What Bob Woolmer had to say on INZY & the boys at Pak-Crick

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This new thread will show the ‘copy-paste’ of some very interesting exchange of emails I had with BOB WOOLMER (Allah Bakhshay)
during his (painful) stint as our Cricket Team’s Chief Coach.

Last I met Bob was when I invited him over dinner at the ‘Salt n Pepper’ restaurant-Karachi for dinner—where the other guests included; Dr. Saad Shafqat, the famous Neurologist at the AKUH & author of Javed Miandad’s biography, Osman Samiuddin of CricInfo and Dr. Murtaza Kasuri..the anchor of TV program Howzzat!

Will also post some pics with Bob and others…

Wait…

-Raju Jamil (former Media Manager-PCB)

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all ears n eyes:)

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why are you threatening us raju uncle

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GUD ONE :) and my mistook...oops...mistake!

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I first met...actually I should say..got in touch...with Bob via email. Initially he was silent till he checked on me from some colleagues at the PCB.. like Asad Mustafa & Subhan...and finally he responded--thereafter it all started and he did respond to some thoughts cascaded by my cricket group *PAKISTANI_CRICKETWALLAS on Yahoogroups I created during WC-99 and my yahoogroup has over 700 members spread the world over--essentially Pakistanis. We have Javed Miandad, Haroon Rasheed, Hanif Muhammad, Wasim Bari, PCB Officials...and others as members. We discuss armchair selections during Pakistan's matches and critically examine the performance. Former Chairman PCB Tauzir Zia acknowledged our yahoo group officially.*

Anyway----the email exchanges with Bob led to meeting him at Lahore, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad & Multan during various matches and my last meeting with some key members of my group based in Karachi, with Bob was at the SALT N PEPPER, near Seaview-Karachi when he was here for the TEST against West Indies. I invited Brian Lara also..but he fell sick of some stomach ache...and couldn't make it.

During that dinner--Bob told us some amazing facts on our boys and their commitments toward cricket. I asked him about our chances of lifting the WC-07..on which he smiled and said that if we go to super-sixes...we should take it as getting the cup!!! He said he sees the WC coming to Pakistan after at least five more!!!!!!!!!!
He was savvy of Inzy. He had, earlier, through Osman Samiuddin, sent me a message that I should seriously talk to Inzy to change himself and be more committed towards his game. You'll see the copy n paste of his email in my next cascade.

After dinner--as I was to drop him back at the PC, we drove towards Clifton Bridge..and just then he said that he faintly remembers the surrounding as he has lived in Karachi decades back when his Dad was posted here. I asked him to give me some indicators...he said it was around some old mansion near the sea. I turned the car towards MOHATTA PALACE area--near Old Clifton and took him there---and he sort of recognized a block of apartments near Aunty's park--which were indeed very old but solidly made. I took his pics there and later dropped him off.

BOB Woolmer was one of the finest person I had ever come across in cricketing world. Totally a committed professional and very straight with no procastination and rubbish talk. He termed JM as one of the best cricketers he has known. On IK, he was all praises but restrained to answer when I coughed up the intricacies between JM & IK.

*Asif Iqbal says that Bob & his wife Gill, were one of the best couples Asif had ever come across. *

I remember Bob said, when asked by Saad, about the most exciting thing for the opener on facing the first ball......"Its the second ball...one should watch out!!" said Woolmer.

-Raju

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OKAY…this was the FIRST ever mail (response) I received from BOB when I BCC’d my mail cascaded to the Pakistani_Cricketwallas Yahoogroups.
See…the SINGLE word response to my mail;

Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:14:41 -0500
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details
Subject: Re: Fact or Myth…??? Pak v/s England Series-2005 (5th ODI at Rawalpindi)
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]

Myth!

Bob Woolmer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Raju <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
To: PCW <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
Sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:01:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Fact or Myth…??? Pak v/s England Series-2005 (5th ODI at Rawalpindi)

“If its a MYTH, bring it to me in a bottle! If a fact, bring HIM to me in chains” was what the Pharoah Setti said to his son Ramses when the latter disclosed of having found the ‘deliverer’ (TEN COMMANDMENTS..the movie of 50’s)

(Name with-held on request)… called me last night and asked me if I were in knowledge of reasons WHY we lost the 5th & final ODI at Pindi… to Saxons? I said… possibly due to some key players like Inzi & Shoaib held back! She said “NO” and ‘disclosed’ that the real reason behind our ‘particular’ defeat was the fact that IF England had lost… INDIA would have got skittled out of the ensuing ICC CHAMPIONS TROPHY-2006 (due to some technical/formulae/points… reasons..HENCE, she said, we Pakistanis being “Good Neighbor Sam” decided to help INDIA here in such way!!!

Cant say whether its a MYTH or FACT???

Cheers,
-Raju

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Interesting....very interesting indeed. :)

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*Oh my God, you are such an insider. I'm impressed.

Now close this idiotic thread.*

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SOME MORE “YAADEIN” OF EMAIL EXCHANGES WITH LATE BOB WOOLMER…

**Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 08:55:05 -0400
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details
Subject: Re: [Pakistani Crickwallas] Reverse Sweep
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] **

Oh Goody plenty of critics there!
**Bob

Bob Woolmer
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-----Original Message-----
From: ArJay <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
To: Raju Jamil <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
Sent: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 08:15:48 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Fwd: [Pakistani Crickwallas] Reverse Sweep**
**Fyi…also.

REGARDS,

RAJU**
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Raza Gheewala <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]> wrote:
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
From: Raza Gheewala <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 02:17:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Pakistani Crickwallas] Reverse Sweep
My show Reverse Sweep will be airing on HUM TV at 10:30pm from July 13th. We’re going on air LIVE everyday after each days play to bring you detailed analysis of the days play. The panel of experts consists of Javed Miandad, Imran Khan, Ramiz Raja and Qamar Ahmed. Do tune in and send your comments at [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]. You can also call and leave a question for Miandad. For details please watch the promos already on air on HUM TV or tune into your favourite radio station for our Radio spots.

Regards,
Raza A. Gheewala

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:46:33 -0500
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details
Subject: Re: Rich Wishes ----> True grants!!
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
…Or Chelsea football club

Bob Woolmer
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
To: Rocker <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
Sent: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:32:49 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Rich Wishes ----> True grants!!

Once upon a time, a Sultan was blessed with the birth of a son after years of hoping. The boy immediately became the apple of his father’s eye.Just before his son’s sixth birthday, the Sultan said to him, “Son, I love you very much. Your birthday is coming soon. What would you like?” His son replied, “Daddy, I would like to have my own airplane.”
His father bought him American Airlines.

Just before his son’s seventh birthday, the Sultan said, “Son, you are my pride and joy. Ask what you want for your birthday. Whatever it is, it’s yours.” His son replied, “Daddy, I would like a boat.”
His father bought him the Princess Cruise Line.

Just before his son’s eighth birthday, the Sultan said, “Son, you bring so much happiness into my life. Anything you want, I shall get for you.” His son replied, “Daddy, I would like to be able to watch cartoons.”
His father bought him Disney Studios.

Just before his son’s ninth birthday, the Sultan said, “Son, you are my life. Your birthday is coming soon. Ask what you wish. I will get it for you.” His son, who had grown to love Disney, replied, “Daddy, I would like a Mickey Mouse outfit and a Goofy outfit”

His father bought him the Democratic Party and CNN news.

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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:45:12 -0500
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details
Subject: Re: A BEAUTIFUL ANALOGY!
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Did the bearded tramp have enough money for the Barber? Would the Barber have done it for free? God heals us all for free! Religion is expensive!

Bob Woolmer
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-----Original Message-----
From: RayAlifJeemWow <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
To: Raju Jamil <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:06:01 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: A BEAUTIFUL ANALOGY!

A BEAUTIFUL ANALOGY!
A man went to a barbershop to have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work, they began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things and various subjects.
When they eventually touched on the subject of God, the barber said: “I don’t believe that God exists.”
“Why do you say that?” asked the customer.
“Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither suffering nor pain. I can’t imagine a loving God who would allow all of these things.”

The customer thought for a moment, but didn’t respond because he didn’t want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the customer left the shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and unkempt.
The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said to the barber: “You know what? Barbers do not exist.”
“How can you say that?” asked the surprised barber. “I am here, and I am a barber. And I just worked on you!”
“No!” the customer exclaimed. “Barbers don’t exist because if they did, there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like that man outside.”
"Ah, but barbers DO exist! " answered the barber. “What happens, is, people do not come to me.”
“Exactly!” - affirmed the customer. “That’s the point! God, too, DOES exist! What happens, is, people don’t go to God and do not look for God.
That’s why there’s so much pain and suffering in the world.”**

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SOME EXCHANGES WHEN “DARYL HAIR” EPISODE STARTED DURING PAKISTAN’S LAST TOUR OF ENGLAND…WHERE THE PAKISTANI_CRICKETWALLAS YAHOOGROUP…PLAYED ITS COGENT ROLE;

Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 03:02:46 -0400
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details
Subject: Re: Ball controversy being hatched by British at OVAL !
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]

Thanks for your support, the PCB Chairman has registerd his protest over Hair’s umpiring in the past but they continue to send him to do our games. His actions yesterday were completely out of order and in my opinion he should be removed from the elite umpiring panel.
Bob

Bob Woolmer
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Sent: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: Ball controversy being hatched by British at OVAL !

Mr.Woolmer, we do agree with Inzi’s and our own extreme frustration. My point is that such action or tactic to finger our boys…by Darryl Hair was not FIRST of its kind! we have seen how ugly he has been with us…in past matches THEN what steps has the PCB taken to register its protest in past at any point or they were still holding meetings and discussions to decide what to do??? Is there any memo, letter, petition, protest or something on record? NO..I guess otherwise THIS was the time that the copies of those letters etc (to the ICC on Hair) could have been placed on the faces of the ICC saying “look, we protested earlier also..and no result..hence any sane person would adopt such act like our boyz did”.

Daryyl Hair has UMPIRED his last! or at least he cant UMPIRE us in future…that’s for sure! and if ICC hangs with its future decisions to make Hair umpire Pakistan in any of the forthcoming match..then the culprit, for me, is the ICC and under such circumstances, PAKISTAN should quit the ICC.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! I MEAN REALLY ENOUGH!!! ICC has to be UNBIASED and mind ICC that the forthcoming World Cup will loose its entire charm if INDIA, PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH & SRI LANKA back our..because henceforth..its going to be my policy & efforts to make PAKISTAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH & SRI LANKA come to conclusion that the ICC is out there for AUSTRALIA & ENGLAND only..otping in others like us for the REVENUES only!!

PCB has very very very POOR lobby at International level! for its boyz and cricket. We should have someone who must remain in loop with the ICC and the influencing cricket bigwigs ALL the time projecting PAKISTAN tactfully. But that requires seriousness…which the PCB is miles away from. For them…the stance of an OSTRICH at each TEST and ODI… is the best!

Good decision by INZAMAM…even if for TEN seconds!

Mr. HAIR needs a hair cut!

Mr. Woolmer, your mini-statement or reply…is welcome but only IF PCB had a strong MEDIA person who, while at the OVAL, had sent mail to hundred of thousand people in the country and the sportswriters…tactfully protecting PAKISTAN’s stance by supporting it…then I reckon..things could ave or may have been much in ur favor. I know what VENOM BRITISH MEDIA will spit in its 20th Aug issues and IF I were there to even watch this match on my own…by now I would have corresponded an conveyed to over half of he world that how biased the ICC is that Mr. HAIR has been encouraged to continue finger a brown team..out of the deep hatred Mr. Malcolm Speed ( I know this since my Australia visit of 1999 as our Media Manager…and I remember how he hid his disgust and almost when he froze upon my action of persuading Carl Raekman to write in favor of Shoaib Akhtar..who was under fire on chucking allegation then…) and I find Mr. Speed still heavily OVERCAST on ASIAN cricketing nations…and NOW the time has come that PAKISTAN, INDIA, BANGLADESH & SRI LANKA should put their foot down on the ICC to stop the racial bias!!
JEEVAY JEEVAY JEEVAY PAKISTAN
-Raju (Karachi)

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[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] wrote:
Simply Darryl Hair and Billy Doctrove said that we had changed teh ball and by inference have accused us of cheating/ball tampering. The team are extremely upset aboutthis inference and decided to register a protest. In the Interests fo cricket in general they are now willing to play but Darry Hair refuses to go on!
Bob

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Sent: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Ball controversy being hatched by British at OVAL !
Precisely at 6:35 pm this day..I was amazed and taken aback when the commentators with Ramiz also be.. started hatching or over playing the group of (off ground) umpires bally hoo about the BALL tampering by our boyz.

Ramiz showed clear but restrained signs of anger by saying that if this accusation is raised.. it will be a very serious one!

INDEED it will be! and if Shehryar Saheb has any respect for our boyz and the country…my suggestion would be to IMMEDIATELY call off the England Tour of Pakistan and ask the team to return home and exit from the membership of ICC.

What we now see is hat some conspiracy to suddenly CHANGE the ball with some other used one has suddenly braced the ENGLISH and are now laying comfortably!

WE MUST ADMIT THAT..WE HAVE:
WEAK MEDIA SUPPORT…
WEAK MANAGER (Zaheer Abbas)
WEAK MANAGEMENT WHICH CAN RAISE ITS VOICE! INTERNATIONALLY.
WEAK OPERATING OFFICER ZAIDI WHO THINKS HE IS SOME “GUNG HO” AND INCOMPARABLE.
PAKISTAN CRICKET BOARD…get a life! STOP PAKISTANI CRICKET from embarassment!

At least I AM NOT GOING TO STAND THIS BULL**** EMBARASSMENT!!! OF OUR BOYZ AT THE HANDS OF BRITISHERS OR FOR THAT MATTER…ANYONE!!! AND I WILL ENSURE THAT I KEEP ON REMINDING OUR CB AND KEEP ON EMBARASSING ENGLAND, THE ICC AND ALL THOSE WHO HATCH AND SECRETLY KEEP FRACTURING OUR IMAGE IN SOME DIRTY WAY OR THE OTHER!!!

THEY MUST HAVE A VERY VERY VERY STRONG MEDIA TEAM TO IMMEDIATELY CRUSH SUCH NONSENSE ON INTERNATIONAL LEVEL!

Sikander Bakht, Javed Miandad, Amer Sohail or others…while talking and discussing cricket and such follies of ENGLISH rascals working against PAKISTAN will be talking to us only and not INTERNATIONALLY… we need someone to be THERE at the SITE and CLOBBER these milky ones!! if they act, hatch or talk so dirty against us…our boyz and our great country PAKISTAN.

Its ALL PCB’s fault not to concentrate on MEDIA… and just concentrate on FIVE STAR HOTELS, BUSINESS CLASS TRAVELS AND FUN & FROLIC AT COUNTRY’S EXPENSE !!! what bull****!

-Raju

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BOB WOOLMER MARHOOM ON INZY…

From: “Osman Samiuddin” <@com>
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Subject: woolmer
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:56:06 +0500

Raju Bhai this is what he said

I know you are in contact with the Raju family as I get a host of emails from them daily. and I have received one follwoin there conversation with Inzi. I

Towards the last week of the tour Inzamam became very defensive and took over control of everything from Bus timings to practice and he took on total responsibility for deciding the team and what happened after the toss.

I took on board that he was under great stress but believe that it is unhealthy if he tries to become a one-man show.

If we are to do well at the World cup Inzamam needs help and he needs to start trusting his coach again. I have stood up for him and backed him in every way but feel marginalised by him on too many occasions now.
I am going to speak to him but if Raju and family know him, it would be nice of them to stress the importance of taking on sound advice for two years we have worked well together and there were too many bad moments on the England tour and it needs to be put right if we are to do well.

I am sure Inzamam does not understand some of my actions but does not discuss them with me. I have no political motivation, I have only one job and that is to make the team the best I can. I am very pleased with Mushy’s appointment and I am hoping that he will remain with us until April 28th.

I reiterate that this is strictly off the record with only the information that I have given you to be used to help Pakistan cricket not hinder it.

Kind Regards

Bob

Osman Samiuddin
Pakistan Editor, Cricinfo
www.cricinfo.com

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THIS MAIL FROM SAAD SHAFQAT…WAS TWO DAYS BEFORE INZAMAM LEFT FOR LONDON TO APPEAR BEFORE THE ICC JURY ON DARYL HAIR ISSUE.
ON A LIGHTER NOTE…THE FINAL PARA OF SAAD’s MAIL RELATING TO WHAT INZY SAID TO ME–HAS A BACKGROUND DATING BACK TO OCT-99 WHEN I ACCOMPANIED THE TEAM TO UAE & AUSTRALIA.. AND THIS EPISODE OF THE ‘BRITISH GIRL’ EXTENDS TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS THIS PRETTY GIRL PLAYING PIANO AT HOTEL’S LOBBY (we were lodged in Dubai Rainassance) WHEN I WENT & SAT BESIDE HER..AND STARTED PLAYING THE KEYS ON THE TUNE OF MY FAV. NUMBER “CE SERA SERA WHATEVER WILL BE WILL BE” SHE WAS PLAYING. INZY WAS NEXT TO ME (Raju);

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very interesting..keep them coming Raju bhai..definetly worth reading.

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BOB on “the Tale of Two Bowlers”…

Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 04:03:41 -0500
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details
Subject: Re: Saqlain
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]

Indeed saqlain is a fine bowler, unfortunately his firness after his two knee operations keeps him away from the team by his own admission.
Bob

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SOME MORE FROM WOOLMER MARHOOM ON CRICKET:

To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Subject: Re: cricket
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 23:08:43 -0400
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details

There are a number of issues here. In my experience any team that has the myriad of disruptions that this team has faced and then plays against a powerful seam attack on a difficult pitch  will probably crumble more than it will succeed.

It is unreasonable to think that we would win the champions trophy after the last two months! We tried our best which was clearly not good enough.
The players are mature in certain ways but very immature in others. Reality checks are seen as a personal insult. We will keep trying to help and get it right and rebuild confidence levels.
Lets hope our adminstration which was fine and now has changed can settle down and support the team.
Bob

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]; [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected];
Sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: cricket

BOB’s reply below;

WHILE I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU…BOB (and that’s why I called you after the match and we spoke of what you say here).. the message from the Chairman-PCB Dr.Nasim Ashraf (with whom I had a good ten minute tele-discussion) is that the boys played very bad. Nevertheless, no looking back now, said he, and that we should forge ahead…to prepare for West Indies and South Africa series—plus the great task on WORLD CUP,

The Pakistani_Cricketwallas foremost task…now is to do something miraculous to bring back SA & MA somehow and I need the help of PCWs like Saad Shafqat, Osman Samiuddin, Ali Minai, Imran Ali, Waseemul Islam, Raza Gheewalla, Omar Noman and Murtaza Qasuri here…

Our team is no peanuts! they are world class and these things happen in cricket. They happened with us earlier to the World Cup-1992 also but we did lift it!!!

Our duty is to keep the moral of our team high!

Rishad (DAWN) and Osman (Cricinfo)…please be softly harsh!

I would still BOB HOPE! then James Cagney!

Cheers----Raju

[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] wrote:
At 42-5 the ball went soft and out of shape! Our batting was less than ordinary! poor performance don’t blame the skipper too much he did his best.
Bob

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]; [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected];
Sent: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: cricket

AMAZING…SIMPLY A.M.A.Z.I.N.G !!!

SA—> 0/2, 68/5..ENDING UP 213/8 !!!

THIS “YK” IS A DODO!!!

WHY DID HE KEPT “UMAR GUL” FOR THE LAST OF THE OVERS??? IS THE QUESTION WHICH HAS THOUSAND ANSWERS!!! FROM YK’S CLAN ONLY!!

NOW WE ARE ONE DOWN IMMEDIATELY…!!

BOB…is there a “HOPE”?

-Raju

Raju <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]> wrote:
sadiq siddiqi former Director-Engineering & Corporate Planning at PIA, is partially settled in USA. He spends a few months in Pakistan and then back to his sons at Houston, Dallas and Chicago.
A great cricket buff/follower…

YES Mannu Bhai, I posted almost a similar ques …as to why is “Y” so reactive? and is there anything funny behind the scenes..back at the dressing room. I see a HUGE contrast in the first one “Y” captained and we won at Jaipur…and the one we lost (strangely) at Mohali yesterday?
There’s something…very funny going on..!!

Your query can perhaps be pondered by Bob..the only person we can converse with because there is no MEDIA sort of thing in our PCB and they care two hoots for that and that’s why such thoughts take birth…!!

Salams…Raju

Sadiq Siddiqi <[EMAIL=“[email protected]”]@yahoo.com> wrote:
Losing a match is part of the game --( 99 runs in last TEN )

BUT

Please advise as to why Hafeez who bowled so well against Sri Lanka was not given the BALL against Newzealand when every bowler was being slogged ???

Is the rumor that after the first match, Hafeez is believed to have said to some media that he was called on to bowl LATE and Yunis came to know of it ?

If true , and Capt. reacts like this to punish by not giving him the ball in the next match, is the CAPT fit to be a Captain???

Munnoo Bhai

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MEMORIES OF THE FIRST MATCH OF THE FIRST “TWENTY20” AT SOUTH AFRICA:

To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Subject: Re: The First TWENTY20 at South Africa-2 Feb-07 Friday
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:03:14 -0500
From: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected] View Contact Details

It was an abject display and hopefully a good wake up cal I have been worried by our two senior player all-rounders for some time now. Lets see what happens - As usual try not to over react!

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To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]; [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected];
Sent: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 6:32 PM
Subject: The First TWENTY20 at South Africa-2 Feb-07 Friday

WHAT WAS ALL THAT..JUST CONCLUDED WITH A BLISTERING AND MOST EMBARASSING.. TEN WICKET DEFEAT WE FACED IN OUR (1st in England) 2nd TWENTY20 AGAINST THE ZULUS??? WAS IT A JOKE (THAT I AM FORCED TO USE THE FONT “Comic Sans MS”) OR WAS IT TO TEASE THE NATION BACK HOME!

HONESTLY…AT CERTAIN POINT I SERIOUSLY THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS SOME MATCH BEING PLAYED BY ‘KOTWAL BUILDING’ KARACHI XI WITH AUSTRALIA..!!! :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

BOB…EXPERIMENTS ARE GOOD BY TAKING CHANCES BUT THE BODY LANGUAGES OF THE BOYS EXHIBIT TOTAL DISCONNECT…!!! SHOULD WE REALLY STOP (EVEN) DREAMING OF DOING SOMETHING GOOD IN KAALU-LAND DURING THE WORLD CUP…?? I WAS IN DISCUSSION WITH WASIM AKRAM LAST WEEK AND WHAT HE TOLD ME…HAS BEEN WELL CASCADED BY “DAWN” A DAY BACK… IN WHICH HE EXTENDED THE HONOR BY TERMING OUR TEAM AS DARK HORSES FOR THE WORLD CUP-07 !!
Tsk Tsk Tsk…WHEN WILL WE MATURE & WHEN WILL THERE BE A DOOSRA JANAM OF IMMO & JM…??? IN PAK-CRICKET IS THE QUES I POSE YOU ALL…

-Raju

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Re: What Bob Woolmer had to say on INZY & the boys at Pak-Crick

FINALLY…Goodbye Bob!!

From: “Asif Iqbal” <[EMAIL=“asifiqbal@v”]asifiqbal@> View Contact Details
To: [EMAIL=“[email protected]”][email protected]
Subject: FW: Bob Woolmer
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:19:49 -0000

My friend Bob
Asif Iqbal

I was struck dumb when I heard the sad news about the
demise of my good friend Bob Woolmer in Jamaica on
Sunday. He was en excellent cricketer, an excellent
coach and most important of all, an excellent human
being.

I played a lot of cricket with him at Kent and never
do I remember anyone having an argument with him. To
his immense credit, he even managed to keep that
record when in the year 2004 he became the coach of
the Pakistan cricket team. He was in surroundings that
must have been totally foreign to him and one’s first
reaction on hearing the news of his appointment was to
wonder how on earth he was going to cope, given the
very obvious language barrier. He not only coped, but
perhaps better than any other coach the Pakistan team
has ever had.

The reason for that was his utter decency. His
commitment, sincerity, honesty of purpose and
dedication were so obvious that even his most bitter
critics - most of whom were his critics for no better
reason than that they themselves fancied the job -
could not deny any of these qualities.

The Pakistan coach’s job is a mainly man management
position and Bob could handle people better than
anyone I have known. He knew that Pakistani players
had huge egos, that each one was still a different
player and a different human being from the other and
that therefore each needed a different approach. He
had the humility to comply with that requirement and
how well he did that.

He knew the importance of a congenial atmosphere in
the dressing room, something which the Pakistan side
has not always been blessed with. But even with such
fiery personalities as Shoaib Akhtar and Shahid
Afridi, Bob managed to create that atmosphere largely
due to his understanding and patience. He was dealing
with people half or less than half his age, from a
completely different background and of an educational
level that had nothing to do with his own public
school background, but his great ability to understand
the ramifications of all that made him Pakistan’s most
successful coach ever. It would only be in the fitness
of things if to honour his memory the National Cricket
Academy in Lahore was named after Bob, or if the PCB
took some other similar step like instituting an award
in his name, to mark the tremendous contributions he
made to Pakistan cricket

You could see how upset he was at Pakistan’s showing
in this World Cup, particularly the disgraceful defeat
at the hands of Irish part-timers. He must have known
what the repercussions of this would have been in an
emotionally volatile country such as Pakistan and what
sort of things would be said about him and about the
team; he was a professional who took his work very
seriously, who took pride in what he did and would not
have liked to leave his assignment on such a downer.
Whether or not that was the cause of his death, it
would almost certainly have been something that would
have worried him deeply.

Pakistan in particular and the cricketing world in
general will find it very difficult to fill the void
that Bob has left. While there may be a few who may
have his precise knowledge and understanding of the
game, there will be very very few who will able to
combine that with an understanding of the Pakistani
psyche and culture, who will be able to appreciate
just how big cricket starts are in Pakistan, what sort
of status they enjoy in their country and consequently
how to handle them.

This has been a disastrous World Cup campaign for
Pakistan - last all of four days - and there will be
immense anger at home. But people should understand
the immense pressures that are associated with sport
at this level and what sort of toll that pressure
takes. One understands and appreciates the huge
interest that cricket attracts in Pakistan and long
may it remain that way; but the feeling found among
many that those associated with the game take it all
flippantly without taking into account the public
emotions that accompany the side, are clearly wrong.
We are going through a period when cricketing talent,
especially batting talent is in short supply. In
framing our expectations from our cricketers this
basic factor should never be lost sight of.
In the end, I would like to offer my most sincere
condolences to Bob’s wife Gill, and their two sons for
their most tragic loss. All that I can say is they can
all be proud of Bob for the player that he was, for
the outstanding professional coach that he was, and
for the absolute gem of a human being that he was. May
his soul rest in eternal peace.

The writer is the former captain of Kent and Pakistan.