What do Ahmedi's call mainstream muslims?

Ibn_Sadique · March 11, 2014, 10:18pm

Re: What do Ahmedi’s call mainstream muslims?

Thanks for this. Problem solved. “cannot be a Muslim” = Kaffir!

If you want disagree with your promised messiah that’s your privilege.

We don’t have to go in circles - I am done in this thread.

Mu’awiyah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah said, “When Allah wishes good for someone, He bestows upon him the understanding of Deen.” [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, “He who is asked about knowledge (of religion) and conceals it, will be bridled with a bridle of fire on the Day of Resurrection.”[Abu Dawud and At- Tirmidhi].

Respected brother psyah – You have worked hard to acquire and search for knowledge. Allah Almighty has blessed you with knowledge. Now it is your religious obligation to share this blessing with others.

Ma Sha Allah Many people here benefit from your posts and I am one of them. Your methodology and style is good so don’t let the distracters put you off from carrying on this good work. In Sha Allah your reward is with Allah Almighty.

Sometimes knowledge hurts some people especially when you have drubbed their noses in the ground with it.

Keep up the good work.

Saving this for record:

~~**Team Silver(Chaandi)**~~

Ibn sadique,
I do not have enough time at the moment to quote you and answer you on every single thing you post. What I’m going to try now is to explain to you jamaat stance and what we say.

You quoted texts from Hazrat Musleh Maud(ra)'s book as well as Promised Messiah(as)'s book.

Read this carefully because I am only going to explain this to you once.

We call non ahmadis, as non ahmadi Muslims. Reason being that they call themselves Muslims.

Promised Messiah (as) said who do not believe in him cannot be a Muslim. What is the definition of a Muslim? Someone who believes in all the prophets of Allah beside other 5 articles of faith. By this definition, you reject who we believe to have been sent by Allah, an ummati prophet of Muhammad PBUH, who you yourself have been waiting for ( Jesus literally in your case). So, it comes back to same question. What will you call a Muslim who rejects any pillar or article of faith ? Definitely not a ‘non-muslim’ right? But, s/he would be committing kufr.

Hence, we call you a non-ahmadi Muslim, because you profess to not believe in who we believe was sent by Allah.

What makes you a Muslim ? Firstly, you claim to be a follower of Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Secondly, you profess with your tongue that you are a Muslim.

Kindly look in to yourself from an ahmadi point of view. Don’t boast that you are a Muslim just because your fellow Muslims call your Muslim. Being called a Muslim is far easier than acting like one.

Conclusion :

We call you non - ahmadi Muslim. The book of promised messiah only elaborate that how can a Muslim be a Muslim when he rejects someone sent by Allah, rejecting one of the article of faith(committing kufr). You think He was not sent by Allah, so you are ok calling yourself Muslim, and we will call you as Muslim too, but a non-ahmadi Muslim.

I hope I dont have to repeat myself on atleast what I wrote.