what is a real freedom

the point in saying that you have been after something which was absolutely absurd,
ridiculous, that your whole life has been foolish? Why Say it, why confess it? Just keep quiet. Go on holding on to the top, remain there till you die, but never tell the secret to anybody because that will prove that your whole life has been just a life of utter mediocrity, unintelligence. If you want to be a musician or a poet, be a musician, be a poet. And this is a second kind of freedom: you will be at least happy that you are doing your own thing, not somebody else’s thing. And this is my experience: that to be doing one’s own thing is the greatest joy in the world –
whatsoever that thing is appreciated by the society or not, valued by the society or not, whether it can be sold in the marketplace as a commodity or not. If it is the thing that you passionately desire, intensely desire, then do it; and whatsoever the cost, sacrifice yourself for it. This is the second kind of freedom: freedom for. This is a positive approach, better than the first. The first type of person becomes a politician. The second type of person becomes a poet, a painter, an artist. The first freedom is negative, the second freedom is positive – but remember, they are aspects of the same thing.
Even the first type of freedom at least pretends that there is some goal. Even the politician says, ”We are fighting to be free – from this kind of society, this kind of structure, this kind of politics. We are fighting to be free from this society just to create another society. We are fighting for some goal, some value, some utopia, some ideology.” Even he has to pretend that, because the negative cannot exist alone; at least the positive has to be talked about. So communism talks about a classless society,
utopia, where everything will be beautiful, where paradise will have descended on the earth. It will take infinity, but that goal has to be given. Otherwise people will not fight for a negative freedom. So the negative implies the positive; and vice versa, the positive implies the negative. When you want to become a painter and your parents are not agreeing and your society thinks it is foolish, you have to fight with them. So freedom for will have something to do with freedom from; they both are together.
The real freedom is the third kind, the transcendental freedom. What is that? It is neither from nor for; it is simply freedom. It is just freedom. That is moksha: just freedom. Neither against anybody – it is not a reaction; nor to create some future – there is no goal. One simply enjoys being oneself, for its own sake; it is an end unto itself.

this thread is dedicated to pyaari jii :blush:

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aao bacho suno kahanee
...
aik tha raja, aur aik thii rani...

dono marge... khatam kahaneee :D

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kiya samaj aie app kooo :p

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P J i can read ur mind ..P J :p

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:smack:
phir chote bhai ne mere pathe pe kuch likh diya hai…

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yeh pathee kiya hotai hai :stuck_out_tongue:

or yeh freedom kiya hotii hai :cb:

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ohhkaay :halo:

tnx 4 sharin.

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**Pagal, your question is, ”We must be free. Yet where does freedom end and selfishness begin?” The first two are selfish, ego-oriented. The first, freedom from, is very egoistic because it has to fight against. It is violent; it has to be very egoistic. It has to disobey, it has to destroy, it has to conspire against the status quo. It needs great ego. The politician is nothing but pure ego...

ub too samaj aie nah :p
**

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chak de phateeeeeeee!!! :nuch:

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And that freedom is love, and that freedom is God. That freedom is nirvana, that freedom is truth.In that freedom you exist in God, God exists in you. Then nothing wrong can ever happen through you. Then your life is virtue. Then your very breathing is meditation. Then you walk and it is poetry. Then you sit silently and it is dance. Then you are a blessing to the world. You are blessed.

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P Ji hamarai GOal achieve hoo giyaaa ..:cb:

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ham bolai muhabbit ki zuban :p
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