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Your ‘thought’ became action when you wrote the post #17.
Hitler’s crime were beyond being a mass murderer. Now back to topic shall we? 
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Once again you don’t understand, pal. 
anyway take away his murders and he is just another right winger who wanted a country for “his kind of people”. 
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and if death wasn't a concern, Hitler would be just another person, not a mass murderer. vut is praablam?
good point!
Bhishma could choose time of his death.
no death = no choosing time :D
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If you have the choice of living forever would you? Also, would the concept of God be relevant if there was no death?
Peace Shamraz Khan
I was given the choice of living forever ... so were you ... we both said ... "yes"
That's why we are here on this Earth ... the price for eternal life
Yes, and the concept of God would be absolutely relevant ... For He Created us and He would be Sustaining us forever ...
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what do you mean by choice?
do you mean to say, if in this hypothetical situation, I would have option not to live and die?
Concept of God will also be relevant in after life when there will be no death eventually.
If the world did not have concept of death, I am sure the dynamics of life must have been different. I can not fathom presence of evils in such a case, unless, there was some other ways of accountability. Such as lifting of people to heavens without them being dead for punishment on their wrong doings. God knows.
Amazing how taking out just death from the cycle of life in this world, messes up the whole belief system.
Peace The Jinx
I can't see that to be accurate ... If there was no death then there would still be life ... and we can't live without God either ... Remember death is a transition of life through domains .... it is not the end of life ...
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Personally, if I could freeze my life at age of 25 (no aging :D) and everything around me (friends/family) stays the way its now I probably wouldn't mind staying alive forever...:)
Peace Shamraz Khan
It is said in our faith that all Jannatis will be frozen in age about 33 years ... So it seems you are tapping in to a deep need that your soul is emitting, no new children will be born but everyone lives forever ...
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If there was no death then all the scientists and inventors and whole mankind in general would be more genius and wiser and improving every single day. We would have colonized the adjacent heavenly bodies by now and would have discovered other sources of energy and food.
Plus if there was no death then I am sure that birth control laws would be very very strict.
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If there was no death then all the scientists and inventors and whole mankind in general would be more genius and wiser and improving every single day. We would have colonized the adjacent heavenly bodies by now and would have discovered other sources of energy and food.
Plus if there was no death then I am sure that birth control laws would be very very strict.
If there was no death - then food would be eaten for pleasure only ... as it would be in Jannah ... It is amazing how everything Jannah offers is simply by eliminating "death" - Because Jannah is a large expanse - the poorest Jannati will have a dominion equal in wealth to this whole earth ... which points to the idea that you suggest - without death we would without fear travel the universe ... for pleasure and intellectual pursuit ... Coming back to the main question would God be relevant? - Yes ... because each time we discover something pleasurable - we would thank God ...
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So if there was no death it would practically mean we would be living in a type of declassified Jannat condition ... The problem in that is both good and evil people will be sharing eternity with each other ... That could get quite annoying ... unless you move very far away from people you don't get on with ...
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economical survival, social system, marriage, divorce, love, hate, pain, grief, everything else will still be there - so I am not sure how you are relating no-death society with jannah.
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And once again what you did not get so far that murder is not the only crime on this earth (in general) and not the only crime Hitler committed. No need to compare him with anyone else, that is just a tangential debate you are going in to.
Evil people will also live on this earth and neither they would die nor their victims of crimes ‘other than’ murder, if there is no death.
Very simple facts and concepts have to be explained to you…as usual. 
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If you have the choice of living forever would you? Also, would the concept of God be relevant if there was no death?
Deepak Chopra has a very interesting take on this. Without death there is suffering, because its unnatural. Cancer for example, is the aggregation of cells that cannot die when they should.
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yes simple facts and concepts about your idea of what that world would be like. but interesting how much verbosity the hint generated. good show as always.
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You do realize you changed your sentence and even if not deliberate, it still did not help you.
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economical survival, social system, marriage, divorce, love, hate, pain, grief, everything else will still be there - so I am not sure how you are relating no-death society with jannah.
Well I'm not making a one to one relationship ... in the points above .... yes .. perhaps if you consider such a lasting life to be the case in pleasure then in order for it to work out it would need other things as well as death to be stopped as well.
What you have described would actually continue in Jahannum ... which is another form of permalife ... albeit many deaths ... with anguish, hate, pain, etc ...
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khan bhai phir to 01 ft jga b crore ki hoti. bs hr bnda apni jga khra rehta q k hilnay k liey space e nei honi thi.
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khan bhai phir to 01 ft jga b crore ki hoti. bs hr bnda apni jga khra rehta q k hilnay k liey space e nei honi thi.
lol
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What you have described would actually continue in Jahannum ... which is another form of permalife ... albeit many deaths ... with anguish, hate, pain, etc ...
kabhi jannat, kabhi jahnnam
are bhai, jannat and jahannam are way more than just absence of death.
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kabhi jannat, kabhi jahnnam
are bhai, jannat and jahannam are way more than just absence of death.
Yes ... But that does not negate what I said ...
Going back to the original question not having death or seeking eternal life does not change our view of God ... It shouldn't change it ... The question supposes that our relationship with God is only because of the afterlife ... But when in the afterlife what about then?
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If there was no death - then food would be eaten for pleasure only ... as it would be in Jannah ... It is amazing how everything Jannah offers is simply by eliminating "death" - Because Jannah is a large expanse - the poorest Jannati will have a dominion equal in wealth to this whole earth ... which points to the idea that you suggest - without death we would without fear travel the universe ... for pleasure and intellectual pursuit ... Coming back to the main question would God be relevant? - Yes ... because each time we discover something pleasurable - we would thank God ...
But in that case wouldn't our existence itself be meaningless? I mean think about it...the material concept of values, money, gold, and other worldly possessions have value because of scarcity+ human greed. So, w/o death those things would becoming meaningless b/c those thing would no longer be necessary for existence.