What did Pakistan get or loose after first nucluer tests

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Pakistan celelebrated “Yom-e-takbeer” today, the day when it first tested its nukes in Chaghi Baluchistan.

I dont have a single doubt that Pakistan is far more secure now than before, all credit goes to Dr. Abdul Qadeer and his team.

But later Pakistani govt failed to resolve its internal securities in terms of many challenges that faced. More Pakistanis got killed at the hand of terrorism, target killings for different reasons etc. Pakistani economy hit rock bottom at one point.

Still I think it was imperative to go nucluer at that time. What do you think?

Youm-i-Takbeer, a day of pride for Pakistan: PM Nawaz - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Youm-i-Takbeer, a day of pride for Pakistan: PM NawazAPP — PUBLISHED about 19 hours ago

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A view of replica of Chaghi Mountain at Faizabad Interchange being decorated with lights to mark the Youm-e-Takbeer. -Online

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A view of replica of Chaghi Mountain at Faizabad Interchange being decorated with lights to mark the Youm-e-Takbeer. -Online

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A worker busy in cleaning the replica at the Gallant Park in connection with Youm-i-Takbeer. -APP

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A view of replica of Chaghi Mountain at Faizabad Interchange being decorated with lights to mark the Youm-e-Takbeer. -APP

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A view of replica of Chaghi Mountain at Faizabad Interchange being decorated with lights to mark the Youm-e-Takbeer. -Online

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A view of replica of Chaghi Mountain at Faizabad Interchange being decorated with lights to mark the Youm-e-Takbeer. -Online

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has said that ‘Youm-i-Takbeer’ is indeed a day of pride for Pakistani nation and the Muslims all over the globe.
Nawaz said this while giving a message to the nation on the occasion of Youm-i-Takbeer, which is being observed on Thursday (May 28) to mark the historic day when Pakistan became an atomic power.
The prime minister also reminded the nation about the historic background of the event. On May 11, 1998, India with its nuclear tests had disturbed the balance of power in the South Asian region.
He said there was a surge in the aggressive designs of India as it not only showed its intentions of sending armed forces to Azad Kashmir, with converging of army on the Line of Control, but its defence minister also announced that the Indian Army would be armed with the nuclear weapons.
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A worker busy in cleaning work at the Gallant Park in connection with Youm-i-Takbeer. -APP

“Under such nerve-wracking situation, we started consultation to cope with the Indian threat and faced the international pressure mounting on the country, asking us not to conduct the nuclear tests,” he said.
“However, Keeping the national interest in sight, we took the decision and on May 28, 1998 Pakistan became a nuclear power.”
The prime minister said that after conducting nuclear tests, defence of Pakistan became impregnable and the enemies could not dare to look towards it with bad intentions.
He said, now the enemies had changed their strategy and were trying to weaken the country internally.
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A worker busy in cleaning the replica of bullet at the Gallant Park in connection with Youm-i-Takbeer. -APP

“The government alone could not face such a situation, for this purpose the nation and the armed forces need to tackle this unitedly.”
Nawaz said, “Today the entire nation is united on the issue of terrorism,” and added the ongoing Operation Zarb-i-Azb against terrorists was getting unprecedented successes.
He said the officers and Jawans of Pakistan Army were sacrificing their lives to get rid the motherland of terrorism, so that the present and future of the coming generations could be secured.
He said on this important occasion he would like to mention China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, and added “no one can deny the fact that a strong economy is a must for a strong defence.”
“I assure the people with complete honesty that the benefits of the economic corridor project will reach to the people of every region of Pakistan,” he added.
He said the government was serving the people with full devotion and were answerable to them for the steps taken by the government.

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Pakistan has neither gained nor lost anything. Pakistan with all its nuclear arsenal is more unstable as compared to its neighbour on the west Iran. Being a part of axis of evil, the U.S. Has not had the courage to attack them (their enemy) while trampling nuclear Pakistan (their so called ally) is a routine matter. Have the nuclear weapons made us any safer (ghq attack, kamra, pns etc)? Vietnam did not have nuclear weapons, on the contrary we can see what happened to nuclear ussr.

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From Bhutto to NS, almost every ruler and party has taken the credit for Atomic program and i think everyone is right. They do deserve the credit for keeping up with the progress and elevating the defense of this country.

Here is a worldwide report from a Swedish institute from last year:

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US has the capability of striking sneakily through various false contracts/promises. The nuke has deterred India from being aggressive militarily against Pakistan, and I believe that was main objective behind all the spending on nukes.

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India has learnt our tricks over the years, no country needs to use direct force, non state actors can do ther job effectively.

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^ yes but 1998 has made the case stronger for non-state actors, don’t forget that India was ready to wage war in Musharraf era when Musharraf threatened of a nuke as first choice.

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Yeah we built em for Shab e Barat celebrations :chai:

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I have to disagree shah jee…with the benefit of hindsight, we now know that had we not possessed nuclear weapons, india would have most likely attacked pakistan in 2001 and for sure after Mumbai incidence in 2008. India probably would have escalated kargil war on other fronts as well.

So we have benefited a lot from nuclear weapons.

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If Nukes are for deterrence only, do we need to keep on producing them?

I personally think the era of direct wars is over (it could have spelled disaster for India, especially its economy). Direct wars only take place where we have super powers on one side and impoverished/weak countries on another. We have got a bigger deterrent in Pakistan, much bigger than nukes…he is… :smokin:

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Those who think nukes server no purpose..

India Wrestles with Nuclear Arms Paradox
Mon January 13, 2003 05:20 AM ET

By Sanjeev Miglani
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Nearly five years after India and Pakistan
became nuclear powers, New Delhi is finally coming to terms with what
that status means – the threat of a Pakistani first strike has
neutralized its conventional superiority.
Analysts say last year’s inconclusive military standoff between the
neighbors highlighted what many had feared when the two conducted
tit-for-tat nuclear tests in 1998, that India would no longer dare go
to war with Pakistan.

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Did you look at the number of nukes for USA and Russia? This is how armed race works. It is unfortunate, and wish such innocent question had an answer.

Nuclear bomb instilled confidence and self respect and security in the minds of Pakistanis and this is priceless. Plenty of Arab states also have armies, but USA, Israel and now KSA had still conducted widely hit and run air strikes on them. Pakistan as country is as self destructive as Pakistan cricket team, and they often pay the heaviest price for their own mistakes, but no one from outside could dare attack the country whether you play the so called double games with USA or say no to KSA or reply back to Indian firing on the border.

But truth to be told, proxy war is the new and the most dangerous type of warfare for present and future. India has already expressed support to launch state funded terrorism to counter Pakistan. God knows why both countries bother developing nuclear warheads.

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I am sorry it didnt instill any confidence, Pakistan is no safe security wise even after so many nukes. The thing that can make us safe is national cohesion and strong economy. As far as strikes are concerned US is conducting drone strikes for almost a decade, and not to forget the OBL operation (deep inside Pakistan) since our army does not own up their role in it.

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In reality I dont think that Pakistan and India can use nukes. An attack on Lahore will impact Indian Punjab as well, similarly Karachi will impact Gujarat and vice versa. Conventional wars are too expensive, I dont think Pakistan and India will ever fight one on one. Most of our wars have ended within a few weeks due to meager resources. In the after math of Kargil war India had threatened Pakistan of an all out war, where in Nawaz had to dash to the US to calm down the situation.

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Ali we are not talking about you here. Are you really denying that fact that Pakistan as a country collectively do not feel assured that no outside power will ever conventionally attack them? Nukes are not supposed be used on your land! Nukes are deterrence for outside powers, it stops them from treating your country like Lebanon, Yemen and Libya. USA conducted drones strikes in FATA because Musharraf himself allowed them to! Similarly USA had significantly reduced drone strikes because post Musharraf army leadership started opposing. Why didn’t they ever extend the drone strikes to KPK forget about droning any other parts of the country. The USA came in and got their man without breaking a pot anywhere. If they could, they would’ve got OBL with some supplementary air strikes as well. Just like Israel got after Hezbollah in 2006 Lebanon war. Right?

If Pakistan’s security situation is bad than that’s because of their uniquely created complex mistakes. It’s like you install a fancy security alarm at front of your house, but you forget to lock your back door because you trust your neighbours so much.