What did india get from all this drama?

First their media says “PM summons ISI chief to india”, Pak sends not even a clerk in reply

Next day they are like “Pak backs down from its promise to send ISI chief to india”
:omg:

OK, so after couple of days… media again, "Hand over top20 wanted ‘terrorists’, or else.. ".

Pak says, 2 of them are not in Pak, rest are Pak citizens if you have proof against them hand it to us and we will see.

Indian media next day, “Pak considers handing over wanted if evidence provided” :omg:

Pak says, “no Pak citizen will ever be handed over to india, if they have evidence they should provide it to us and we will try them in our own country”.

India runs to - as BJP says - “Mommy” with all sorta complaints and after all the hue and cry gets 3 useless org. banned, :omg:

Oh man do they have any self respect? First making all sort of calls and threating with war and when Pak says, ok bring it on… run to mommy!

What did india achieve from all this drama? Any thoughts?

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

How about a dose of reality? Here goes:

Day 1: Zardari, president of Pakistan: Ok, we will send you the ISI chief immediately
Night 1: Kiyani: Mr.President, ain't happening
Day 2: Zardari: he he he....sorry guys, can't send ISI chief....but please don't punish Pakistan for acts of non-state actors


Was this also being reported by your passionate media? :hehe:

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

by your 'dis'passionate media huzoor

Agenda 1: Kill the top cop investigating hindu terrorism (Samjhaota express bombings).

Agenda 2: Make it look like 'Muslim' terrorists did it.

Agenda 3: Fulfil their decades old dream of having UN declare Pakistan a 'terrorist state'. They've been working very very hard on it for a very long past.

Agenda 4: Aggressive media campeigns against Pakistan to isolate it completely from the rest of world as they know stupid Pakistan citizens will insist their govt. to graciously accept the blame instead of forcefully demanding crystal clear proofs of their fake accusations.

Agenda 5: Eliminate every possibility of discovering the hindu 'links' in all the past incidents which were previously blamed on Pakistan and ISI.

Agenda 6: Pressurize US to attack Pakistan. Which they also have been desperately seeking since before US attacks on the tribal regions. They originally pressurized US to invade the whole of Pakistan, not just the tribal regions. Red mosque stage show was a part of the same mission (with the assistance of our own people). To prove that the 'Islamic radicals' are not limited to border. Has any of us seen the Red mosque kind of stage show ever in the history of Pakistan? No because india is getting innovative in their desperate attempts to prove their invalid point. They're trying hard to turn Pakistan into a 'Islamicized terror land' to prove their point by taking advantages of the fools.

I am sure missing more.

RAW cocked up this mission. The local police didnt shoot back at the gunmen at the railway station. The guys thought they would be let go alive but when this guy saw them mutilating his buddy's face to cover up the deception, he gave up. A badly executed false flag operation.

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

ambassador1

you have seen video of Qasab and his fellow terroritsobs attacking innocents in Mumbai
you have seen Qasab's father admitting that is his son in the video

if you still continue claiming silly conspiracies, there is no credibility

Well said!

Seriously indians, if you want to have any good relationships with your neighbors, get rid of RAW! Thats the only way they might start taking you serious.

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

No, we actually know that for good relations it is Pakistan that has to stop growing terrorism in the name of jihad

What India managed to do through all this "drama" (as you put it) is to have most of the civilized world on its side. Thats a big first step in this war that we are fighting :)

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

when its clear now that persons captured is pakistani then who is doing drama now?

come out of closet and accept that few among you people are bad boys.. and they don't care about the country and only want everyone to follow islam.

If you put religion before country or humanity this killing will never stop.. :(

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

Indian Government or i would say Maharashtra government did probe in to malegao blast and arrested some hindu fanatics one army major was also jailed

a) Indian Govt admitted that this major was involved and allowed the investigating agencies to prosecute him.
b) This investigation is for Malegao blast ATS is looking in to possibility of these people involvement in Samjauta Express & it has not been admitted by the ATS but they did confirm that Malegao blasts were conducted by these fanatics
c)INDIAN GOVERNMENT WAS NOT IN DENIAL MOOD WHEN A SERVING ARMY MAJOR WAS ARRESTED THAT ITSELF SHOWS THE INDIAN GOVERNMENTS COMMITMENT TO BRING THE CULPRITS TO JUSTICE.

Will Pak government show such maturity or it will go on playing dumb when the whole world knows the truth.

  1. ATS Chief Killed (no more curtain raiser for thakrey and sons)

  2. More VOTES for Hindu Extreamist parties

  3. Turned world’s attention from killing of christians to other way. People in the world just started raising voices of concern on the killing of innocent christians in India by hindu extreamists.

  1. ATS chief killed by 'Muslim' extremists from Pakistan
  2. 'Hindu' extremist party (BJP) tried to make an issue out of terror and failed in the recently concluded state elections. They will probably be rethinking their strategy for the general elections next year.
  3. The whole Christian genocide thing was made a big issue by Sonia Gandhi and her Congress party. The drama of going behind the so-called Hindu extremists was to take the heat off Christian missionaries and their conversion schemes.

Truth is subjective & what is true to you may not be true to me. So what truth are you talking about?

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

‘Indian female spy arrested near Afghan border’

LAHORE: Amid escalating tension between Pakistan and India following the Mumbai terror attacks, Pakistani officials said security forces captured an Indian female spy near the Pak-Afghan border, the Hindustan Times reported on Saturday. It said an Interior Ministry official confirmed the arrest, saying the woman was the second Indian spy arrested in Pakistan in less than two months. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the woman, arrested after intelligence reports, was moved to Islamabad and was being interrogated, the paper said. Quoting security agencies, the official said there was ‘strong evidence’ of the woman’s Indian nationality and that she was ‘an employee of a top Indian intelligence agency’. He said security along the Pak-Afghan border has been beefed up following tensions between Pakistan and India, the newspaper said. daily times monitor

This is a question many of us have been asking since the day of mumbai attacks; who killed hemant kurkurey and who benefitted from his death??? the answer has still not been provided!!!

Antulay seeks probe into Karkare’s killing-India-The Times of India

Antulay seeks probe into Karkare’s killing

18 Dec 2008, 1000 hrs IST, TNN

NEW DELHI: Minority affairs minister A R Antulay on Wednesday set off a major political row by demanding a probe into the shooting of Mumbai ATS [http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thumb.cms?msid=3853205&width=200&resizemode=4

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chief Hemant Karkare in the 26/11 terror strikes which he linked to investigations into the alleged involvement of Hindu radicals in the Malegaon blast case.

Stating that the circumstances of Karkare’s shooting “may be inquired into”, Antulay seemed to have borrowed a leaf from Pakistani TV hosts who have claimed that the Mumbai attacks were the handiwork of “Hindu-Zionists”. Antulay told the media outside Parliament’s gate number 12 that “there must have been some reason why Karkare went to Cama hospital instead of Taj and Oberoi hotels.”

Antulay said “someone” could have told Karkare and other officers with him to go to Cama hospital, suggesting that the ATS chief fell victim to a set-up as he was probing cases which involved Hindu radicals in the Malegaon case. The comments were immediately televised and triggered an uproar in Lok Sabha where BJP and Shiv Sena MPs vehemently criticised the minister who insisted that directions issued to the officer must be probed.

A red-faced Congress swiftly dissociated itself from the minister with party spokesperson Abhisekh Singhvi saying, “We don’t accept the inference and the innuendo that underline the statement (of Antulay)…we don’t agree with bringing this case (Karkare’s killing) under a cloud.”

But Antulay was unfazed, virtually daring the Congress to sack him and offering to “explain” the geography of south Mumbai to his party.

He got support from the RJD with party leader Devendra Yadav also expressing suspicion of involvement of Hindu radicals in Karkare’s killing. As his boss Lalu Prasad looked on approvingly, he said, “Two days before Karkare was killed, who had given a call for Maharashtra bandh?”

Reacting to the controversy, BJP condemned Antulay’s statement and said the minister was as good as playing ISI’s attorney and demanded his sacking. BJP leader Arun Jaitley said Pakistan could now quote Antulay to contest the account of the lone surviving Mumbai terrorist Ajmal Amir Kasab. “Having made such a preposterous statement, Antulay cannot be allowed to remain in government even for a day,” he said.

Antulay has been fulminating since Tuesday evening when the Cabinet cleared the bills for a National Investigation Agency and amendments to the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act. He expressed apprehension that tougher anti-terror laws could well be misused, hinting that minorities were in the line of fire.

On Wednesday afternoon, Antulay added to this script, telling TV cameras that apart from terrorism, the laws should also emcompass communal riots. “Those who riot are also terrorists,” he claimed, seeking to provide what he felt was a sense of “equivalence” to the government’s actions. But soon after, perhaps dissatisfied by his efforts, Antulay reappeared to claim he suspected foul play in the shooting of Karkare.

The “Karakare conspiracy” has been articulated by some Urdu newspapers and clerics like the Shahi Imam of Delhi’s Jama Masjid. This is despite the exhaustive account of Ajmal Kasab, who along with slain terrorist Ismail, shot Karkare, additional commissioner Ashok Kamte and encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar. Also, a Mumbai police constable Jadhav, who actually survived the shooting by lying at the back of the qualis commandeered by Kasab and Ismail has given his account of the shooting as well.

Antulay’s blatant attempt to politicise the death of the Mumbai ATS chief at a time when the government was moving harder anti-terror laws may well have sounded the deathknell to the post 26/11 bipartisanship in fighting terrorism. It also places Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in an arkward position. If Antulay continues as a minister without a full retraction, it would mean allowing the minister to undermine the government on the Mumbai attacks.

Antulay’s controversial comments provided fodder for an enraged Opposition. While Shiv Sena’s Anant Geete drew Lok Sabha’s attention to Antulay’s words, triggering a spat with treasury benches, the minister sought to present a defence by saying he had only questioned who had sent the top cops in the direction of Cama hospital when bigger attacks were happening at Taj and Oberoi. He was cut short by Geete that his statement was more categorical and was on TV.

Devendra Yadav demanded that home minister P Chidambaram constitute a “probe on the relation between terror and Sangh Parivar.”](“javascript:openslideshownew(‘/slideshow/3853205.cms?imw=460’,‘541’)”)

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

^ Kasab has already confessed to firing at the police car (which had Karkare & others), and hijacking it. Such conspiracy theories are just ways to get free publicity.

Kasab would also admit, he is Aishwarya Roy. Give him some more “Truth Serums”.

Ah talking about free publicity…where should I begin with? :hehe:

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

^ Even FBI has interrogated him (with or without truth serum) and have confirmed India's claims. So you can continue to beat your conspiracy theories to death.....

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^^FBI is not a Pakistani Agency. It's common sense to let the accused have access to equal information to prove itself innocent, in this case Pakistan.

FBI in no way represents Pakistan in this case. It's real simple, you want to accuse Pakistan, then allow Pakistani interrogation team access to him as well and set the record straight once and for all. Why dilly dally around the most appropriate and logical approach?

Re: What did india get from all this drama?

^ You can keep crying about "we did not get access to Kasab". It just further reiterates the Pakistani givernment's hesitation or unwillingness to act against terrorists operating from within its area.