Mr. old lahori you are a hindu and pretending to ba a muslim. very sad.
by the way your link is not working.
A few days ago, I was being called a missionary. Now I am being called a hindu.
Cool down: It is amazing you guys need to pigeon hole a person to even interpret.
I was born into a muslim family. I have been to pakistan a few times. I am not a Hindu. I am not a christian. AND I am starting to wonder if I am even a Muslim after reading the existing post of the 'real' muslims on this forum!! I guess I am not a real muslim. Why do muslims have to react in hate? Education and knowledge is not a private domain of any religion, is it? Just because I don't froth at the mouth at christians, hindus, buddhists, sikhs, etc. makes me a less of a muslim? Try the link, it is working now.
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**Mr. old lahori you are a hindu and pretending to ba a muslim. very sad.
by the way your link is not working. **
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cool down one can live without a religious label but not nationality.
Good point Rvikz
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You can hide and deny the truth but can never eliminate it
Old Lahori bhai, welcome Home anyway
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cool down one can live without a religious label but not nationality.
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who asked you to tell?????
old lahori,
I was talking about female infanticide. kill the girl after her birt.
below is vadic proof.
The birth of a girl, grant elsewhere; here, grant a boy" [Atharva Veda]
Taittirya Samhita VI.5.10.3 : " Hence they reject a female child when born, and take up a male."
< Sans. " Tasmat striyam jatam parasyanti ut pumamsam haranti " >
ppl there are agreed directly that they have killed there baby girl after birth and called girls Venda (don’t want) or Podum Pennu (enough of daughters).
check this link http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum9/HTML/000895.html
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cool down what you say if practised by everbody how come population of india is second largest and one of the most dense.
without women this kind of population explosion would not have been possible.
cool down where you get the idea every indian reads veda before doing anything?
men can produce more children per year
women can produce only one child per year.
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I have provided some links that are mostly written by americans, and some by indians. so plz don’t blame me. the author said they mostly tolerated first girl, and sometimes second. he also said, forget about family planning because every couple wants more and more sons. http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/Forum9/HTML/000895.html
a painting showing a Hindu woman throwing her children into the Ganges crocodiles was widely distributed in the West.
many times this issue has been discussed in western media.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/Organizations/healthnet/SAsia/suchana/0225/george.html
notice the above link is education related. (harvard university)
the writer of the article(an american) writes, " The most surprising aspect about female infanticide is that the traditional methods of killing are remarkably similar whether in north, central or south Tamil Nadu. For instance, paddy (rice with its husk) soaked in milk or the poisonous sap of the calotropis plant are used. How could villagers spread over 700 kilometres have possessed the same knowledge in the absence of major migration over these distances? It is unlikely to have been coincidental. Probably, the knowledge has been handed down over several generations.
the american
http://www.warroom.com/femalinfancide.htm
The stark reality is that India today tops the list in illegal abortions and female infanticide in the world.
http://www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html
A study of Tamil Nadu by the Community Service Guild of Madras similarly found that “female infanticide is rampant” in the state, though only among Hindu (rather than Muslim or Christian) families. “Of the 1,250 families covered by the study, 740 had only one girl child and 249 agreed directly that they had done away with the unwanted girl child. More than 213 of the families had more than one male child whereas half the respondents had only one daughter.”
they are proud of their tradition. I don’t know what’s wrong with you to believe.
cool down what are you trying to prove if those people change religen they stop these?
http://www.dawn.com/2001/09/28/local8.htm
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did you notice drs. have denied to tell. it is also forbidden in islam. canada and some other first world countries also have reported this.
the case of india is different. there are thousends of dais who are taking money to kill the baby girl. a reporter said even the most respected man of the village have done this practice.
Dr. said, "If we say killing a small child is murder, they just laugh."
The stark reality is that India today tops the list in illegal abortions and female infanticide in the world.
american socioligists have an eye on them, united nation has created reports for them. many programes are coming on westren media.
You can hide and deny the truth but can never eliminate it
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then how come the fmale to male ratio
is same for pakistan and india? there
are cases of honor killing that does not mean
every parents kills their daughters for pre-marital- sex in pakistan.
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oh my god.
rviks are you talking in your senses???????
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yes cool down iam talking "census"
pakistan:
Sex ratio: at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.96 male(s)/female
total population: 1.05 male(s)/female (2001 est.)
Infant mortality rate: 80.5 deaths/1,000 live births (2001 est.)
india:
Population growth rate: 1.55% (2001 est.)
Birth rate: 24.28 births/1,000 population (2001 est.)
Death rate: 8.74 deaths/1,000 population (2001 est.)
Net migration rate: -0.08 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2001 est.)
Sex ratio: at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.07 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 1.03 male(s)/female
total population: 1.07 male(s)/female (2001 est.)
Infant mortality rate: 63.19 deaths/1,000 live births (2001 est.)
Life expectancy at birth: total population: 62.86 years
male: 62.22 years
female: 63.53 years (2001 est.)
Total fertility rate: 3.04 children born/woman (2001 est.)
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rviks did you ever care the copy rights??? provide your source.
the top 4 countries of female infanticide.
1.. india (muslims and christians are not involved) only among hindus.
2… china
3… taiwan
4… korea.
source: http://advance.byu.edu/bym/1997/97winter/infanticidenews.html
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http://www.indolink.com/Forum/India/messages/22432.html
check above discussion board. Topic ** Hindu Kill Females Before ,During & After Births**
both extreme exist in india . at same time
indian women are much more educated than
women in pakistan and work in all fields.
also more sexual freedom.
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rviks bhai who is taking india and pakistan here???
cool down i am just arguing for fun.