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i, religiously, watch “News Night” with Amir Abbas on Waqt News. one of the regular guests who come analyze the day’s news is** Mr. Absar Abd-ul-'Ali**. he is a well respected, soft spoken and a thorough gentleman, who even resembles Qaa’id-e-Azam MoHammad 'Ali Jinnah.
i respect him and like his analysis but his name drew my attention.
what do you think about his name?
regards
_______KKF
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
pehle aap ye bataiye aap Indian news channels ke talk shows nahin dekhte? just curious.
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
Is it Abdul-Ali or Abdul-Aali? How do they write it in Urdu?
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no. never! i don’t care for the Indian politics. i hate their Hindi dominated newscasts.
it’s Abd ul Ali = [slave of Ali]
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There are so many Abd ul Ali even in Arab world.
Abdul Ali - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Its not Ali , but Aali. somehow written in English as Ali
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
i think it’s an OK name among Shi’a brothers while among Sunnis this name is not at all given, imo because one can be a slave [banda/Ghulam] to Allah only and NOT to any human. so, abd ul Allah [Abdullah] is very common among sunnis and even Arab Christians [Abdalla].
this prefix [Abd] is also used with Allah’s other Names [Attributes] like Abdul Ha’ii, Abd ul Ghani, Abdul Quddus etc.
Abd ul AAAli is fine because Al Aali is Allah’s Attribute [the most High]…
Abd ul Ali was written as Ali, NOT AAAli [Absar Abd ul Ali]
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
Do you think that Shia consider Abdul Ali (if its not Aali or variation of Aali) in the same meaning as Abdullah?
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
What about ‘Abul Aala’ used by a famous Muslim scholar Modudi?
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
yes, i guess so. they name their sons ‘Kalb-e-Ali’ so i think Abd ul Ali is OK for them. their reverence to Hazrat Ali [k.w.] is at a much higher level than Sunnis.
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
Whatever the level of respect they have for Hazrat Ali (RA), I’m 100% sure, they don’t consider him equal to Allah. So, Abdul Ali is wrong usage or mispronounced term.
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
as far as i know his anme was Abul Alaa [alif, be vaao, alif, laam, ye, khaRaa alif].
Abu means father, pidar and also used as kunniyat [alias]…is liye Abul Alaa would mean sab se baRaa [sab pe bhaarii] … lol…that’s what i think…i could be wrong!
‘sab pe bhaarii’ reminds you of Zardari?
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There are confusions about name and his opponents do criticise him for his name
Re: what do you think of the name "Absar Abd-ul-'Ali?
i don’t know if they do or do not consider Hazrat Ali [KW] to be equal to Allah for sure but saying “Yaa Ali!” is tantamount to him being omnipresent [an attribute of Allah]. as i believe one of the sects within shi’aism does consider him to be equal to Allah…i think it’s one of the sects in Lebanon. i will rather not deviate from the topic at hand. i’m not saying that they do believe in Hazrat Ali [KW] to be equal to Allah…what i say is that their reverence is at a higher level so it may be ok to call someone Abdul Ali just to show utmost respect. theologically, yes! this name should not be valid.
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equal terminology in desi society for ‘Ya Ali’… Don’t we say ‘Amma Ji’ when we are hurt or in fever. At least, I did said when I was in fever and my Amma was hundreds miles away from me. Does that mean we consider our Amma jis omni present?
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well, we can discuss this in another thread.
i think an adult saying “yaa Ali” with great reverence is NOT the same as a kid saying “ammi/mummy!” in distress and in pain. there is no reverence attached to the child’s calling out his/her mother for help.
Khair.