Diya, no offence but your arguments are pretty useless.
First gain the knowledge (the proper knowledge) and then talk to Ahmadis...
TO Diya,
I am hoping and praying that you would Inshallah come back on this forum to back your claim of Ahmadis being supported by Jews.
I believe that all these quotes are true. However, bringing one line of quote out of context is no justice. If you 've read the full chapter, you would’ve known where Promised Messiah:as: is coming from. So, I would suggest, don’t waste your time searching for such quotations in an attempt to mislead ‘amatunnaas’ and try reading the full book.
I must also say that above mentioned quotes were written in an attempt to show superiority of Anhuzur:saw: over other prophets and in the defense of Islam and Quran.
Diya,
Just to calm your nerves down, this is a qaseedah that the promise messiah himself wrote in honour of prophet Muhammed (pbuh).
If this is what we believe in, why would we be degrading him ? Does it make sense to you ?
i never understand why ahmadis want to call themselves muslims....
u have a religion, u have a founder, stick to ur own name....
why do u wish to cover urselves and call urselves muslims....
Mughal...are you Shia or Sunni?
what do u mean by the two terms????
can u explain so i can be sure of my answer....
Madhanee, my understanding of it is, that if later prophets come with their own book, they initiate a seperate religion, even if their religion comes from the same God. Muslims dont think of themselves as latter age jews or modern Christians, even though we believe Musa, Isa and Muhammad come from the same Creator.
You believe Ghulam Ahmed was a prophet with a sahifa. doesnt that infact make you a seperate religion, as opposed to for example shia/sunni where we fight over the same book and the same prophet?
Mr. Armughal,
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i never understand why ahmadis want to call themselves muslims....
u have a religion, u have a founder, stick to ur own name....
why do u wish to cover urselves and call urselves muslims....
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becuase I believe in oneness of Allah, All his prophets , All his books , All his Angels and on the day of Resurrection.
Do you have any problem with that?
Mr. Ravage,
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You believe Ghulam Ahmed was a prophet with a sahifa
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What an ignorant statement!
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Madhanee, my understanding of it is, that if later prophets come with their own book, they initiate a seperate religion, even if their religion comes from the same God. Muslims dont think of themselves as latter age jews or modern Christians, even though we believe Musa, Isa and Muhammad come from the same Creator.
You believe Ghulam Ahmed was a prophet with a sahifa. doesnt that infact make you a seperate religion, as opposed to for example shia/sunni where we fight over the same book and the same prophet?
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When you Isa would descend from heaven and you will believe in him, would you start calling yourself christian?
Yeah Mughal…. Do you mean to tell us that you don’t believe in Kalma Tayaba?
I have a suggestion for you, we will call ourselves Muslims, you can call yourself Sunni or Shia. How about that?
Just an observation. I don't recall having read anywhere that Ahmadis have slaughtered any other kinds of muslims in a religious conflict. Doesn't it get them any sawaab from Allah Talah?
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Yeah Mughal…. Do you mean to tell us that you don’t believe in Kalma Tayaba?
I have a suggestion for you, we will call ourselves Muslims, you can call yourself Sunni or Shia. How about that?
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and how did u derive the conclusion that i dont believe in kalma tayaba (i'll spare u the explanation of its meaning)????
anyway, back to the old question, do u know what the two terms mean????
Arvind, not only that, but we have been on the receiving end of slaughters. All in the name of some jackass notion of who the fcok is more righteous. I would rather enjoy a nice cold Labat than worry about who has bigger utensil.
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Mr. Armughal,
becuase I believe in oneness of Allah, All his prophets , All his books , All his Angels and on the day of Resurrection.
Do you have any problem with that?
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yes cuz u believe in all his prophets + a false one....
u believe in all his books (not completely though) and some books authored by a false prophet....
and u believe in all His angels + some teechi meechi angel (correct the name plz) which exists only in the fantasy world of ghulam ahmed....
these do cause some problems u know....
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Arvind, not only that, but we have been on the receiving end of slaughters. All in the name of some jackass notion of who the fcok is more righteous. I would rather enjoy a nice cold Labat than worry about who has bigger utensil.
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i havent seen the idol worshippers in the african jungles slaughtering anyone in the name of religion either....
do u wish to accompany them in heaven (or hell whatever it be)????
hmm again poor tries to poor qadiyanism as right..after 150 years still there is only handful and very very small qadiyanis r there..
and another most important point is qadiyanism was supported by british much at the time of mirza ahmad..reason behind was to cancelled jahad and end muslim spiritual life....if u guys still want o prove ur religion right then go on and post links...wht i can do just smile on ur poor knowledge
....if qadiyanis r right then y they r called as non muslims both locally and internationally
my qeustion to all qadiyanis here plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz plz reply to this question
"Would u like the same death just like mirza ahmad qadiyani"
plz answer it...cuz we all know u coward qadiyanis will not reply to it
Mughal, tell me one thing. First translate your Kalma, and then tell us that it is wrong, and everyone who believes in it is Kafir.
Chalna, answer me this...would you marry a 6 year old girl?
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Mughal, tell me one thing. First translate your Kalma, and then tell us that it is wrong, and everyone who believes in it is Kafir.
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read the kalma, ponder on its meaning and u will know exactly why ahmadis r not muslims....