What do Ahmedi's call mainstream muslims?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: What do Ahmedi’s call mainstream muslims?

@kchughtai

Please answer the basic questions that I posed to you or the answers are not in your bag of references?
The problem is that you keep your eyes closed to the answers we gave and references we quote. You simply love to beat your own drum.

Brother** kchughtai** – let’s not get ahead of ourselves

I (and others) have never shied away from answering your questions – I promise I’ll answer that question posed by you. I know where you are trying to lead this debate. We’ll get there too, worry not.

The topic of this thread is “What do Ahmedi’s call mainstream muslims?”

Trust me, I do read all that you (and others) write – Indeed you have given answers which you want us to hear well knowing that this is not according to stance of your elders.

The reason I love to beat my own drum is to wake you (and others) up to notice the glaring discrepancy in what you want us to hear and what your elders have stated?

By answers given by you (and others) You are still keep mainstream Muslims within the fold of Islam contrary to your elders who have declared non Ahmadis as kaffirs, non-Muslims and out of pale of Islam!

See for yourself yet again:

@Ibn_Sadique

The Ahmadi/Qadiani posters have stated that they call mainstream Muslims as: Non-Ahmadi Muslims. Ghair Ahmadi Muslims ----- contrary to their eminent leader’s positions.

Whereas their eminent leaders have used the following words and phrases:

*‘not Muslims’

‘we could not possibly regard his deniers as Muslims’

‘not Muslims’

‘not only are those deemed to be Kafirs’

‘have here been adjudged to be Kafirs’

‘veritable Kafirs’ = ‘pakkay kafir’*

Kchughtai be brave and disown the statements of Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad & Chaudhry Zafarullah Khan, if you don’t then your stance is just a smokescreen to fool the people.

So who is speaking on behalf of your jamaat?

You and others over here?

OR should we trust Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad & Chaudhry Zafarullah Khan?

Who is trying to hoodwink us?

This is what you and others are not answering!

Let’s clear this and we move on.

@kchughtai

Also tell me (the question that was posed and never answered) what is objective of this exercise? what is the difference if Ahmadis consider you Muslim or not? what conclusion do you want to draw?
After you answer, I will try to answer to your satisfaction.

The objective is to simply point out the glaring discrepancy between your answers and the statements made your eminent scholars!

It makes no difference at all if Ahmadis consider us Muslims or not but please don’t hoodwink us with wrong answers.

The only conclusion I can draw is that Ahmadis try to hoodwink others to the reality about themselves. Just as in some post in this thread I showed how Ahmadi leadership tried to hoodwink others and their own followers too that there were 200 million Ahmadis worldwide in 2004!!!