What a proud moment for Pakistan

[muqawwee123]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@Princejall

we never said, Qadyanies are bad, we are saying , they are not muslim, simple, but u are trying to be smart, here.

You are justifying desecration of their graves and still I’m being smart when I’m trying to understand this love-hate relationship. :halo:

[Pakistani_Prince]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@muqawwee123

You are justifying desecration of their graves and still I’m being smart when I’m trying to understand this love-hate relationship. :halo:

we are not Justifying desecration of anyone’s grave, we are Justifying the truth. Joth , dokha and fruad will not be allowed anywhere ( including on graves..) R.I.P muqawa , ap ki ego ,Logic say bhri ha.

[muqawwee123]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@Princejall

we are not Justifying desecration of anyone’s grave, we are Justifying the truth. Joth , dokha and fruad will not be allowed on graves.. R.I.P muqawa , ap ki ego ,Logic say bhri ha.

Justifying violence and talking of logic. :halo:

Violence has no logic, how much you think your violence justified (be it desecration of graves or killing of innocent people).

[ajazali]

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@muqawwee123

BTW, if Ahmadis are that bad, don’t respect our Prophet, why Allama Iqbal (Aashiq e Rasool) appointed an Ahmadi guardian of his children?

I would say onething, Iqbal ki shayri Liberals nae hazam kar sktay Ahmadis kia karen gy. btw, what is the source of what you say?

[muqawwee123]

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@ajazali

I would say onething, Iqbal ki shayri Liberals nae hazam kar sktay Ahmadis kia karen gy. btw, what is the source of what you say?

‘Apna gareban Chaak’ by Javed iqbal. Iqbal’s elder brother was an Ahmadi.

[ajazali]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@muqawwee123

‘Apna gareban Chaak’ by Javed iqbal. Iqbal’s elder brother was an Ahmadi.

does Javed iqbal mention some document as proof?

[muqawwee123]

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@ajazali

does Javed iqbal mention some document as proof?

hamare mashriq main maarre huwe baap per tohmat to kami kameenon main na-paid hai, yahan Allama ke apne bete ka zikr ho raha hai

[ajazali]

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@muqawwee123

hamare mashriq main maarre huwe baap per tohmat to kami kameenon main na-paid hai, yahan Allama ke apne bete ka zikr ho raha hai

mashriq main aik aur kahawat bhi mashoor hai. Achon se buray aur buron se achay b paiday hotay hain. Ye Allah ki hikmat hai.

[muqawwee123]

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@ajazali

mashriq main aik aur kahawat bhi mashoor hai. Achon se buray aur buron se achay b paiday hotay hain. Ye Allah ki hikmat hai.

paida hona aur baat hai aur apne bachon ka guardian banana aur baat.. How come Allama made a person guardian of his children from those who don’t respect our Prophet?

[ajazali]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@muqawwee123

paida hona aur baat hai aur apne bachon ka guardian banana aur baat.. How come Allama made a person guardian of his children from those who don’t respect our Prophet?

Bring some document as proof. Javaid Iqbal cannot be trusted. He once said that sharab is not haram in Islam.

[hareem01]

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I know few ahmadis and they are very nice people…They are staunch supporters of palestine and are more active than Sunni Muslims. And I’ve never seen them disrespect the final prophet (saw)…although, there are lines being drawn by the sahaba and the early major scholars about the finality of the Prophet so there should be no debate about as to who’s muslim and who’s not. It’s quite clear.

What I find sad about it is that Ahmadis are treated differently to other non-muslim sects like Ismailis etc…there are no rules to stop preaching hatred against Ahmadis in mosques. They should be allowed to live their lives peacefully and with dignity.

[muqawwee123]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@ajazali

Bring some document as proof. Javaid Iqbal cannot be trusted. He once said that sharab is not haram in Islam.

sorry don’t have that much time. google and read books written by Iqbal’s own family.

[COLD_FIRE]

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@muqawwee123

BTW, if Ahmadis are that bad, don’t respect our Prophet, why Allama Iqbal (Aashiq e Rasool) appointed an Ahmadi guardian of his children?

There are two points here that u need to justify before u make this claim.

First, r we in defense of Ahmadis, or against it? Not stereotyping, but on contrary, religion wise.

Secondly, its obvious that Iqbal was for a part of his life affected by the ahmadi movement… but then he retracted from his stance completely. To me its a very bold step from Dr. Iqbal because to me he was right in the mid storm of a fitna, and somehow he was able to differentiate.

[muqawwee123]

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@hareem01

I know few ahmadis and they are very nice people…They are staunch supporters for palestine and are more active than Sunni Muslims. And I’ve never seen them disrespect the final prophet (saw)…although, there are lines being drawn by the sahaba and the early major scholars about the finality of the Prophet so there should be no debate about as to who’s muslim and who’s not. It’s quite clear.

What I find sad about it is that Ahmadis are treated differently to other non-muslim sects like Ismailis etc…there are no rules to stop preaching hatred against Ahmadis in mosques. They should be allowed to live their lives peacefully and with dignity.

This is what I have been saying in different threads since last week :k:

[ajazali]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@muqawwee123

sorry don’t have that much time. google and read books written by Iqbal’s own family.

family could have pressure or force to a member, but you just need to check with Iqbal’s peotry instead as it is the direct route.

[Krypton]

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musalman honay ka tamgha sirf princejall ko milta hai

[muqawwee123]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@COLD_FIRE

There are two points here that u need to justify before u make this claim.

First, r we in defense of Ahmadis, or against it? Not stereotyping, but on contrary, religion wise.

Secondly, its obvious that Iqbal was for a part of his life affected by the ahmadi movement… but then he retracted from his stance completely. To me its a very bold step from Dr. Iqbal because to me he was right in the mid storm of a fitna, and somehow he was able to differentiate.

I’m not against Ahmadis in religious meaning (blood thirsty), though they have different ideology on certain matters.

I just brought Iqbal’s reference and his appointment of an ahmadi as guardian of his children, because I want to convey that they do respect our Prophet like other sects. If this was not the fcat, Iqbal (aashiq e rasool) would have avoided making an ahmadi guardian of his children

[Southie]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

There was some liberal bashing going on. A liberal would allow anyone to claim adherence to any religion as said anyone pleases.

Bas.

[hareem01]

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@Southie

There was some liberal bashing going on. A liberal would allow anyone to claim adherence to any religion as said anyone pleases. Bas.

But, would a liberal allow a communist or conservative to be called a liberal? 

 

:@:

[Arleitter]

Re: What a proud moment for Pakistan

@Princejall

i never used these words, read my Post again.. As far as Dr. Abdul salam is concerned, he was “non muslim” Pakistani and i am happy that he won the award. There was genuine reason behind his award. He deserved it. We are pround of Dr.abdul salam. But malala and obama and other controversal muslims did nt do anything. They are dancing to their tune. So west bestowed award upon them..

Who said Obama is a Muslim?