Some people say it came from jannat. Some say it is a meteorite.
What do you think it is?
What is its significance?
Why should we show our respect to this stone by kissing it?
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i believe it was sent down from jannat...we respect it because it was held and put in place by our Prophet [saws]. there was a dispute among Arab clans as to who got the jonor to put in the walls of Ka'ba while it was rebuilt. all the clan chiefs started fighting. our prophet [saws] suggested that they put the stone in on to a sheet...ever clan chief held the sheet and brought it close to the wall then MoHammad [saws] lifted it and put in place. that's how a big fight was averted.
this was before the prophethood of Huzoor [saws]. every one in those times respected MoHammad [saws] for histrustworthiness, truthfulness and his upright character. they called him 'Ameen'.
one hIndu guy once said to me...you worship stones too! i expleined to him that we do NOT worsjip it, we just show our respect because it was once held by our Prophet [saws.]
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If this stone really is from jannat then it means jannat physically exists in this 3D universe. That jannat is not from any extra-dimensional space. And that we can reach jannat, may be in a spaceship.
It is a weird aqeedah in my view.
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If this stone really is from jannat then it means jannat physically exists in this 3D universe. That jannat is not from any extra-dimensional space. And that we can reach jannat, may be in a spaceship.
It is a weird aqeedah in my view.
hmmm...would you lemme know when you get there in a spaceship! thank you. :D
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If this stone really is from jannat then it means jannat physically exists in this 3D universe. That jannat is not from any extra-dimensional space. And that we can reach jannat, may be in a spaceship.
It is a weird aqeedah in my view.
Unless jannat is in a different realm, so better pack some slipstream pods as well!
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You mean Hajr e Aswad!
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Good thread. made me think. I will do some research and add later.
Re: What is Hijr e Aswad?
If this stone really is from jannat then it means jannat physically exists in this 3D universe. That jannat is not from any extra-dimensional space. And that we can reach jannat, may be in a spaceship.
It is a weird aqeedah in my view.
Peace khoji
Well we believe Sayyiduna Adam (AS) came from Jannah don't we? ... and whether the rock came from Jannah or is a meteorite ... It is still unique ... To me it is precious as precious stones are precious ... It is a marwan ... Many of these are mentioned in the Old Testament ... They were used to establish temples ... We can call them altar stones or pillars .... It has no other value except that RasoolAllah (SAW) showed it to be used as part of our rites and rituals ... And kissing it is Sunnah ... This does not even mean it is respected ... It is simply a device that takes and absorbs our sins ... Just as when we do sujud the ground is not special that we touch it with our foreheads.
It could be both a meteorite and from Jannah ... We believe Isa (AS) is in Jannah ... And there are at least 7 layers of Jannah ... So let's park that question I'm sure we will find out on the Day of Judgment.
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Peace khoji
Well we believe Sayyiduna Adam (AS) came from Jannah don't we? ... and whether the rock came from Jannah or is a meteorite ... It is still unique ... To me it is precious as precious stones are precious ... It is a marwan ... Many of these are mentioned in the Old Testament ... They were used to establish temples ... We can call them altar stones or pillars .... It has no other value except that RasoolAllah (SAW) showed it to be used as part of our rites and rituals ... And kissing it is Sunnah ... This does not even mean it is respected ... It is simply a device that takes and absorbs our sins ... Just as when we do sujud the ground is not special that we touch it with our foreheads.
It could be both a meteorite and from Jannah ... We believe Isa (AS) is in Jannah ... And there are at least 7 layers of Jannah ... So let's park that question I'm sure we will find out on the Day of Judgment.
Well, for that matter, even Riadul Jannah (The piece of land between mimbur of Masjid-e-Nabawi and roza of prophet) is said to be part of paradise.
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Religion is all about beliefs. (So is science and many other branches of knowledge in many ways)
How difficult is to get that?
This stone is not worshiped.
It is respected.
There is no obligation to kiss it or touch it to be a pious Muslim.
There is no belief that it will cure all wordly and outwordly problems for being present at a specific place.
People use all their efforts and physical power to get to it so they can kiss it or touch it but that is all because they have extra respect for it for one reason or other.
Those who do not fight to get to it are not sinners IMHO.
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Well, for that matter, even Riadul Jannah (The piece of land between mimbur of Masjid-e-Nabawi and roza of prophet) is said to be part of paradise.
I was going to mention this too, but I changed my mind ... I wasn't too sure whether it is said RiyadhulJannah is part of Jannah or that it will be taken to Jannah to become part of it in future. If the latter is the case then strictly it is not from Jannah, whereas the others are from Jannah. Jannah is not a metaphorical place - that is what I was trying to stress.
But it does not mean it is or is not part of this universe either ... that is mere assumption and drawing conclusions from too simplistic understandings.