West Indies India T20 WC Semi Final

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This is what happens when Dhoni promotes himself without giving chance to others even in meaningless bilateral matches. With say 8 overs or 6 over to go, he will come in ahead of the Pandyas and the Rayadus and the Pandeys and the Rainas.

Result - batsmen past number 3 don't get chances in game situation.

Today was Pandyas turn..he hits big shots. And also runs well. But Dhoni had to come in. If not for 2 overthrow runs he would have 13 runs off 9 balls. Not great with 5 overs onky to go and 8 wickets in hand.

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Every time I dia loses I think of an old guppy who coined this phrase

Congratulations to all the Muslims of this world.

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East Indian eats fish
North Indian eats chapati
South Indian eats rice
West Indian eats dhokla

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Usne toh shayad mintos kha ke ab tak apne dimaag ki batti jala li ho..

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Batsmen do ballaybaji and fans do batolaybaji :bukbuk:

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I don't think you can really blame the batting. 192 appeared to be a very secure total at the halfway mark. The bowlers should have been able to defend this huge total in home conditions. Credit to the Windies batsmen who made them look ordinary yesterday. They did not give up despite losing Gayle early

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When you no longer have spinners like Kumble, Bedi you can't blame dew or anything. Jab apke pas achchha senior spinner Bhajji ho toh use khilana chahiye.

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Some people need to stop being so hyper sensitive and upset when it comes to India.

India-Pakistan rivalry is one of the most intense rivalries in sports. Forget that, in Europe, have you ever seen the celebration when rival clubs lose? Barcelona and Real Madrid are the football clubs of the same country, Liverpool and Manchester United are football clubs of the same country, but the fans celebrate like crazies when the rival club is knocked out, and all this happens despite the absence of any political tensions.

Historically West Indies have been a very well liked team in Pakistan. Probably the second most favourite team after the home team, I doubt the celebration would have been same if it was New Zealand or Australia kicking out India. So there was genuine support for the West Indian side in Pakistan, and is there anything wrong with that?

However, people in media should behave professionally at all times. You can't moral police the average Joes in the street and decide when they should and shouldn't celebrate!

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congratulations to the Muslims or not. One thing is for sure, Pakistani 'bad duain' is the major reason for this upset. I hope Windies lift the cup now.

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Just occurred to me after reading your post baddua and bad (English bad) dua mean the same. What are the odds

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We can blame the batting. Dhoni tendency to promote himself over others when it comes to death came to bite us. On one hand Dhoni acknowledges he is not the finisher of old. Hence he spoke of coming in 2 down to give himself time to build an inning (a term one should hate in T20 cricket for a number 4 batsman). OK. If 2 wickets fall fast , I can understand Dhoni coming in to steady the inning.

Yesterday when 2 wickets felll, only 5 overs remained. By Dhonis own logoc, since he is no longer the hitter of old, he shoukd have sent a Raina.or Pandya. Who can actually hit from the get go. Especially Pandya. He had 15 9fff 9 balls. Two were due to misfield. Not great for last 5 innings.

Even in small matches he does this..ALWAYS promotes himself. Rather than give others chance to succeed or fail.

There are players such as Shreyas Iyer and Karun Nair who have done exceptionally well in the domestic circuit. They don't even get a peek. While the Dhawans Rainas get chance after chance after chance

With 5 overs to go, there was no sense of urgency. Dhoni had onky one 4 in 9 balls. Not good.

In the last ball, Kohli could have gone for a 2nd. He was too busy raising his bat.

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That wasnt a upset by any means. It was just a terrific chase. WI playing a T20 exactly the way it should be. That is, despite getting early blows just keeping progressing with the score. If you notice their running between the wickets wasnt that great. May be becuz they never wanted to take chances, rightly so. So it was all boundries.

Now did Indian bowlers do anything wrong? Absolutely no. Nehra and Bumrah were awesome in the first overs. The only two paisa bowler they have is Pandya. But in the end its a great batting when u see batsmen in death overs are having first 3 dot balls and hitting 12 off rest of the three.

Btw, result wouldnt have changed but giving the last over to Kohli was a terrible idea. We know why they did it but no, thats like surrendering before it finishes.

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Agreed. Giving Kohli the last over was pathetic.

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Both the semifinals were won by the side batting second. Will the trend be repeated in the final? Will the toss be crucial? Windies probably start as slight favourites having beaten England in the Super 10 phase.

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There aint nobody who can celebrate better than West indies :slight_smile:

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Well, you can't help it. Zaheer Khan should have been given a proper fare well. He has single handedly won you many matches over a decade. No respected Muslim cricketer in recent history (35 years) of Indian cricket conveys a very clear message, while their population is more than sikhs. think

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Yae final jeetnay say pehlay hee champion ho gayee hain :slight_smile:

good luck to them…all the best guys

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I don't know about farewells. Not too many get it. I don't particularly care for farewells either. When you arendone, you are done.

I honestly didn't understand your next sentence re clear message. Can you explain what you mean?

The team appears to be weighed towards Punjabi or North players. Raina and Dhawan continue to fail and keep getting chances. Yuvraj had no business being in the team for last WC20 and this. So one can say that players from certain regions may have more gripe why the don't get a chance.

I do like Irfan Pathan. I can't answer why he hasn't been included. Swamy (you had a typo) to the best of my knowledge had a serious injury. You lose credibility when you speak of injuries as some sort of a plot.

Jai Sri Ram.

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Perhaps India could have got a few more runs in the end but 192 was a potentially match-winning total. Bowlers just did not perform (or were not allowed to..)

I do not have the stats to hand but I would think that 190-plus is a match-winning total 90% of the time in T20 cricket.

Had the target been 10-15 runs bigger, Windies batsmen might have accelerated even more from the start but they might have also lost more wickets in the process. No one can say with absolute certainty as to what might have happened. South Africa could not defend 229 against England in Super 10!

It is impossible to analyze games in hindsight. That said some of Dhoni's decisions do not make sense at all, like not bowling Ashwin's full quota of overs

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if 2 no-balls fetched 2 wickets, India would have been home. i think Ashwin should have bowled the last over instead of Kohli.

Lendl Simmons had 9 cat-lives that day...this doesn't happen everyday.

in short, WI was extremely lucky to win that day. 192 was a good total to defend.

Group 2 was easy. group 1 had giants like Australia, New Zealand and India. India made to the semi-finals and it was something that i didn't expect. India fared well but unluckily lost in the semis.

WI and England who got easy passage because Sri Lanka Sri Lanka was a weak link.