what are the factors that would lead you to end a relationship

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not to go off topic but I don't understand the concept of polygamy in Islam. Even though I consider myself muslim, I don't believe in it at all .. doesn't make sense how can you romantically love more than one person? I wonder if denouncing some aspect of Islam like this would still make me muslim

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^ Has been discussed several times. Please search related threads. :)

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Oh puhleez.

Real men move out? Man youre thick. Some individuals choose to take care of their parents in old age. They can manage the care and provide for the family they were born into and the family they made with their partner. Real dont run from responsibilities.

Some men cant move out because their income helps keep the house afloat. They stay around. They may not always want to. But they do it because its important.

Im not saying men who move out arent real men. They have a situation with their family where its best suited for them to move out. And thats fine.

Im saying some men cant move out. How can you say they arent real men?
Same goes for women. Some can some cant.

Your crime, is one of ignorance.

OP: it would be have to infidelity, lack of respect and ordering chicken schnitzel at a restaurant. The latter shows her utter disregard for money. Why order a massive chicken nugget?

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Nothing at all.

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Who said that Islam has forced anayone to marry more women. Islam just restricted unlimited marriages which were going on in that society. Islam did not prohibit multiple marriages but discouraged divorce. Allowing for 2nd marriage instead of divorcing a lady and then re-marrying is based on the fact that then women used to be way more dependent on men (and majority still is even now). Islam didnt only have to satisfy people living in west and/or leading a financially better life and thinking why is it allowed and they dont agree. Islam also had to take careof people on the poorer side. It is an available option for those people who really need it for any reason (including start liking someone else too). Islam doesnt prohibit anything unless it is really really bad for individual or society like interest and alcohol (and neither is pork healthy in anyway). Apart from that, its the balance and middle line which needs to be followed.

By the way, you are not alone in saying they dont agree to something which they dont like, many people just follow whatever suits them, and what they dont want to obey, they bring up one excuse or the other. For example, I know many people living in Australia (where Halal is available almost at doorstep) still going for other meat. Or Alcohol and coming up with one reason or the other.

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Again, its not our right or responsibility to marry multiple times, its an option available not to go towards divorce for many humanly possible reasons.

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not many women agree with your statement. is divorce really worse than having more than 1 wife? I would rather be divorced than let my husband have another wife. but that's just me, to each his own..

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Depends on women. and their background. If women belong to poor family or with other issue, she may like to stay in marriage more than getting rid of it. Not all women are same. People in real life face too many things. Can you comprehend everyone's problems and issues ?

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Yeah well if you keep subjugating women and treating them like second class citizens, maybe tolerating a second wife would be better than a divorce and getting kicked out of your home with no roof over your head and kids taken from you.

We sort of have had like what? A couple of centuries to fix the issue of subjugating our women, but apparently some parts of the world are still stuck in 600 AD and so polygamy lives on.

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Arabs don't have a problem with it.

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I personally dont want to marry 2nd time. But I can understand the WHATIF scenarios that can arise which Islam have taken care of in this. Divorce is very unwanted case and Islam could forbid from divorce, but Islam didn't because there can be so many situations where that is the best option available. Why to put people in misery by putting undue restrictions.

Islam didnt want men to marry unrestricted number of women as the traditions were at the time. Instead Islam came up with a middle scenarios and put severe conditions on it so as men dont abuse this facility. (Well men do it all the time for sure for their own pleasure just like every other thing).

I am not some religious person. I just try to pray whenever I can. Atleast I chat with women all the time. Nothing good about me probably. But I know Islam has nothing illogical in it. Now I am convinced on this. I know Islam is not like any other religion. Islam gives complete way of life, whether I follow or not is a seperate thing. And no it didnt get old with time. I have no reason to believe in that. Moderate people still find the best answers. Look at the new muslim women and look at how they accept Islam, they dont complain about Islam being subjugating women, they believe that Islam is giving them their rights and thats why they are turning to Islam and stopping unlimited fun all the time.

And by the way, Islam is not subjugating women as second class citizens. Women have same rights in Islam as men. In any society, women and kids take men's name, not just Islam, if women were allowed 2 husbands simultaneously, who was the father of the child by the way ?

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did you not read my last sentence, I said 'to each his own'. i mentioned FOR ME divorce is much better than tolerating polygamy. i view it as humiliating and insulting to womankind. again this is MY view. cannot speak for all women. but i'm pretty sure many women don't like the idea of polygamy either but put up with it because they don't have a choice.

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I disagree completely. i can argue each point. however, im assuming that will get me banned

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Well, you are not the only liberal there. We have quite a few especially working hard on tv channels to make the nation open minded.

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And strange that someone will block you for making your point clear.

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Arab women come from mars.

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Everyone is different. and they have different circumstance. So Islam probably couldnt give a ruling based on the fact that some women will in future think like this.

Waisay bhee, as long Islam agrees and allows what you do is good, as soon as it has something against your mood and wish, its wrong. Thats the approach of too many people. They simply say, mei aisay Islam ko nahi maantaa. too common of a sentence in our society. But good thing is that new muslims take Islam as it is and they can see positives in it.

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Almost everyone says deal breaker is infidelity, yet most of temper tantrums thrown here don't involve infidelity.

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Very valid point.

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I guess that is because it infidelity is a deal breaker..no one would waste time talking about it and asking advices...one would juts end a relationship.

my thinking..