Can anyone tell me what is considered the islamic wedding? I heard that the weddings people do in pakistan are often based on some hindu traditions. Is this true? Do i post here or in culture?
yes, when Pak was part of sub-continent, lots of traditions were imported in several 'celebrations', 'occasions'. only nikah, and 'rukhsati' are part of 'Islamic wedding' (even rukhsati is not meant the way it is done these days). all other traditions are useless, coming from different cultures... for Muslims in India and Pakistan most of the traditions are adopted/imported from Hindu culture.
We oughta be Changez like, don't we?
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Originally posted by Changez_like:
**yes, when Pak was part of sub-continent, lots of traditions were imported in several 'celebrations', 'occasions'. only nikah, and 'rukhsati' are part of 'Islamic wedding' (even rukhsati is not meant the way it is done these days). all other traditions are useless, coming from different cultures... for Muslims in India and Pakistan most of the traditions are adopted/imported from Hindu culture.
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we practice because we are all hindus earlier
Salaam sister Munni,
An Islaamic wedding can be defined as one which is in accordance with the Sunnah and not too extavagant as the Prophet (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) disliked extravagance.
Also free mixing is mot permitted in a Islaamic wedding as it is not allowed in any gathering involving both genders.
And a marriage ceremony in Islaam consists of two events, the Nikkaah followed by the Waleemah.
Wassalaam
"No leaf falls except that He knows of it, and no rain drop forms except that He has willed it."
ahhhhhh
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forgot to include ‘Waleemah’. Thanks bro Hasnain
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. The rukshati is usually part of ‘nikah’, but not the way we do it.
We oughta be Changez like, don’t we?
[This message has been edited by Changez_like (edited October 03, 2001).]
Oye Pashtuns weren't Hindu's ..our weddings are different as well.
Actually Zakk they were, *were being the keyword* and before that they were buddhists, and before that fire-worshippers, and before that followers of zarathustra, i could go on, but i think you get the message.
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Originally posted by Girl from Quraysh:
Actually Zakk they were, *were being the keyword* and before that they were buddhists, and before that fire-worshippers, and before that followers of zarathustra, i could go on, but i think you get the message.
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The original Afghans are a race of probably Jewish or Arab extraction; and they together with a tribe of Indian origin with which they have long been blended still distinguish themselves as the true Afghans, or since the rise of Ahmad Shah Durrani as Durranis, and class all non-Durrani Pushto speakers as Opra.
Thus, the different tribes of Afghans/Pathans have different claims, racially as divergent as the Semitics and the Aryans, Greeks and the Turks, Mongols and the Caucasians. However, leaving aside the claims, there is another aspect of this issue which has great substance, weight and research behind it. This aspect is the conclusions arrived at recently by the Western scholars after a careful study of the historical and cultural developments of the region and its people. Based on the intormation obtained from latest excavations and the data collected in a specific manner, modern scholars have expressed certain views on the origin of the Afghans/Pathans which cannot be brushed aside lightly or treated flippantly. They aver that the origin of the Afghan/Pathan is something different.
They are of the view that there might have been some settlements of the Jews in the area in 800 B.C. or so; similarly, some remnants of the Aryans might have been left in the inaccessible mountains in days of yore; and that there did exist some Greek and Iranian colonies here and there. But from 1st century B.C. to 5th century A.D., during a span of 600 years, this area witnessed three immigrations from Central Asia of such gigantic magnitude --- those of the Sakas, Kushans, Huns and Gujjars --- that everything was swept before them, overwhelmed by them and submerged in them. In short, hardly any previous group whether Aryan, Jewish, Greek or Iranian could retain its identity.
*On this subject the views of the Russian scholar Yu V. Gankovsky *
*"My opinion is that the formation of the union of largely East-Iranian tribes which became the initial ethnic stratum of the Pashtun ethnogenesis dates from the middle of the first millennium AD and is connected with the dissolution of the Epthalite (White Huns) confederacy. In the areas north of the Hindu Kush some of the tribes of this confederacy participated in the formation of the nationalities who inhabit Middle Asia today, and, among other tribes, in the formation of the Turkmen and Uzbek nationalities. This is attested, among other things, in the records of genonimy which indicate that among the Turkmen and Uzbeks (as well as among the Lokai) there occurs the ethnonym Abdal descending from the name of an Epthalite tribal union (Abdals, Abdel). South of the Hindu Kush, another part of the Epthalite tribes lost their privileged status as the military stronghold of the ruling dynasty and was ousted into the thinly peopled areas of the Sulaiman mountains, areas where there were not enough water supplies and grazing grounds. There they became a tribal union which formed the basis of the Pashtun ethnogenesis.
"Of the contribution of the Epthalites (White Huns) to the ethnogenesis of the Pashtuns we find evidence in the ethnonym of the largest of the Pashtun tribe unions, the Abdali (Durrani after 1747) associated with the ethnic name of the Epthalites -- Abdal. The Siah-posh, the Kafirs of the Hindu Kush, called all Pashtuns by a general name of Abdal still at sing of the 19th century.
"It is not impossible that certain Kushan-Tokharian elements also took the formation of the Pashtun ethnic community. In this connection it is worthwhile to note the fact cited by G. Morgenstierne: among the Ormuri the Pashtuns are known under the ethnic names 'kas' i.e., Kushan. A number of Pakhtun tribes belong to the Ormuri group. They are Afridis, Orakzais, Khattaks, Khugiani, etc." *
This treatise of Prof. Gankovsky forcefully puts forward the view that Afghans-Pakhtuns are the descendants of Epthalite (White Huns) and Kushans
So are they or aren't they??
“na maiN* momin vich masiitaa*N, na maiN* muusaa, na fir'aun!”
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[This message has been edited by Ali_R (edited October 05, 2001).]
I think my comment about pashtuns has knocked this thread off topic people !!.
I thought it would be a bit interesting to know what their origin. Since my forefathers were Persians and Afghans I would be very happy to know more about them. GfQ can you help plz.
“na maiN* momin vich masiitaa*N, na maiN* muusaa, na fir'aun!”
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