What have you done for the betterment of Pakistan?
Have you contributed anything in the development of Pakistan?
Re: What have you done for Pakistan?
I was once more usefull to Pakistan when i was over there… now i can only try twice as hard to be the best Faris i can be for my people my faith my nation and my country! 
What have you done for the betterment of Pakistan? Have you contributed anything in the development of Pakistan?
With the way Pakistan is, the best way to support the country is to live abroad and send money to family back home.
There isnt very much anyone can contribute by living there, unless your ready for a lot of stress and a lot of hassle.
Re: What have you done for Pakistan?
^ LAME.
That's the escapist way.
Re: What have you done for Pakistan?
^Ditto.
With the way Pakistan is, the best way to support the country is to live abroad and send money to family back home. There isnt very much anyone can contribute by living there, unless your ready for a lot of stress and a lot of hassle.
You can support NGO of your choice providing education to poor, providing water/cleanliness in backward/far-flung areas, you can setup 'grants/award' account at engineering/medical colleges to reward students of poor families etc.
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Want to do a lot for Pakistan. In fact would like to move there and share my knowledge and experience but not till I have freedom to practice my faith and have a peaceful life for my kids.
^ LAME.
That's the escapist way.
You have better ideas?
With the way Pakistan is, the best way to support the country is to live abroad and send money to family back home. There isnt very much anyone can contribute by living there, unless your ready for a lot of stress and a lot of hassle.
Surely if you are sending money to Pakistan it is a big service to the country. However if God has gifted you with skills to generate business and employment that can be the best service. Give people work and respectable income... they will themselves take care of their children education and health.
This country is facing an acute problem of brain drain, we need our best brains to stay here and generate work...!!!
Re: What have you done for Pakistan?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT COMPLAINT .
^ LAME.
That's the escapist way.
No thats the reality... Your justb eing naive.
I have multiple examples of people who tried to invest in Pakistan and help, only to be burned.
Imagine tomorrow we expats stopped sending money home. What would happen? You know how much the country depends of remittance.
The best thing to do is stay in the US or where ever, and send money to those back home.
Thats not to say that you cant help on the ground, but like I said. Be prepared for a huge hassle and a huge of amount of stress.
Surely if you are sending money to Pakistan it is a big service to the country. However if God has gifted you with skills to generate business and employment that can be the best service. Give people work and respectable income... they will themselves take care of their children education and health.
This country is facing an acute problem of brain drain, we need our best brains to stay here and generate work...!!!
Yaar, I know so many people who have tried to put their skills to use. The problem is ground reality.
There are so many hurdles in the way of investment both seen and unseen etc, that its almost counter productive.
With the money I make here, I can support far more people then I ever could over there. I send them to school, send them money to eat and get by. How could I possibly afford it if I lived in Pakistan?
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No thats the reality... Your justb eing naive.
I have multiple examples of people who tried to invest in Pakistan and help, only to be burned.
Imagine tomorrow we expats stopped sending money home. What would happen? You know how much the country depends of remittance.
The best thing to do is stay in the US or where ever, and send money to those back home.
Thats not to say that you cant help on the ground, but like I said. Be prepared for a huge hassle and a huge of amount of stress.
Don't say it's the best option if you really want to do something for the country... although it's a noble/good option.
You can do somethings more than sending charity to the country... even if you opt to live abroad:
1) Buy a vacation house in Pakistan. It will boost the construction industry which will help generate employment here.
2) Keep your money in Pakistani banks in the country. If you fear devaluation of local currency you can always open accounts in your desirable currency. Pakistani banks are reliable and in the 63 years of Pakistan's existence not a single depositor has lost money in Pakistani banking system... something which countries like Britain and USA can not claim. Your deposits will be channelized in productive sectors in the country which will help generate work in Pakistan. If you calculate the profits you could have earned by keeping your deposits in Pak Rupee in Pakistan in last 10 years it would cover the devaluation many times over... due to high interest rate being offered in Pakistan...
3) Invest your money in equities in Pakistan. There are several very reliable companies with good long term prospects... Engro/ICI/OGDC/MCB/ and many other companies in the long run will perform very well... with a domestic market of 170 million people your money has a lot of potential for growth if invested in the right companies in the long run.
Think beyond charity when you think about Pakistan... the impression you carry is a little exaggerated when you talk about business failures in Pakistan. There are a lot of success stories of expatriate Pakistanis doing excellent business in Pakistan... Sir Pervaiz's Bestway growth in Pakistan with UBL and cement was phenomenal... much more than he could have imagined in Britain. A lot of failures are also due to lack of managerial skills of expatriates who are doing some middle management jobs and try something big in Pakistan without having the managerial and financial capacity to do the same. Pakistan offers some of the best business opportunities in the world.
There are more than 200 multinationals working in Pakistan from ICI, CocaCola, Lever Brothers to Toyota ... the success ratio of these multinationals is almost 100 percent. If these foreign investors could make windfall profits on their investments with mostly Pakistani hired management... there must be some short comings on the part of expatriate Pakistanis also for not having a lot of success stories... eventually blaming the country for their failures.
Yaar, I know so many people who have tried to put their skills to use. The problem is ground reality. There are so many hurdles in the way of investment both seen and unseen etc, that its almost counter productive.
With the money I make here, I can support far more people then I ever could over there. I send them to school, send them money to eat and get by. How could I possibly afford it if I lived in Pakistan?
Pakistan is what it is because of our parents and grandparents. They either did horrible things or kept quiet as other did horrible things to the country. Its not like the piece of land is cursed and is the root of all evil! We have a responsibility to try and fix what our parents damaged.
The problems in Pakistan are not financial. They are ethical and moral issues facing us which only better education (not schooling). We cannot just throw a few dollars in and absolve ourselves of any more responsibility.
When you want to cure a disease, you do not fight the symptoms but the causes. The symptoms are financial distress and poverty. The causes are lack of education, respect and appreciation for human life.
I wonder how the situation in the country would improve with all of us claiming that the country is not good enough for us to live in. There were PEOPLE who damaged the country and it is only PEOPLE who can repair that damage.
I wonder if we'd like someone else to adopt us if our father was unable to provide us with all the luxuries of life we want, and maybe send a few dollars to the 'biological father' for him to sustain himself.
With the way Pakistan is, the best way to support the country is to live abroad and send money to family back home. There isnt very much anyone can contribute by living there, unless your ready for a lot of stress and a lot of hassle.
I agree.
Don't say it's the best option if you really want to do something for the country... although it's a noble/good option.
You can do somethings more than sending charity to the country... even if you opt to live abroad:
1) Buy a vacation house in Pakistan. It will boost the construction industry which will help generate employment here.
2) Keep your money in Pakistani banks in the country. If you fear devaluation of local currency you can always open accounts in your desirable currency. Pakistani banks are reliable and in the 63 years of Pakistan's existence not a single depositor has lost money in Pakistani banking system... something which countries like Britain and USA can not claim. Your deposits will be channelized in productive sectors in the country which will help generate work in Pakistan. If you calculate the profits you could have earned by keeping your deposits in Pak Rupee in Pakistan in last 10 years it would cover the devaluation many times over... due to high interest rate being offered in Pakistan...
3) Invest your money in equities in Pakistan. There are several very reliable companies with good long term prospects... Engro/ICI/OGDC/MCB/ and many other companies in the long run will perform very well... with a domestic market of 170 million people your money has a lot of potential for growth if invested in the right companies in the long run.
Think beyond charity when you think about Pakistan... the impression you carry is a little exaggerated when you talk about business failures in Pakistan. There are a lot of success stories of expatriate Pakistanis doing excellent business in Pakistan... Sir Pervaiz's Bestway growth in Pakistan with UBL and cement was phenomenal... much more than he could have imagined in Britain. A lot of failures are also due to lack of managerial skills of expatriates who are doing some middle management jobs and try something big in Pakistan without having the managerial and financial capacity to do the same. Pakistan offers some of the best business opportunities in the world.
There are more than 200 multinationals working in Pakistan from ICI, CocaCola, Lever Brothers to Toyota ... the success ratio of these multinationals is almost 100 percent. If these foreign investors could make windfall profits on their investments with mostly Pakistani hired management... there must be some short comings on the part of expatriate Pakistanis also for not having a lot of success stories... eventually blaming the country for their failures.
Buying a house in Pak has its advantages and disadvantages...
First of is the security situation. crime has sky rocketed in recent years. There is hardly a person left in Pak that doesnt have a story to tell.
Secondly, is that really the best way to spend nearly 100 Thousand dollars or more (which incidently was about the price of fully built house in Pindi back in 2004 I believe)? Imagine how many families you could support with that much money!
Plus, buying property requires a degree of responsibility over the property, which ex pats in Particular may not be able to meet.
There are options within Pakistan of course, no doubt. But the examples you cite are all things I can do from outside Pak. As far as trying to make a substantial contribution on the ground, you know aswell as I the constraints we face.
Pakistan is what it is because of our parents and grandparents. They either did horrible things or kept quiet as other did horrible things to the country. Its not like the piece of land is cursed and is the root of all evil! We have a responsibility to try and fix what our parents damaged.
The problems in Pakistan are not financial. They are ethical and moral issues facing us which only better education (not schooling). We cannot just throw a few dollars in and absolve ourselves of any more responsibility.
When you want to cure a disease, you do not fight the symptoms but the causes. The symptoms are financial distress and poverty. The causes are lack of education, respect and appreciation for human life.
I wonder how the situation in the country would improve with all of us claiming that the country is not good enough for us to live in. There were PEOPLE who damaged the country and it is only PEOPLE who can repair that damage.
I wonder if we'd like someone else to adopt us if our father was unable to provide us with all the luxuries of life we want, and maybe send a few dollars to the 'biological father' for him to sustain himself.
I agree with the sentiment. But actually following up on it is the difficult part.
I have considered making some sort of invesment in Pak at some point, although im not sure in what.
But suffice it to say, currently the atmosphere is really not very conducive.
If however education is the key as you say, then im better of spending my money on sending some poor kid to a decent private school in Pakistan.
What have you done for the betterment of Pakistan? Have you contributed anything in the development of Pakistan?
It's good to see non-Pakistanis thiking about betterment of Pakistan :p
I agree with the sentiment. But actually following up on it is the difficult part.
I have considered making some sort of invesment in Pak at some point, although im not sure in what.
But suffice it to say, currently the atmosphere is really not very conducive.
If however education is the key as you say, then im better of spending my money on sending some poor kid to a decent private school in Pakistan.
Our ancestors did take the easy paths, and see where we are.
It would be a great start if you do contribute to education in Pakistan.