What do Ahmedi's call mainstream muslims?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: What do Ahmedi’s call mainstream muslims?

@Mr.Popat

So, Muhammad PBUH is the last ‘born’ prophet, whereas, Jesus a.s will be the last prophet to ‘die’ ?
I’m simply amazed how you see no contradiction at all.
Jesus a.s upon his second coming will be given a new task and mission. Do you believe Gabriel will not be coming to Him to tell him to do this and that ? or will he already be educated about his mission?
Jesus a.s will be a prophet. New or old appointment is your own made up explanation. He will be given a new mission, therefore, Gabriel will be coming to Him just like how he came to other prophets. Now tell me again what does khataman nabiyeen mean ?
OK. Jesus a.s will not be breaking the ‘seal’ of prophet ? Please tell me how His new mission, him being called a prophet, him renewing the true teachings of Islam doesn’t break the seal of prophethood ? If you accept Jesus, trust me you will also be taken out of the fold of Islam by people who wont accept Jesus a.s. Choice is yours as i said before. Be called a Muslim and reject Allah’s prophet, or be called a kafir and be acceptable in the eyes of Allah.

**Dear Mr. Popat **You must know that Muslims beliefs are based on:

1. The Blessed Quran as explained by the Blessed Prophet (peace be upon him) and understood by his Blessed Companions (may Allah Almighty be pleased with them all)

2. The Sunnah and the ahadith of the Blessed Prophet (peace be upon him) as understood and reported by his Blessed Companions (may Allah Almighty be pleased with them all).

Muslims believe in the above without putting any new interpretations (to the above).

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani brought in new interpretation to the Blessed Quran and ahadith to suit his nefarious designs to mislead the Muslims.
You can clearly see that he gave more emphasis to his so-called ‘wahi’
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“The basis for our claim is not Hadith but Quran and that WAHI which comes to us. Yes in support we also quote those Hadith which are according to Quran and DO NOT CONTRADICT MY WAHI. As for the REST OF THE HADITHs, I THROW THEM AWAY LIKE A WASTE PAPER*.”** (Roohani Khazain vol 19 p.140) **

If you don’t understand it then it is your problem. I’ll repeat myself again and this has nothing to do about the subject matter of this thread.

@Ibn_Sadique

Here we go round and round – back in circular motion yet again.

Please listen to this for once – We don’t have to repeat it again and again.

The Last person appointed to be Prophet by Allah Almighty is the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). After him there will be no more appointments. The door of Prophet hood is closed forever. The seal of Prophet hood has been set never to be broken. This Seal has been put in place by Allah Almighty Himself at His own pleasure.

Whoever claims to be a prophet will be deemed a liar, pretender and a charlatan. By this act he will become a kaffir.

Prophet Jesus ibn Maryum (as) is not the last appointed Prophet.

The Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) has told us on second coming of Prophet Jesus ibn Maryum (as) – this time around he will come to lead the Muslim Ummah and the world at large to Victory over falsehood and bring justice to the World.

This is the Belief of 1.7 Billion Muslims.

You don’t have to believe it - no problems.

@Mr.Popat

What do we call a person who reject Hz Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) ? Same as what you believe a Muslim who abandons prayers

Anyone who examines the texts of the Qur’aan and Sunnah will see that they indicate that the one who neglects the prayer is guilty of Kufr Akbar (major kufr) which puts him beyond the pale of Islam.

Neglecting prayer out of laziness - islamqa.info

We believe that a person who doesn’t pray but does not deny Prayers are Fard is committing Kufr Akbar; thus beyond pale of Islam. This is the majority view. A few scholars still account them as Muslims but as rebellious in deeds and not in Belief and are destined for severe punishment unless Allah Almighty forgives them out of His Mercy and Grace on account of their other deeds which earned Almighty’s Pleasure.

Not Praying: Major Sin or Nullifier of Islam?

Also If anyone rejects any of the Prophets is guilty of committing Kufr Akbar as belief in ALL Prophets is form Usul Al Deen (Principles of Faith) Thus he is a kaffir and out of pale of Islam.

All Muslims (1.6 Billion) belief that Hz. Adam (as) father of Mankind is the first Human and the first Prophet of Allah Almighty. And the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the LAST Prophet of Allah Almighty. He is the SEAL of Prophet Hood. The door of Prophet Hood has been Sealed. Only a liar will henceforth claim to be a prophet from Allah Almighty!

All Muslims (1.6 Billion) reject all the claims of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani and regard him as an imposter, false prophet, and a charlatan – thus a kaffir.

Thus you should have the guts like that of Mr. Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad and declare non-believers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as Pukky Kaffir and out of pale of Islam.

You are showing disloyalty to your faith – and to Mr. Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad.

This is just posturing here for public consumption.

Your tongues lie but the hearts are with Mr. Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad’s position and your minds are outsmarting themselves for public posturing!

Sir, You are NOT going to fool anybody with your public posturing over here!