~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

[AQ]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

Um something like Essay writing, or First person to solve a Rubic's Cube within 2 seconds, or a 800m nonstop race, or developing the best software application,.

And what about having a DRAW. Where peeople just put their names in (For free) and whoever gets their name drawn out wins.

In all these situations, in my opinion it should be ok rite?

All forms are ok .. except about DRAWN OUT... What is the nature of DRAW? On what conditions, this happens... There must be some pre-set criteria (a tie on a competition or individuals' credentials were first taken into consideration etc.) otherwise it may not be categorized as Islamically legal as well....

[K_Khan]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

I will give the half of it to a waitress..

[Light_Bearer]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

It's business pure and simple. As you take risk in any business you invest your money in lottery, if I win I will give as much as I can to the charity. But I will have no problems using that money on myself as well.

BTW for charity you don't need to win a lottery, I am sure lot of us are doing anyway.

[cricketplaya]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

Gambling and taking part in lottery have unfortunately become prevalent practices within the Muslim community. Some Muslims have become so accustomed to gambling that they don’t even realize that they are committing a grave sin, and that their earnings are unlawful (haram).

Allah Most High says:

“They ask you concerning wine and gambling. Say in them there is great sin and some benefit for men. The sin is greater than the benefit.” (Surah al-Baqarah, V. 219)

The above verse did not clearly prohibit gambling, thus many Companions (Allah be pleased with them), understanding the tone of discountenance, abstained from consuming alcohol and engaging in gambling. However, some were still involved in these two acts until Allah Most High revealed the following verse:

“O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination of Satan’s handwork: Abstain from such (abomination), that you may prosper. Satan’s plan is (but) to excite enmity and hatred between you, with intoxicants and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of Allah, and from prayer: Will you not then abstain?” (Surah al-Ma’idah, V. 90-91)

The prohibition of intoxicants and gambling is clearly and openly mentioned in the above verse. It has been declared unlawful with great emphasis, as many scholars of Qur’anic exegesis point out.

Sayyiduna Abu Hurayra (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “…Whosoever says to another: “come lets gamble” should give in charity (m: regardless of whether one actually took part in gambling or otherwise, thus merely calling another person towards gambling is blameworthy).” (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4579)

Imam Abu Bakr al-Jassas (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“There is no difference of opinion between the scholars regarding the prohibition of gambling.” (Ahkam al-Qur’an, 1/329)

The harms of gambling and lottery are open and clear to those who reflect. It is a means of creating monopolies and economic unbalance in the society, something which Islam rejects. It’s a form of backdoor taxation, and leads to many other evils in the society.

Therefore, it is totally unlawful to take part in any form of gambling including the national lottery. Similarly, it will be unlawful to derive benefit from and use any money that was received through the lottery fund, for (firstly) the money is filthy and impure, and (secondly) it is a form of supporting the lottery system.

The ruling on money gained from playing the lottery is similar to that of all other unlawfully acquired money, in that it should be given in charity to poor people without the intention of receiving reward, as explained in many earlier posts.

And Allah knows best

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari
Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK

[TLK]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

though some ppl wanna use it to pay their zakats :(

No one even mentioned paying zakaat with that money... .

Look above your quote

[AQ]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

hmmm... I missed that part.. apologies...
my POV is very clear on the issue though.

[ssingh]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

In the name of GOD, i wholeheartedly accept it.

[TLK]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

In the name of GOD, i wholeheartedly accept it.

Good answer, and this is what the Thread Starter was expecting, what woould you do.

Lot of people, including myself, posted what the islamic ruling is.

But that was not the question.

I just hope that it never happens to me cause I would be in some serious dilemma if it ever happened

[Monk]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

I won't buy it in the first place.

I don't buy lottery either. But after earthquack in kashmir I started buying it And kept buying it for little while.
If I would have won back then I would have some serious work for troubled people from earthquack areas.
Now I don't buy it.

[Captain1]

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to avoid the second sin, I will just give it to a charity work without the intention of getting any sawaab.

That is I mean too, but with a charity which generates more for more ppl too, I didn't mean to suggest that I'd expect any sawab from that donation.

[psyah]

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perfect!

its like the interest u unintentionally gain on ur savings account... take it out and give to the poor w/o expecting any reward 4 it as it is haram money... though some ppl wanna use it to pay their zakats :(

Peace sister pinks

Just a slight caution there !!! It has been established by Muslim leaders that interest money should be given away in charity to eliminate the burden of it. The burden however, is only partially driven away. The dust of rib'ah stays in ours hands. Here is the reason why.

It is because we have circulated money that has been created from thin air, away from us, but put back into the system of wealth an amount that does not really exist. The only way to rid this completely and I do not recommend this, save to have yourself arrested, is to withdraw the amount you get on interest in cash and burn the money!. That way the system will not acknowledge that it exists and the circulation of wealth will remain natural.

Otherwise which is probably the safest option is to continue giving away the interest as sadaqah but you are correct the zakat should not be given from this amount.

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As for the lottery ... In the hypothetical situation where a person is non-Muslim and gambles, becomes Muslim in the mean time and wins the lottery. The only option is to do something charitable with it.

[Seminole]

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An economics lesson is in order for those who think interest paid on a savings account has been created from thin air. Banks don't give away money for the heck of it. That interest has been earned. There are more ways to earn money than to punch a clock and perform manual labor. The global econcomies and banking systems will always work with this interest based system no matter how many adhrerents to 7th century economics populate the world.

[Captain1]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

An economics lesson is in order for those who think interest paid on a savings account has been created from thin air. Banks don't give away money for the heck of it. That interest has been earned. There are more ways to earn money than to punch a clock and perform manual labor.

I agree that there are more ways to earn money then by digging holes/building roads. "Interest" is most of the time a 'fixed' money (@ some rate) given out by banks regardless of what they earned i.e. 45 dollars on 1000 dollars whether bank actually earned 200 dollars or 2 dollars on that 1000 dollars. Islam promotes profit & loss sharing, you can say 2% of profit sharing but then this 2% should be on ACTUAL profit earned.

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The global econcomies and banking systems will always work with this interest based system no matter how many adhrerents to 7th century economics populate the world.
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Actually most of people think that economy/system was frozen in 7th century.

[psyah]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

An economics lesson is in order for those who think interest paid on a savings account has been created from thin air. Banks don't give away money for the heck of it. That interest has been earned. There are more ways to earn money than to punch a clock and perform manual labor. The global econcomies and banking systems will always work with this interest based system no matter how many adhrerents to 7th century economics populate the world.

Peace Seminole

Please enlighten me! Have you ever paid for something on installements? Were you charged interest? Or do you have an overdraft facility? Are you charged interest on the amount in red? Money is being created from thin air, it is my way of saying that the system obliges people to pay more for something that is depreciating in value just because they want to pay for it in bits. If you think that I am wrong that money is not being created, then please also account for the taxes paid on money exchange and customs and a whole variety of other banking business systems. The banks probably make just as much money from investments as they do from their systematic activities.

[psyah]

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I agree that there are more ways to earn money then by digging holes/building roads. "Interest" is most of the time a 'fixed' money (@ some rate) given out by banks regardless of what they earned i.e. 45 dollars on 1000 dollars whether bank actually earned 200 dollars or 2 dollars on that 1000 dollars. Islam promotes profit & loss sharing, you can say 2% of profit sharing but then this 2% should be on ACTUAL profit earned.

Actually most of people think that economy/system was frozen in 7th century.

Peace Captain1

I am not talking about economics I am talking about Islamics. Money lending in Islam has never been a means for business. It has been a means for charity and that is what should remain even in this enlightened day of 21st century economics.

[Orpheus]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

I don't buy lottery either. But after earthquack in kashmir I started buying it And kept buying it for little while. If I would have won back then I would have some serious work for troubled people from earthquack areas. Now I don't buy it.

err, whaaaaaat?!

[Captain1]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

It is because we have circulated money that has been created from thin air, away from us, but put back into the system of wealth an amount that does not really exist.

Not true, the system is putting money which really exists, it could've been true if "State bank" (the one responsible for printing/controlling flow of currentcy) is the one handing out the interest but other banks usually invest in other ventures and make money, of which they hand out a very small part to "account holders"... so money is not actually coming out of thin air.

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The only way to rid this completely and I do not recommend this, save to have yourself arrested, is to withdraw the amount you get on interest in cash and burn the money!. That way the system will not acknowledge that it exists and the circulation of wealth will remain natural.
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If you believe in "burning" the money then you shouldn't really be opening an account that would bear interest because "burning" money is crime per my knowledge in most of the countries (if not all).

Can you show a hadith/verse telling us about "dust of interest" as you suggest?

[psyah]

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@Captain1

Not true, the system is putting money which really exists, it could’ve been true if “State bank” (the one responsible for printing/controlling flow of currentcy) is the one handing out the interest but other banks usually invest in other ventures and make money, of which they hand out a very small part to “account holders”… so money is not actually coming out of thin air.

If you believe in “burning” the money then you shouldn’t really be opening an account that would bear interest because “burning” money is crime per my knowledge in most of the countries (if not all).

Can you show a hadith/verse telling us about “dust of interest” as you suggest?

Peace Captain1

Interest that is put in to the account which has been made by the investments of the banks is irrelevant. The relevant part of it to the account holder is whether the person who has the money resting in the bank has:

1. Given permission for the money to be invested
2. Carried the risk that the investment comes with
3. Is getting the full the return on the investment of the money from the banks

If no to all three then the money is typically making more money as far as the account holder is concerned. This form of money should not be taken. I agree that it is not the same as charging interest such a loan repayment, etc.

I’m not an expert in this, I have just put together some information in my daily walks of life, if you can present to me a viable and non-exploiting solution then I will accept.

For the hadith (understand it how you may):
Sunan of Abu-Dawood Hadith 3325 Narrated byAbuHurayrah The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A time is certainly coming to mankind when only the receiver of usury will remain, and if he does not receive it, some of its vapour will reach him. Ibn Isa said: Some of its dust will reach him.

Here is an interest’ing article … mind the pun

truthusa.org

[deedawar]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

The question stated, You already bought it. Thus its already established that its wrong to BUY it, the question is what to do AFTER.

Thats the answer this thread is trying to reach at.

Wrong assumption. So any answer will be wrong.

Are you forcing people to buy it?

The thread is started on ridiculous assumption.

[tweety_pie]

Re: ~! What if you won 50 million dollars?

i wud b over the moon, since i cud save my house 4rm reposessing my house b4 tehy tak in about 2 weeks time. i wud only use teh money i need 4 that and give away teh rest to the needy:)