We often praise the accomplishments of immigrant Pakistanis in the west, but i wonder what would be the equivalent act be in Pakistan? A religious one Christian/Sikh/hindu President? An ethnic one? A Baloch, Mohajir, Northern areas or Pashtun Prime Minister?
Re: What would theWhat is a Pakistani equivalent to Baroness Warsi?
i think it would have to be a religious minority not an ethnic one, given that we've had people from smaller provinces as presidents/prime ministers/military dictators.
A hindu senior judge, such as Rana Bhagwandas?
Pakistan has had a Pashtun president but if there was a a candidate suitable enough then I dont see why one would not become a PM. There has even been a Balochi PM and at the moment we have a Seraiki one.
The real disadvantaged ethnic groups in Pakistan would be the ones from the Northern Areas, Balochis, Chitralis, Kohistanis but even then their could never be a Pakistani equivalent to Baroness Warsi because she is of immigrant stock whilst those ethnic groups and religious groups mentionned are Pakistani and have been from the start which has only been 60 years.
Having a token ethnic or religious minority in a position of power means nothing especially when they have more in common with the native British in the case of Baroness Warsi than the group she claims to represent.
She is often spoken about as the most powerful Muslim women in Britain and in a way the media portrays her as thats the way Muslim women should be. She is a good candidate for them because she ticks two boxes - ethnic and female.....all she needs tobe is a Lesbian and her profile will have ticked a third.
Re: What would theWhat is a Pakistani equivalent to Baroness Warsi?
What a twisted idea, comparing immigrants with local minorities.
In any case, we have had ethnic and religious minorities doing well in all spheres of life... politics, academia, sports, business, and professions like doctors, lawyers, military etc.
We never had a Christians or Hindu prime minister for example, but given the size of the minorities in Pakistan, it would be unlikely for them to get there. It is not discrimination and just a mechanical outcome of 'democracy', say for example we wouldn't have a Pakistani origin prime minister in UK in this century.
What a twisted idea, comparing immigrants with local minorities.
In any case, we have had ethnic and religious minorities doing well in all spheres of life... politics, academia, sports, business, and professions like doctors, lawyers, military etc.
We never had a Christians or Hindu prime minister for example, but given the size of the minorities in Pakistan, it would be unlikely for them to get there. It is not discrimination and just a mechanical outcome of 'democracy', say for example we wouldn't have a Pakistani origin prime minister in UK in this century.
actually by law Christian or Hindus can't become PM or President in Pakistan
Pakistan has had a Pashtun president but if there was a a candidate suitable enough then I dont see why one would not become a PM. There has even been a Balochi PM and at the moment we have a Seraiki one.
The real disadvantaged ethnic groups in Pakistan would be the ones from the Northern Areas, Balochis, Chitralis, Kohistanis but even then their could never be a Pakistani equivalent to Baroness Warsi because she is of immigrant stock whilst those ethnic groups and religious groups mentionned are Pakistani and have been from the start which has only been 60 years.
*Having a token ethnic or religious minority in a position of power means nothing especially when they have more in common with the native British in the case of Baroness Warsi than the group she claims to represent. *
She is often spoken about as the most powerful Muslim women in Britain and in a way the media portrays her as thats the way Muslim women should be. She is a good candidate for them because she ticks two boxes - ethnic and female.....all she needs tobe is a Lesbian and her profile will have ticked a third.
How is she just a token gov minister + not there on merit and what exactly is wrong with her in your opinon?
There is nothing wrong with her as such but she represents her own self and not the muslim community. She uses the muslim/islam card. She could not even defend Islam when Nick Griffin stated on TV that Islam encourages rape and second class treatment of women yet she fought vehemently to make herself and the Conservatives look good.
They are al token people who are there fore statistical purposes. She does not seem to be very "Asian" and by most accounts is not married to one.
I do not know how her policies or her being in a powerful position would help Muslims?
I didn’t see her on tv trying to debate with Nick Griffin but imo the likelihood is that altho she’s obviously Muslim she’s not 100% practising (like most) and not knowledgable enough about Islam to be able to refute a lot of the criticism that is directed towards our religion..
She wore shalwar khameez to her first cabinet meeting (how many Asian male MPs turn up to Parliament in their traditional dress either). To me she comes across as being quite comfortable with her Asian roots and she definitely is married to an an Asian Muslim man (not that Asian bit should even matter) tho there was a lot of controversy surrounding what happened in regards to his ex-wife not being able to speak English and apparently not even realising she had been divorced:
Baroness Warsi outside 10 Downing Street the day of her first cabinet meeting..
