If you read “Chapter 2 Verse 102”, you will come across a city name “babylon” mentioned. Here i’m not going in translation and tafseer of this particular verse but i’m going to share with you guyz what I discovered today and I believe it still exist and followed by many either intentionally or unintentionally by selling their souls to the evils as described in this verse.
If we read few previous verses from this chapter than we came to know that peoples of that time rather sticking to this divine book, run after all sorts of the occult knowledge, most of which was false and evil. The occult powers attributed the power of Solomon to magic. But Solomon dealth in no arts of evil. It was the powers of evil that pretended to force the laws of nature and the will of God, such a pretence is plainly blasphemy.
Here I was thinking who were the “blasphemers” and the “Madruk/Mad-ruk”?
I came to that the “blasphemers” were actually those peoples who denied “the Book of God”, here it meant not the Quran but the book which the People of the Book had been given viz., the previous Revelations. The argument is that Prophet Muhammad’s Message was similar to Revelations wich they had already received, and if they had looked into their own Books honestly and sincerely, they would have found proofs in them to show that the new Message was tru and from One and Same God. But they ignored their own Books or twisted or distrurbed them according to their own fancies. Worse, they followed something was actually false and mischievous and inspired by the Evil One. Such was the belief in magic and sorcery.
Now refer to “magic and sorcery”. The ancient Eastern Monarchies were strong and enlightened, probably even earlier, as “Ma-ru-tu” or “Madruk / Mad-ruk” was deified hero afterwards worshipped as a god of magic in Babylon.
So do you think the “Madruk / Mad-ruk” is still today worshipped? Check the images below.
I never came across such a site where ‘testimonials’ is written.
A ritual sign of pyramids or ‘one eye god watching us’ or maybe referring to something else.
Still hard to believe? Than what is significant about the Temple of Solomon and who are these so called Knights of the Temple of Solomon?
To read Click Below:
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[Knights_Templar_(Freemasonary)](Knights Templar (Freemasonry) - Wikipedia Lastly there is no dobut in this i.e. The “Holy Qur’an” which reveals such knowledge which is beyond our understandin means yet we have learned this Book in true sense.
aoa,
Here are some of my findings:
In this verse and previous verses, people of the book who despite having
prophecies in their books and manifest signs, didn't believe in the holy
prophet(pbuh). Their behavior is similar to those who worked against
Solomon(as) and attributed sin to the prophet of Allah. Please refer to the
sin of solomon. here is an excerpt from wikipedia
"According to 1 Kings 11:4 Solomon's "wives turned his heart after other gods", their own national deities, to whom Solomon built temples, thus incurring divine anger and retribution in the form of the division of the kingdom after Solomon's death. (1 Kings 11:9-13). 1 Kings 11 describes Solomon's descent into idolatry, ..."
So the enemies of solomon (as) accused him of 'kufar' i.e., turning towards 'other gods' and idolatory and attribute this deviation for the breaking up of his kingdom in two parts during the reign of solomon's son Rehoboam (king of Judah). Quran shuns this accusation and state that actually his enemies comitted kufar. The leader of conspirers Jeroboam who went on to become the king of northern Israelite Kingdom of Israel here is an except from the wikipedia article on Jeroboam
"He erected at Dan and Bethel, the two extremities of his kingdom, "golden calves," which he set up as symbols of God, enjoining the people not any more to go up to worship at Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem, but to bring
their offerings to the shrines he had erected. Thus he became distinguished as the man "who made Israel to sin." This policy was followed by all the succeeding kings of Israel." So he did what he once accused Solomon of.
In essence 'sihr' in the first part of the subject verse referred to falsehood spread by the enemies of hazrat Suleiman (as) against him.
dude, marduk was the leader of gods of the babylonians. i'd posted a pic in your other thread on polytheism. this is a vibrant civilization which flourished in 1700 BC or older for a long time until the persians conquered them and lived off their wealth and agriculture to erect their civilization - persepolis etc. that is a good 1700 years before christianity. 2000 years before any knights of templar bs. quit replacing clear archaelogical evidence with random poppycock from some paranoid websites run by morons.
Yes! When Hazrat Sulaiman a.s. lost his kingdom, great numbers from among mankind and the jinn renegaded and followed their lusts. But, when Almighty Allah restored to Hazrat Sulaiman a.s. his kingdom and the renegade came to follow the Straight Path once again, Hazrat Sulaiman a.s. seized their holy scriptures which he buried underneath his throne. Shortly after, Hazrat Sulaiman a.s. died. In no time, the men and the Jinn uncovered the buried scriptures and said: This was a book revealed by Almighty Allah to Sulaiman a.s. who hide it from us. They took it as their religion and then Allah the Almighty revealed his saying in Chapter 2 verse 101. They followed what the devils gave out, i.e. musical instruments, play and all that blocks the remembrance of Almighty Allah.
In the next verse mentioned in post#1, Harut and Marut also mentioned in it not only were mentioned in Holy Qur’an but also in the Second Epistle of Peter II, 4, and Epistle of Jude, verse 6. Tafsir of Haqqani following Biadhawi and the Tafsir Kabir, the word “angels” as applied to Harut and Marut is figurative, means “good” men of knowledge, science (or wisdom), and power. Harut & Marut lived in Babylon, a very ancient seat of science, especially the science of astronomy. Being good men, Harut and Marut ofcourse dabbled in nothing evil, and their hands were certainly clean of fraud. But knowledge and the arts, if learned by evil men, can be applied to evil uses. The evil ones, besides their fraudulent magic, also learnt a little of this true science and applied it to evil uses. Harut and Marut did not withhold knowledge, yet never taught anyone without plainly warning them of the trial and temptation of knowledge in the hands of evil men. Being men of insight, they also saw the blasphemy that might rise to the lips of the evil ones puffed up with science and warned them against it. Knowledge is indeed a trial or temptation if we are warned, we know its dangers, if God has endowed us with free-will, we must be free to choose betwwn the benefit and the danger.
Among the Jewish traditions in the Midrash (Jewish Tafsirs) was a story of two angels who asked God’s permission to come down to earth but succumbed to temptation, and were hung up by their feet at Babylon for punishment. Such stories about sinning angels who were cast down to punishment were believed in by early Christians also.
**2 Peter 2:4 **For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
**Jud 1:6 **And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
There may be an allusion to such legends here, but much spiritualised, and we are expressely warned against dabbing in magic. What the evil ones learnt from Harut and Marut that they turned to evil. When mixed with fraud and deception, it appeared as charms and spells and love potions. They did nothing but cause discord between the sexes. But ofcourse their power was limited to the extent to which God permitted the evil to work, for His Grace protected all who sought His guidance and repented and returned to Him. But apart from the harm that these false pretenders might do to others, the chief harm wich they did was their own souls. They sold themselves into slavery to the Evil One, as is shown in the allegory of Goethe’s Faust. That allegory dealt with the individual soul. Here the tragedy is shwon to occur not only to individuals but to whole groups of people, for example, the People of the Book. Indeed the story might be extended indefinitely.
The main thing is that one can sell his soul to devil only for evil purpose. Example of Goethe’s Faust link is there. Why would one sell his soul to devil? Because the Evil i.e. Shaitan is trying by all possible way to astray the creation of One and Only ture God coming back toward Him.
again, you are trying to look at mesopotamian religion from within islam. when islam came like 3000 years later. -__- there is no shaitan waitaan in marduk's pantheon.
Oky lets say u r write maybe the book I have (written in 1970) might misspelled marduk as madruk or “Ma-ru-tu”. What about the image second image (boths hands making a sign or symbol)? Hence, I’m not interesting in knowing that but for the sake of the argument I asked.
Peace queer,
Whether you believe me or not its upto you. I like the way you type bcoz I found you write in deep. I have nothing against you and when I said may God protect you from Shaitan’s evil. I referred ‘God’ as ‘my God’, although If i written it the way I write for any muslim, maybe you felt offended b’coz you don’t believe what I believe.
Oky lets say u r write maybe the book I have (written in 1970) might misspelled marduk as madruk or "Ma-ru-tu". What about the image second image (boths hands making a sign or symbol)? Hence, I'm not interesting in knowing that but for the sake of the argument I asked. :)
You're talking about a silly pyramid handsign thrown at a music concert. Most likely some Rockafella Artist.
What do you have to say about the Hamsa in Muslim countries? LOL
Whether you believe me or not its upto you. I like the way you type bcoz I found you write in deep. I have nothing against you and when I said may God protect you from Shaitan's evil. I referred 'God' as 'my God', although If i written it the way I write for any muslim, maybe you felt offended b'coz you don't believe what I believe.
look pal, here is my issue. you want info on a certain ancient religion, but you want to see it as a subset of islam, which came 3000 years later. it is fine if you can at least present any form of physical evidence to back this claim, but you have nothing.
look pal, here is my issue. you want info on a certain ancient religion, but you want to see it as a subset of islam, which came 3000 years later. it is fine if you can at least present any form of physical evidence to back this claim, but you have nothing.
physical evidence - i think theres online pictures of prayer postures which are very similar to the islamic prayer. of course we look at previous nations with the islamic lens since we believe previous messengers (more Messenger then we know about, in detail) were sent by God, our God
there are no pictures of prayer poses of babylonians/akkadians/sumerians. these civilizations vanished long before cameras were invented.
even if they prayed in the exact same way as muslims today do (even muslims pray differently but whatever), this would mean more that islam was a modified version of the earlier religion of the region. not vice versa. this is a time-causal universe.
if we take the three closest in time, and very closely related religions - judaism, christianity and islam - no one's going to mistake a jewish guy praying with a christian at mass with a muslim's salaat.
^i think someone posted pictures of stone idols in prayer posture, i couldnt date them, nor do i rely on their authenticity but the jewish similarity is with us today
do the vast majority of christians and jews of the world pray like this? i doubt it. maybe the qubtis and some localized jewish sects do.
they were shown to pray like that, its not something which has come in of late (they hear) but something which is being shed from the original (they disobey)
^ Sure ... Listen to that video ... Christian one ...he says ..
"There are many aspects to the service that I recognise and many that are strange to me especially the prostration in prayer that stems back to the earliest Christian practice that was later adopted by Islam ..."
Furthermore when one thinks of the piety aspect regarding these sects that engage in this ancient form of worship they are undoubtedly revered by others. History has been unkind to them ... but they are not the ones who wee unkind throughout history.
Message was similar to Revelations wich they had already received, and if they had looked into their own Books honestly and sincerely, they would have found proofs in them to show that the new Message was tru and from One and Same God. But they ignored their own Books or twisted or distrurbed them according to their own fancies. Worse, they followed something was actually false and mischievous and inspired by the Evil One. Such was the belief in magic and sorcery.
& Peace,