What do Ahmedi's call mainstream muslims?

[Ibn_Sadique]

Re: What do Ahmedi’s call mainstream muslims?

@Mr.Popat

^^ is it fair to say that you are not following the ahadith of Muhammad PBUH when he said anyone who direct themselves to Kaaba for praying is Muslim, or when He PBUH said, who ever eats halal food is a Muslim, or when He PBUH said anyone who recites kalima shahadah is a Muslim. If you have another definition of Muslim, then you are openly and clearly rejecting Holy Prophet PBUH’s ahadith.

Dear **Mr. Popat **– I sincerely sympathise with the position you are in and admire your passion. You meet all the conditions to be a Muslim, may be a better Muslim than me.

But by following another prophet against what the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had proclaimed, that he is the last and final Prophet and Messenger from Allah Almighty and the Blessed Quran states the same, you have opted yourself out of Ummah of Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

It is not me or any other person declaring Ahmadis non-muslim/kafir but their own actions.

Please for once be sincere and apply the same (I have highlighted it in your quotation) to the statements of Mr. Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad’s stance.

1. `those who did not accept the Promised Messiah were deniers of the Promised Messiah’. Its object rather was to demonstrate that those who did not believe in the Promised Messiah were not Muslims." A’inah-i Sadaqat (pp. 135-136)

2. that as we believed the Promised Messiah to be one of the prophets of God, we could not possibly regard his deniers as Muslims." A’inah-i Sadaqat (pp. 137-138)

3. who openly style the Promised Messiah as Kafir, and those who although they do not style him thus, decline still to accept his claim

4. but even those who, in their hearts, believe the Promised Messiah to be true, and do not even deny him with their tongues, but hesitate to enter into his Bai`at, have here been adjudged to be Kafirs."

5. such people as had failed to recognise the Promised Messiah as a Rasul even if they called him a righteous person with their tongues, were yet veritable Kafirs." A’inah-i Sadaqat (p. 140)*

Do you agree with his takfir? Not that we care.

@Mr.Popat

So, go ahead, tell me if Ahmadis are Muslim or non-muslim/kafir.

My stance is very clear as I said before by following another prophet against what the Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had proclaimed, that he is the last and final Prophet and Messenger from Allah Almighty and the Blessed Quran states the same, you have opted yourself out of Ummah of Blessed Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). With the evidence from the Blessed Quran and the Noble aHadith Ahmadis are non-muslim/kafir.

I am using the same formula as used by Mr. Mirza Bashiruddin Mahmud Ahmad.

Ahmadis are to us in same position as you would take Musaylimah the liar and his followers to be.

If you reject claims of Mr Mirza Ghulam Ahmad then you will have done the best favour for yourself and joined the Ummah of the Blessed Final and the Last Prophet (peace be upon him) of Allah Almighty.

We must always pray to Allah Almighty to guide us and keep us firmly on the right path – the path that earns His Pleasure. Guidance is indeed only from Allah Almighty.

*“And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam, and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky.” [Al-An’aam, 6:125]

“Verily! You (O Muhammad) guide not whom you like, but Allah guides whom He wills.” [Al-Qasas, 28:56]

“And they will say: All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has guided us to this, never could we have found guidance, were it not that Allah guided us!” [Al-A’araaf, 7:43]
“He whom Allah guides, is rightly guided; but he whom He sends astray, for him you will find no wali (guiding friend) to lead him (to the right Path).” [Kahf, 18:17]

“Say: Verily, Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides unto Himself who turns to Him in repentance.” [Ar-Ra’ad, 13:27]
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