That’s true Hadeel but since hte original post that I quoted makes a distinction…between a girl in America brought up with Pakistani values VERSUS the “average” girl living in Pakistan. hence the distinction.
Well i don’t agree with the original post ( the quotes ) and i don’t think a distinction should be made. But then again, thats just how some people are and you can’t change their wrong views about a particular concept no matter how much you try.
Why would women born and raised abroad bother about what an average Pakistani girl is? And the way this point is raised here makes it look like these women want to be known as or be compared to average Pakistani girls. Are you ashamed of being identified by the values of your country of birth?
No, we’re not ashamed at all. We’re actually very proud of who we are. I have never wanted to emulate or be like anyone else aside from what my parents have asked me to be.
However, when people tell us we are trying to be like them or should be like them or can never compare to them and blah blah blah…it pisses us off.
What do you mean by Average Pakistani girl. You want to say that average Pakistani girls are no more average.
If today’s Pakistani Average girls are more aware of their rights and they are no more slave of old pathetic rules of our society then it does not mean that they are losing their morals and they are no more Average Pakistani girls. We are still Average Pakistani girl with more awareness.
As i am AVERAGE Pakistani girl i would like to answer few of your points Ashi
Now after giving explanations for every point i think i have cleared my point that if today’s girl knows her rights and obligation then it does not mean that she is more impressed with western lifestyle. We as a Pakistani AVERAGE girls know whats right and whats wrong because we are educated and ambitious girls. We know what obligations we have as a Pakistani Average girl
So you mean to say that the Average Pakistani girl is NOW more aware of her rights and has now become more open while keeping herself in the values and limits.
Yes yes yes Ashi i am saying Average Pakistani girl is NOW more aware of her rights and has now become more open while keeping herself in the values and limits. :coolios:
I don’t live in pakistan,still all of those points are expected here aswell.
And I dare to say,after having those personal experiences,that we get trained for marriage worse.
I had to learn cooking,being the only girl,and if my mother didn’t like my food,she’d throw it away.
And honestly,I don’t mind.
Girls here are brought up very strict,I don’t have one girl in my family who doesn’t wear hijab and takes care of what she does and only acts with her parents approval.
To say,that girls in the west are worse than in the east is just something really dumb.
As they say “haathon ki paanch ungliyan ek jaisi nehi hoti”.
You have to apply that view to us girls aswell.
And why shouldn’t we get pissed off at guys who only marry in Pakistan?
It is rather unfair,not to consider girls living abroad.
An anverage pakistani girl in Pakistan does not exist,there are all types of girls in Pakistan and in the West.
Stop exaggerating.
I feel a lot of people are taking average, specifically in the sense of a typical Pakistani girl. And taken in that sense yes all those stereotypes are attached with that caricature. Aunties still go around looking for such girls for their sons, all the time complaining that they have become so very rare.
However, they are still around. The problem is that these aunties want well-groomed, shareef as well as educated and modern, average Pakistani girls, but they forget that with education comes independence and awareness of one’s rights.
I think the image of an average Pakistani girl has changed somewhat over the past decade (in the middle classes), but yes those very-typical girls are still around.
You guys aren’t helping the stereotype that Pakistani girls are oppressed. At least what I’m understanding from this thread is that an average Pakistani girl is good-for-nothing.
I’m nothing more than an average girl myself and I don’t conform to any of the specifications you guys have laid out in this thread (even when I was living in Pakistan). If I were to make similar generalisations about Pakistani girls born outside of Pakistan (myself included) it wouldn’t go down very well with many of ye.
BBC I dont’ see anybody implying that they are “less-than-nothing”…in factt he only one who has given any description at all is Ashy and that post talks about how girls are treated unfairly and how they’re not expected to have any wants/needs/desires.
There’s two stereotypes in this thread, 1: They’re oppressed or 2: They’re super shareef. I disagree with both. I feel Pakistani girls (living in Pakistan) are actually far more “advanced” than girls like me who’ve spent a bulk of their lives abroad. There’s nothing wrong with that, I’m glad they’ve come a long way in terms of freedom of choice.
Ashy2010, let me guess, you were not born nor bred in Pakistan and the last time you visited Pak was perhaps a decade ago, right? The criteria you’ve given is that of an oppressed girl, not an average Pakistan girl. There’s a big difference. Let’s compare an Afghani girl (living in Afghanistan) to a Pakistani girl… which one’s actually oppressed? … yeah.