… for we had ‘women walking behind men’ and ‘cousin marriage’ and so on and so forth.
Do we criticize them for their culture? Has any desi seriously questioned the process a woman has to go through to get married in their culture? She has to live with the guy for a considerable time before he (if ever) ‘pops the magic question’ and that too before being dumped and ‘broken up’ previous relationships. The simple act of ‘asking the question’ is framed as if he is doing a great service to humanity. Having answered the question positively, one has to wait for another considerable length of time before ‘he is ready’ for a marriage (if ever).
Does this mean the woman stoops down to the level of a w***e for getting her man? Most of us don’t think so and accept it as a part of their culture.
When they criticize ours, should we feel inferior?
About criticizing western culture, I think Pakistani stories, media, everything is full of it, isnt it? I mean the term 'westernization' aka 'modernization' is akin to decadence and depravity.
so yes, I think Pakistan and Pakistanis criticize western culture as much as pakistani cultural aspects may be criticized in the west.
. . . because they enslaved us for 100z of year and not the other way round . Slave mentality take generations to fade away . Read a little bit about black culture and the phases they went through .
so, as long as Pakistani women happily consent to marrying cousins or wearing niqab, others shouldn't be bothered, right?
I criticize their culture and when they criticize mine, I should not feel 'ashamed', right?
Why can't we realize that we are "different" (unless 'assimilated') and be comfortable with what we are?
its not about being ashamed but if there is a point then it must be considered.
just because something is or has become part and parcel of our culture does not make it right.
and this applies to all cultures.
If anything I see pakistani media shows positive 'attitude' towards western way of life.
Language, dressing, news of western singers, movie stars, oscar award etc. and persona of being educated and cultured attached to someone wearing three piece suit...even in hot weather. :)
If anything I see pakistani media shows positive 'attitude' towards western way of life.
Language, dressing, news of western singers, movie stars, oscar award etc. and persona of being educated and cultured attached to someone wearing three piece suit...even in hot weather. :)
ahh but u can be wearing a 3 piece suit in warm weather.. seer sucker or linen, with unconstructed or half lined jacket is perfect.
anyways, coverage of hollywood is a whole diff thing, its like saying just because people listen to bollywood filmi music all the time ppl dont criticize india. diff things mon ami.
its not about being ashamed but if there is a point then it must be considered.
just because something is or has become part and parcel of our culture does not make it right.
and this applies to all cultures.
seriously though thats a much deeper debate on whether right or wrong is based on some morality, societal norms, religion or what.
point being if someone criticizes generation after generation cousin marriages, maybe the person has a point, maybe the fact that you see so much more birth defects is something one should ponder rather than become flag waving defender of culture etc.
ahh but u can be wearing a 3 piece suit in warm weather.. seer sucker or linen, with unconstructed or half lined jacket is perfect.
anyways, coverage of hollywood is a whole diff thing, its like saying just because people listen to bollywood filmi music all the time ppl dont criticize india. diff things mon ami.
Yes, three piece can be worn but not when temp is 90 plus and the person is wearing woolen fabric...:)
I have seen people going out for dinner to eat Pizza or Burger in three piece suit and eat with forks and knife...!
I was merely talking about the media.
People have different opinion off course. This is based on cultural background.
This is just nature of people. Western criticize east, eastern criticize west.
Even western talk negative of many western 'cultural norms' and eastern criticize east.
West was at one time holding same values as east having values now a days and time is changing fast with globalization.
Showing ankles of women was a big no no in US in 50's. Dating without sex was norm then also. Men used to ask parent for girls rishta.
where in islam are cousin marriages 'encouraged' in islam?
yes of course intermarrying duplicate your chances of health issues and deformities, this is medically proven!
on an another note, most westerners are intruiged by the asian culture, they find it exotic and they love the food, its just the unculturtured narrow minded few westerners who've never been on a plane abroad to anywhere apart from ibiza or majorca that dump everyone in the same boat.
... for we had 'women walking behind men' and 'cousin marriage' and so on and so forth.
Do we criticize them for their culture? Has any desi seriously questioned the process a woman has to go through to get married in their culture? She has to live with the guy for a considerable time before he (if ever) 'pops the magic question' and that too before being dumped and 'broken up' previous relationships. The simple act of 'asking the question' is framed as if he is doing a great service to humanity. Having answered the question positively, one has to wait for another considerable length of time before 'he is ready' for a marriage (if ever).
Does this mean the woman stoops down to the level of a w***e for getting her man? Most of us don't think so and accept it as a part of their culture.
When they criticize ours, should we feel inferior?
why feel inferior? if someone criticizes on my face .... i get back at them ... if they dont get it ... i just say ... how ignorant! .. and then move on ..