Dear Readers,
Sallaams,
Is there any list of guhnahe sagiras and guhnahe kaberas?
Is there any indication that God would forgive guhnahe kaberas, the same way as guhnahe sageras?
If both kind of sins bear equal chance to be forgiven by God; then why, they are devided into two kinds?
How do they differ and would effect ones HAYAT BADEL MOUT.?
Do you know about this topic ,please comment.
Bye sokoon
Are you talking about Gunah-e-kabeera and Gunah-e-sagheera ?
Re: What is the difference between kunnahe kaberas and kunnahe sageras—Are all -----
The classic work on this topic is the book The Major Sins (Arabic: Al Kabair) by Hafiz al Dhahabi… it is available in english. Here is a summary…
http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/articles/majorsins.html
Yes…
“Say: ‘O my servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah: for Allah forgives all sins: for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.’” (Qur’an 39:53)
In general, you have to repent from major sins, whereas minor sins may be forgiven even without repentance…
“If you shun the great sins which you are forbidden, We will do away with your small sins and cause you to enter an honorable place of entering.” (Qur’an 4:31)
However, anyone who dies upon Al Tawhid, as a non-mushrik, can even have his/her major sins wiped away even without repentance…
“Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases…” (Qur’an 4:48)
Meaning: Someone who dies upon Al Tawhid, as a non-mushrik… whilst the individual is still alive shirk is also forgiven but only if repented from…
Assalam mun ale kum,
So from your explanation today I understood why people - muslims are not bothered for committing any kind of sin.
For them to have a clearance signal from all sins is available.
You kill, you steal,
You do what ever you like, in the hope that I would ask for forgiveness and I would be forgiven, as GOD has forgiven ours elders .
Nice thoughts ,wonderful, why shall not muslims do all bad or even worst thing in the hope of GOD being most merciful.
They forgot GOD is shadeed ul aatab also.
Kunnahe kabera are not attempted in share ignorance, those sins are usually planned one and are not forgiveful ones. GOD does not forgives in general all those acts to which he had PUT IN THE LIST OF harram ,.
i know if the interpretation of different religious aayat, ahadeez are not done, this way none of you would have sokoon e qalb ; for you might think that GOD may not forgive him, that one , her , this one for their khunnahe kabera. You would have not felt that ours are----So it is better forget that GOD is shadeed ul aaqab also.
No! this shadeed ul aqab is for kuffars , book is for us muslims. METTAH METTAH HARAP HARAP AND KARWA KARWS THOU THOU.
Wah wah ke ya sounch hay quon na ZABHA kareen, christians ko, shias kou, and jes per beh bus chaley, quon na marein perveez ko, shoukat kou, moullanas kou.wah bahe wah
Aqal heran hey samaj heran hey. app lougoun per .Bus allah hidayat dey. Humarey tu bus key baath he nahe hey. Allah kher karey.
Wassalam.Sokoon
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Assalam mun ale kum,
So from your explanation today I understood why people - muslims are not bothered for committing any kind of sin.
For them to have a clearance signal from all sins is available.
You kill, you steel,
You do what ever you like, in the hope that I would ask for forgiveness and I would be forgiven, as GOD has forgiven ours elders .
Nice thoughts ,wonderful, why shall not muslims do all bad or even worst thing in the hope of GOD being most merciful.
They forgot GOD is shadeed ul aatab also.
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Stop being so judgemental... who said Muslims have forgotten that Allah is also just and punishes sins as well? You obviously didn't see the words "may be forgiven" in my post... all Muslims should hope and pray for Allah's mercy and forgiveness (you, sokoon, obviously don't want them to do that!!) but at the same time they should fear his punishment. Keep a balance. Like it has been said: If it were that only one person will make it to Paradise, each one of us should hope that we might be that one person. Conversely, if it's said only one person will go to hell, each of us should fear that we might be that one. Balance!
Re: gupguppy
Dear Gupguppy,
Salam urz hey,
Do you know there are houqouq allah and houqouq ebad.
All the sins which are concerned with houqouq allah, for example not praying ,not keeping some rozas etc are under houqouq allah heading. If we ask him for forgiveness ,be hopeful, that inshallah he would forgive. Are you happy now.
But such sins, like killing some one's son, steeling some one's property, hurting some one's heart, deceving some one, back biting etc etc come under other heading concerning other human beings.
Such sins would only be first forgiven by the concerned person; after that person forgives then if you ask forgiveness from God; you can hope for forgiveness;otherwise he(GOD) would not forgive until, the murderer or the thief is forgiven by the person's father, mother and family members of that family or person against whom the sin is committed.
Regarding guhunahe kaberas. It is written that they are guhnahe kabiras due to having difference between these kinds of sins and small sins. Also the punishments are different, and huge for guhnahe kaberas.
For a murderer, for a Zani, for a sharab drinker etc etc, are not committed by chance, due to just mere carelessness.
These sins one plans and takes his time to do. They get enough time to realize that these are guhnahe kaberas and the punishment of these sins is great , they are not going to be forgiven by GOD, as there was time to revert back from doing such sins. So, if some one commits such sin, they are most of the time delibrate., as they decide to do that sin, instead of stopping themselves from that sin. One chooses to commit that sin . So GOD does not forgive.
But, if by chance, some one has been killed some one unintentionally and the family members of that person has forgiven him or they have agreed to take khoun baha, then, now the murderer would pray to GOD for forgiveness and would hope for getting forgiveness.
If our sheikhs bother themselves ,and take pain as being sincere with the muslims around them and regularly explain it in khudbas ,every body would know the right things. But alas. Bye sokoon
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These sins one plans and takes his time to do. They get enough time to realize that these are khunahe kaberas and the punishment of these sins is great , they are not going to be forgiven by GOD, as there was time to revert back from doing such sins. So, if some one commits such sin, they are most of the time delibrate., as they decide to do that sin, instead of stopping themselves from that sin. One chooses to commit that sin . So GOD does not forgive.
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"they are not going to be forgiven by GOD", "So GOD does not forgive"!!??
You sure about that?...
Dear gupguppy,
Do you know why I have choosen this topic.?
It is because every muslim say GOD would forgive if you ask for forgiveness and never do again.
We muslim totally forget that there are HOUQOUQ ALLAH and
HOUQOUQ EBAD.
If we do sin concerning GOD directly (ignoring HOUQOUQ ALLAH) he might forgive , we are not sure of it, but we should hope for it as GOD is Raheem and Kareem
If we commit a sin concerning other people (harming, killing, stealing, hurting heart of some poor person), that is houqouq ul ebad. Then it is written that one must ask for forgiveness from the EBAD , if he/she would forgive then ask with GOD and then hope for forgiveness.
Also if some one kills some one, disgrace some one on large scale--- such as rape etc Then such sins are unforgiven able. Firstly you must ask forgiveness from the person /persons concern , and then either pay KHOUN BAHA for murder or killing or beheading. If EBAD forgives then ask from GOD for forgiveness. In this case if the killing is not delibrate hope for forgiveness otherwise do not forget GOD is SHADEED UL ATAB also. Same is drinking SHARAB etc etc and many more are unforgiven able sins and are called guhna he kaberas.
But I do not know one stream of muslims do not know it or delibrately do not want to believe in it? that there are gonnahe sageras and gonahe kaberas. Bye sokoon
P.S: Oh I just noticed I had already written these things, so sorry to waste your time