What does this Ayah mean?

Surah Baqra Ayah 62

إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَٱلَّذِينَ هَادُواْ وَٱلنَّصَـٰرَىٰ وَٱلصَّـٰبِـِٔينَ مَنۡ ءَامَنَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأَخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صَـٰلِحً۬ا فَلَهُمۡ أَجۡرُهُمۡ عِندَ رَبِّهِمۡ وَلَا خَوۡفٌ عَلَيۡہِمۡ وَلَا هُمۡ يَحۡزَنُونَ

2:62

Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

جو کوئی مسلمان اور یہودی اور نصرانی اورصابئی الله اور قیامت کے دن پر ایمان لائے اور اچھے کام بھی کرے تو ان کا اجر ان کے رب کے ہاں موجود ہے اور ان پر نہ کچھ خوف ہو گا اور نہ وہ غمگین ہوں گے

Does it mean that if non-Muslims do good deeds (even though they don’t believe in Prophet Muhammed as Last Messenger) will be rewarded for their good deeds?

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I think any good deed from any human will be rewarded.

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This does not mean that any person if he does good deeds will be rewarded in Hereafter.

It means any Non-Muslim whether he was Jew, Christian or Star worshipper (its very common now a day even in Muslims) if he reverts to Islam then he does good deeds will be rewarded in Qayamah.

Prophet Mohamamd SAW said, if any Jew or Christian dies without having faith in me as a final messenger, he will not enter paradise.

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Look at the verse before it:

[5:68] Say: O followers of the Book! you follow no good till you keep up the Taurat and the Injeel and that which is revealed to you from your Lord; and surely that which has been revealed to you from your Lord shall make many of them increase in inordinacy and unbelief; grieve not therefore for the unbelieving people.

An the ones after it:

[5:72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust.

[5:73] Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one Allah, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve.

Thus verse 5:69 could only speak of those ahlul kitab who kept up the true and original teachings of their religion . Jews these days are more like a race than a religion. However there is a small group who believe in 1 God, pray, fast etc. Similarly there are Christians who reject trinity. And Allah (swt) says:

[99:7-8] Then shall anyone who has done an atom’s weight of good, see it!
And anyone who has done an atom’s weight of evil, shall see it.

A very good book to read on this if you are interested: http://www.al-islam.org/religiouspluralism/

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Do we know if this Ayat is Nasikh or Mansookh? Just because an Ayat is in Quran does not mean that it is still valid.

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yeh kaisay hu sakta hai ayah mansookh hu? la haulaah wala quwat

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agar aap yeh kehtay hain keh yeh ayat or orthers not valid then app muslim nahin hu saktay

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Bhai sahab, Nasikh/Mansookh is a proper ilm of Tafseer-ul_quran ..

Baray loug keh gaye hain ke jis baat ka pata naa ho oos main bolay matee.

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aap ku bataaun keh tammam quran is valid till end of world agar aap es per shaq kertay hain tu aap tu muslim hee nahin rahtay.
tlk kahin aap hindu tu nahin hain? aap mind nah kerain

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I'm not a scholar, but to me it always meant that this verse speaks about jews, christians & sabians who lived before Muhammad (saw)

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:smack:

abay bhai, please go and ask your imam sahab about nasikh and mansookh ..

every ayat of Quran is nasikh in qirat, but not every ayat is nasikh in Hukm .. ‘dont go near namaz when you are intoxicated’ does not mean that you can drink but just dont do namaz at that time. Drinking alcohol got banned much after this ayat was revealed. It means that this Ayat is nasikh in qirat, but not in hukm anymore.

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aap theek hain jis nay bhi achay amal kiyay us ko acha ajar milay gha aur jis nay buray kaam kiya us ku bura khaw wo eisay, yahoodi etc hoon

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aap nay bilkul sahee kaha

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Thanks TLK and Bigboi. I got my answer.

This clearly means that GEO TV is manipulating the ayah to their 'aman ki aasha' type of ideology. Check out their promo during Ramadan trasmission where they show this ayaah and then show masjid, gurdwara, temple and church. What an ordinary Muslim will get from it??

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Brother, its not mansookh but misunderstood. Read my reply above.

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:salam2:

Plz read below:

Latest researches have revelated a small remanant of a religious community numbering about 2,000 souls in Lower Iraq, near Basra. In arabic they are called ‘Subbi’ (plural, Subba). They are also called Sabians and Nasoraeans, or Mandaeans, or Chiristians of St. John. They claim to be Gnostics or Knowers of the Great Life. They dress in white, and believe in frequent immersions in water. Their Book Ginza is in a dialect of Aramaic. They have theories of Darkness and Light as in Zoroastrianism. They use the name Yardan (Jordan) for any river. They live in peace and harmony among their Muslims neighbours. They resemble the 'Sabi-un’mentioned in the Qur’an, but are nor probably identical with them.

The pseudo-Sobians of Harran, who attracted the attention of Khalifa Mamun Al-Rashid in A.D. 830 by their long hair and peculiar dress, probably adopted the name as i was mentioned in the Qur’an, in order to claim the privileges of the People of the Book. They were Syrian star-worshippers with Hellenistic tendencies, like the Jews contemporary with Jesus. It is no doubtful whether they had any right to be called People of the Book in the technical sense of the term. But i think that in this matter (though many authorities would dissent) the term can be extended by analogy to cover earnest followers of Zoroaster, the Vedas, Buddha, Confucius and other Teachers of moral law.

There was another people caled the Sabaeans, who played an important part in the history of early Arabia, and are known through their inscriptions in an alphabet allied to teh Phoenician and the Babylonian. They had a flourishing kingdom in the Yemen tract in South Arabia about 800 - 700 B.C., though their origin may have been in North Arabia. They worshipped the planets and stars (Moon, Sun, Venus). Probably the Queen of Sheba is connected with them. They succumbed to Abyssinia about A.D. 350 and Persia about A.D. 579. Their capital was near Sanaa. They had beautiful stone buildings, which the pointed arch in noticeable.

The point of the verses is that Islam does not teach an exclusive doctrine, and is not meant exclusively for one people. The Jews claimed this for themselves, and the Christians in their origin were a sect of the Jews. Even the modern organised Christian churches, though they have been, consciously, influenced by the time-spirit, including the historical fact of Islam, yet cling to the idea of Vicarious Atonement, which means that all who do not believe in it or who lived previously to the death of Christ are at a disadvantages spiritually before the Throne of God. The attitude of Islam is entirely different. Islam existed before the preaching of Muhammad :saw2: on this earth: the Qur’an expressly calls Abraham a Muslim. Its teaching (submission to God’s will) has been and will be the teaching of Religion for all peoples.

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Geo TV is run by idiots.

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TLK Bhai !

plz do not staart nasikh O mansookh here as most of the people here do not understand this and can easily fall into MUNKIR-e-hadiths fitnas hands ,

I know where you are coming from and completely respect your knowledge but as you know its not easy to explain people on the forum equally difficult to understand and we modern muslims never discuss our islamic issues with aalim but with our friends or family..