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Is that all you people know how to do? Hate? Any idiot can hate. Hate does not accomplish anything. You salafis will continue to hate, and those dictators will continue to rule you with an iron fist. Savages like yourself deserve such dictators.
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I only hate for the sake of Allah : )
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Hating and loving for the sake of Allah is from the core of Iman in Him.
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Since when did hating evil and falsehood become wrong?
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It’s not wrong, it’s useless. It hasn’t accomplished anything. These dictators become stronger as a result of feeble minded people who hate.
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Not really, everything goes in phases, what is strong today will become weak tommorow. The history of the world is the battle between good and evil.
Nothing is useless. Everything you do bears fruit, be it for good or for evil.
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One evil falls, then another evil takes it place. There has been no good in the Islamic world for a long time. But hatred is useless. Actually doing something is worth while.
Like I said before, it doesn’t take much to hate. It takes a lot to do something about it though.
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hating isn’t wrong, it’s an opinion that anyone’s entitled to. What’s wrong is killing other people because their beliefs differ from yours. They are just as entitled to their beliefs as you are. This simple concept is what wahabbis and other fundamentalists fail to understand.
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I swear i responded to this thread. The term Salafite was first used in the International Politics Magazine Foriegn Affairs after Sept 11th. It is basically another term to describe a Wahabi. The thing is 99% of the Sunni world are Salafites or Wahabis without their knowledge. Politically it is used to define the terrorist groups under Islam. Hamas is described as Wahabi, Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, GIA in Algeria et al. Any terrorist group on the planet according to the media is salafite or wahabi.
It is basically used to describe any form of political Islam to discredit it. I mean the Muslim Brotherhood is supposedly “salafite and wahabi” 
Re: What is salafite ?
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Assalaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakatu
Wa Ba’ad:
Alhamdulillaahi Rabbil-Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu Alaa Rasoolillaah, Wa 'ala Alihe wa As-habihe, ajma’een.
I bear witness that there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah in His oneness without giving Him any partners affirming it in tawheed and I bear witness that Muhammed is His Slave and His Messenger, the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, his family and his Companions.
All Praise is due to Allah Who sent His Messenger with the Guidance and the True Religion so as to make it prevail over all (false) religions and enough is the evidence from Allah.
Belief of the Saved Sect which is aided till the establishment of the Hour is Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah, and that is belief in Allah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, Resurrection after Death and belief in the Divine Decree, both the good and bad of it.
Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah do not deviate from those things which have been brought by the Messengers, for that is the straight path, the path of those whom Allah has bestowed His favour upon from among the Prophets, the Truthful, the Martyrs and the Righteous.
I will begin with a verse from the Quraan which applies very much in this thread. The charges from fellow Muslims about Ahluls-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah in this thread is far from the truth and I ask Allaah to forgive my brothers for things they said and had no knowledge of. Ameen.
Allaah says:
Verily, you are those who have disputed about that of which you have knowledge. Why do you then dispute concerning that which you have no knowledge? It is Allâh Who knows, and you know not. Aali Imran - 3:66
When it is the case that Salafiyyah is the understanding of the Book and the Sunnah upon the understanding of the Salaf of the Ummah and the Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wasallam) stated, “And this Ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of them in the Hellfire but one”. They said, which one is this O Messenger of Allaah? He replied, “They are those who are upon what I and my companions are upon today” (Tirmidhee, no.2643) – and when it is also the case that the splitting occurred by their abandoning the correct understanding, then Salafiyyah is but the way forward for unity and is not splitting or sectarianism. As Shaikh Salih al-Fawzaan said,** “As-Salafiyyah (i.e. the Salafis) is the Saved Sect, and they are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah. It is not a hizb (party) from amongst the various parties, those who which are called “parties” today … Hence Salafiyyah is a group of people (i.e. the Salafis) upon the madhhab of the Salaf, upon what the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his companions were upon and it is not a hizb from amongst the contemporary groups present today.” **(Cassette: “at-Tahdheer min al-Bid’ah” second cassette, delivered as a lecture in Hawtah Sadeer, 1416H).
Abu Haneefah (d. 150H) (rahimahullaah) said: “Adhere to the athar (narration) and the tareeqah (way) of the Salaf (Pious Predecessors) and beware of newly invented matters for all of it is innovation.” (Reported by As-Suyootee in Sawn al Mantaq wal-Kalaam p.32)
Based upon this “as-Salafiyyah” is distinguished from all the various Islamic factions due to their ascription to what guarantees for them the correct and true Islaam, which is adherence to what the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his companions were upon, as occurs in the authentic hadeeths.
Imaam Muslim brings in his Muqaddimah to his Saheeh (p.16) the saying of Abdullaah ibn al-Mubaarak – which he would say in front of all the people, “Abandon the hadeeths of Amr bin Thaabit, for he used to abuse the Salaf”.
Shaikh Saalih al-Fawzaan said, ***“And how can making one’s madhhab that of the Salaf be an innovation, an astray innovation?! And how can it be an innovation when it is but the following of the madhhab of the Salaf, and following their madhhab is obligatory by the Book and the Sunnah, and truth and guidance?!” ***(al-Bayaan p. 156).
Hence, ascribing oneself to the Salaf, which is but Salafiyyah is not an innovation, rather it is obligatory upon every Muslim to subscribe to the manhaj and aqidah of the Salaf. It can be said,** “If labelling with Salafiyyah is an innovation, then so is labelling with Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah”.** And the objective behind using the term “Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah” is not hidden or unknown. Unfortunately, Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa’ah is no longer sufficient to distinguish between the people of falsehood and the people of truth.
We follow The Prophet (saw) and those whom he (saw) said to follow since they are the best generations. These people are the Salaf Us Salih and the saved sect. Al-Firqatun-Naajiyah (the Saved-Sect) is that which adheres to the manhaj (methodology) of Allaah’s Messenger (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) during his lifetime, and to the minhaaj of his Companions after him: and that is the Noble Qur‘aan which Allaah revealed to His Messenger, and which he explained to his Companions in the authentic Sunnah - ordering the Muslims to cling to these two, saying,*** “I am leaving amongst you two things, you will never go astray as long as you cling to them: the Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. They will not separate from each other, until you meet me at the Lake.”***
The Saved-Sect revive the Sunnah of Allaah’s Messenger (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) in their* ’ibaadah* (worship), sulook (behaviour) and in their lives, thus becoming strangers amongst the people - as Allaah’s Messenger (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) mentioned in his saying, “Islaam started as something strange and will return as something strange as it began, so Toobaa (a tree in Paradise) is for the Strangers.” In another narration, “ … so Toobaa is for the Strangers. Those who correct and put right what the people have corrupted.”
[see Methodology of the Saved Sect By Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Jameel Zaynoo ]
Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said:
“Indeed the people of the Sunnah do not follow anyone (unconditionally) other than the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam); who does not speak from desires, rather it is nothing less than Revelation sent down to him. So it is obligatory to affirm all that he informs, and to obey all that he commands. This status is not given to anyone else from this Ummah. Rather, everyone’s statement can be taken or left except for that of the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam). So whoever sets up an individual other than the Messenger of Allaah(sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam); such that the one who loves and agrees with him is reckoned to be from Ahlus-Sunnah wal-Jamaa‘ah, and the one who differs with him is reckoned to be from the people of innovations and sectarianism - as happens with those groups who follow certain Imaams of kalaam (rhetorical speech) - then the person doing so is from the people of innovation, deviation and sectarianism.” [Majmoo‘ul Fataawaa (3/346-347).]
In conclusion, I ask those of you who doubt all that has been said to research it further. There is volumes of books written on this subject and thus I cannot possibly bring forth every single proof, quote, ayah, or hadith.
I ask Allaah Ta 'Ala to guide us to the straight path, bestow His mercy upon us, grant us Jannah, and grant us all success. Ameen.
Your brother in Islaam,
Abu Abdullah Yusuf Ali Ibn Bernier Al-Kanadi
The Calgary Islamic Homepage
http://www.calgaryislam.com
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Like I’ve told you before dear Lajo… Don’t hate the player, hate the game.
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Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Wal - Alhamdulillaahi Rabbil-Aalameen was-Salaatu was-Salaamu Alaa Rasoolillaah, Wa 'ala Alihe wa As-habihe, ajma’een.
Wa Ba’ad:
Assalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakatu
One last point for those individuals who have mentioned “Wahabbism” but do not know that which they speak of:
Taken from: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi)
Modern usage [of the word “Salafi”]
The Salafi Manhaj was always around the Arab region but did not have much strength until it was revived by Al-Mujadid Sheikh-ul-Islam, Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab (1703–1792). His Alliance with Muhammad bin Saud gave the Salafi Manhaj dominance in the Arab region which is now present day Saudi Arabia. The discovery of oil in Saudi Arabia in the late 1930’s gave a giant boost to the economy. With its Ravenous the House of Saud helped propagate the teachings of the Salaf throughout the world.
Many claim that the offical religion of Saudi Arabia is **Wahabbi](Wahhabism - Wikipedia). This is absolutely false for the simple fact that Wahhabism does not exist.** Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab himself admited that he was a devout follower of the Salafi Manhaj. He studied the works of Ibn Taymiya, Ibn al-Qayyim, Ibn Kathir, Al-Tahawi, Al-Nawawi, Al-Bukhari and of the likes. All known for their devoutness in Manhaj Al-Salafiyyah. He did not come with anything new but with the same basic Creed that the rest of the past scholars had.
King Abdul Aziz (Ibn Saud) of Saudi arabia said regarding the claim of being labeled Wahhabies:
“They have labeled us with the term ‘Wahhabiyoon’, and they have named our madhhab as ‘Wahhabi’ considering it as a specific madhhab, and this is a wicked mistake, appearing from the false propaganda which has been spread by the people of gossip. We are not the people of a new madhhab or new aqeedah. Our aqeedah is the aqeedah of the rightly guided predecessors the (Sahaba, Taba’een and taba Tabe’een). We respect the four Imaams and we make no distinction between Imam Malik, Shafi, Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, and Abu Hanifa, all of them are deeply respected in our view.
This aqeedah is the one, that was re-established by Sheikh-ul-Islam, Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab, and the one that he called towards. This is our aqeedah and it is the structured aqeedah upon the tawheed of Allah, free from defect, far removed from any innovation.”
Wahhabi was the label given to the Salafis of Saudi Arabia, and now the world, by Sufis and Shia in which their Bidah (innovation) were shown to them.
There is not one known incident of which any Imam of the Salaf of Ahl Al-Sunna Wal-Jamaa ever calling himself a Wahhabi or the aqeedah of which he follows Wahhabi. But all were true in calling to the teaching of the Salaf, Sahaba, Taba’een and taba Tabe’een whom are the followers of Ahl Al-Sunna Wal-Jamaa.
May Allaah manifest the truth to those who slander Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdul-Wahhab (rahimallah) or any Muslim and may He forgive those who take one of His names (Al-Wahab) and using it in a derogatory way. Ameen.
Abu Abdullah Yusuf Ali Ibn Bernier Al-Kanadi
The Calgary Islamic Homepage
http://www.calgaryislam.com
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Just one correction my friend: Imam Hussain (RA) was not a Shia.
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Yes he was. Yazid was Sunni.