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Fayz maybe thats something we'll know after we're done here?
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^ That's right. It's an unknown hence the question.
That's what makes the 'aqeeda' so wonderful.
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Alright I will post my random thoughts on the topic later. Frankly I have thought about it before, but I think its one of those things humans were meant to know until we ask Allah, and maybe not able to comprehend until we stand before Him.
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Guess what Fayz 
1- The mistake was done by Adam:as: because it is how it was supposed to be, but there is no Saza for bachaY… If bachay can understand how to obey their Lord, they will get the same jannah..
2- Forbidden Fruit story is 110% true because it is in the Qura’n.
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nobody knows for sure. Such questions are best left on the shelf.
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This is just my own analogy and has no Quranic or Hadith value to it…
You can discard it…
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Fayz be a good boy and indicate which God do you mean. The muslim God, the christian God, the Jewish God, the hindu God or the the Norse God. and yes...they are all different. Apparently some peole think there is only God or interpretation of God. Do clarify..
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Are you sure about this? Isnt God all knowing by definition?
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yes Fayz is incorrect. There are verses in the Qur’an on the same topic where God narrates the tale of people who were offered the truth didn’t take it and then God proclaims He knew all along they wouldn’t.
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A real good teacher will test you and quiz you, but if they're a real good teacher, they will know the outcome.
But you still have to take the exam anyway, right?
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I agree with MQ, such questions are beyond the scope of this world.
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Alhamdollillah, Well said Lajawab. Man has got trpped in the Zeenat of this world
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All the issues that we have touched are in Surat Al'Bakara. Adam was sent to earth as a punishment for disobeying. Later he repented and god forgave him, however, humans are to say on the planet till a 'muqarar waqt'.
PA, god has said that in reply to the prophet... who repeatedly gave god's message to Kuffar. If God had already decided who is a muslim and who is not then the prophet didn't need to communicate god's message to the non muslims in the first place. To me, that's a waste of time.
PCG, the quran is an open book exam and it's perfectly ok to ask why the exam and what are teacher's motives. Afterall you are taking the exam (no doubts about teacher's qualifications)
PD, I mentioned in my first post that I was interested in the islamic perspective. I am also interested in what your god has to say..I'm sure it would be very substantial. :-)