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**President Musharraf finally resigns; ill advised, surrounded and abandoned; he chose to take the path of least resistance. He tried to be dignified in defeat and recounted his victories and achievements but the sorry state is that his legacy is Zardari, NRO and a corrupt weak government in Islamabad with a country literally gone to dogs! **
**He is not leaving the country into strong hands, in fact in the hands of most corrupt, unscrupulous and dangerous criminals this country has ever produced. The regime change game which CIA had initiated about one year ago finally succeeds though his resignation remains only a milestone in the larger CIA game of taking over Pakistan’s premier intelligence service ISI. **

The CIA sponsored, PPP executed, U.S. backed attempted coup against ISI had begun to unfold a few weeks back with a new ruthless cut throat political strategy and a new target designation. This plan has the following landmarks to be achieved in rapid succession:
**Removal of President Musharraf. **
**Appointment of Mr. Zardari or his man as President. **
**Bringing ISI again under Ministry of Interior. **
**Complete take over of Pakistan’s security establishment by CIA. **
**There is no doubt that both U.S. and Britain are closely monitoring the moves of the army as the Army Chief is also a major hurdle in U.S. plans to bring ISI under MoI. With all the political parties in U.S. pocket, the army and the ISI are the next targets once the President has been annihilated. **
**Mr. Musharraf could have done better when he had decided to leave. He could have restored the judges to make life miserable for Zardari. He could have revoked the NRO to prevent Zardari from becoming the most powerful man in the country. He did neither and now Zardari is ecstatic and already planning to place his man, women or himself in the President house. **
**It is scavenging to the core by the political vultures and hyenas and now another battle will begin for the control of power centers in Islamabad. Judges will not be restored and governance will not improve. Fasten your seat belts for some very bumpy ride in the coming days. The present leadership is not just incompetent; they are outright dangerous for the country. Now they cannot blame Musharraf for their failures and treasons and army would be watching their moves carefully. **
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And CIA didn't support Musharraf till now?

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Benazir’s murder didnt quite fit into CIA’s scheme of things :hmmm:

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Completely and totally agree with you.

Just like to add, MQM was used by CIA through RAW (AH's masters). And MQM to a large extent is responsible for this messy end of Gen. Pervez Musharraf.

Conditions were created in order to make his government fall. No doubt he made wrong decisions at the worse times, and many of those, which lead to his fall. The major wrong decision being joining hands with the foreign financed and sponsored terrorist party MQM which still remains to control the new government now. So things are quite much the same if not worse with the civilian government in MQM's (hence, RAW & CIA's) pocket.

You hear everyone saying on TV that even with Musharraf around, there was NO HURDLE in restoring the judiciary and even now there is NO HURDLE. Then WHO is not letting that happen??? WHO and WHY??? Pakistani public needs to ponder over this.

The actual criminals remain in the country. Unless and until every single citizen of Pakistan unite against this fascist party, Pakistan has absolutely no hope.

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That is the story of Sindh only, what about rest of the country? Do they not need to do anything to improve the situation?

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why did the dumb awam elect these criminals and fascists in the first place. Now the need to unite to do what? Throw them out?

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You cant throw them out but you can repeat Rawanda's genocide.

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My dear,

They successfully exploited Musharraf to join hands with them. Wrong advices, bad morals (with regards to country's people) which affected the whole nation. As I've said earlier, "Musharraf's fall started when he let MQM represent him."

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Partly by force, partly exploitation of the uneducated and educated but stupid awam of Pakistan. That's the most unfortunate situation relatively sensible people need to work on.

By the way, I tend to believe that they also have some support from some traitors' of the Government also.

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And WHY Musharraf all of a sudden became 'bad' for RAW / CIA was because he attained imense support from the youth of Pakistan because of his realistic polices in ALL the areas. The key to success of any nation is its' youth united for ONE cause. So the only way to bring him down was to make him look like a 'bad guy' to Pakistani youth. Which sucessfully happened through MQM.

It's a sad but unfortunate truth. He was put in to so much pressure first by the international elements who hated to see Pakistan on a track towards development. And then the local pressure combined together to bring him down. Actually, what is sad is that he was exploited, had he not been exploited, he was the best thing that ever happened to Pakistan. With so much going on (his wrong decisions), definitely there was no good coming out of his rule anymore so he had to go. But all of that does not change the fact that we need to recognise the real snake whose living among us but causing this to the governments of Pakistan for 62 years either through the exploitation of the leaders or through exploitation of the general public of Pakistan or both.

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You are wrong, Musharraf didn't get wrong advise from MQM alone to affect the nation. There were likes of Chaudharies of Gujrat, people like Ejazul Haq, Fazlur Rehman. MQM is just one bad fish in the pond but to put all blame on MQM is ignoring other idiots in the game.

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And who is that snake living amongst us for 62 years?

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as far as my knowledge goes mqm was created in 80's. then i also like to know who is the snake living amongst us for 62 years.

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As bad as conspiracy theories go, this one goes well beyond dumb. CIA liked working with Musharraf and would prefer him anyday to the scum that's now rejoicing.

For all the good he did and meant to do, Musharraf's effect is that when he took over Nawas Sharief was hated in Pakistan - Now Nawas Sharief is the most popular politician in Pakistan.
The way is clear for the corrup zardari, greedy NS and aspiring Iftikhar to jointly loot and pillage.

And the people are actually celebrating? Do they realize they're celebrating the slide into an abyss for Pakistan?

And you come up with this CIA working through RAW working thru Nalouch working thru AH working thru something theories.

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ehtasab, looking at the bigger picture, all those names are insignificant. Such epopel are there in every government, every nation, every country. I would call them one of those many bad decisions by Musharraf to make a party consisting of these lotas to support him.

What I am referring to is the bigger issue and *fitna *that Pakistan faces today. If you wish remain blind on this issue, there is nothing I can do to make you see it.

The snake, TRAITORS of Pakistan for 62 years. We have one right in front of us, comitting all the criminal acts one can think of but yet so conveniently being allowed to commit fascist acts on Pakistani soil and nobody to catch him, why?? And he leads a Pakistani political party but sits in London and absolutely nobody to question, why?? Do you have any answers???

Do you know what Karachi used to be and what it has become now? Again LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE!!! A huge, thriving business hub for the whole of Pakistan. Now what is it? Are you aware of a single, story of ONE single family regarding how their business sufferred because of MQM? Im asking one SINGLE case. Then imagine ALL such cases of drowning business, economy and then collectively how those drowning economies contributed to the over all economy of the city??? All of that because of the dirty conditions created by MQM in not only the city of Karachi but the whole province.

Can you deny all of that and still prefer to remain ignorant to the fact how Pakistan desperately needs to rid this terrorist causing terror in Pakistan for decades now??? Go on... there's nothing I can do about it.

munda_khi, the nameless, faceless traitors who obviously kept changing with time but since in this date and time, this guy is a major issue of Pakistan, so we need to get rid of the trained criminals who support this bigger criminal (other than the jahil public, ofcourse). It is a good idea to reach his masters somehow but I wonder if that is even possible when this guy does not even live in Pakistan.

Tariq Akhtar, People need a reason to celebrate and there is nothing I can do anything to stop them. If the general public had any common sense, things would have been very different. It is the same people who think AH is their savior and it is the same people who vote for thugs over and over again. Can I do anything about it? No. I can only express my opinion but I cannot make anyone follow it. And my opinion is that MQM is a major problem of the province right now which has to be ridded if we wish to see a better Pakistan. Rest of the other problem can be ressolved after getting rid of this cancer.

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if you are talking about mqm then its not 60 years old (i think even altaf hussain is not 60 years old), it was created in late 80's. so you must be talking about something else. maybe i am not as smart as you, so if you don't mind, help me out in understanding who are those snakes.

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We should stop crying on water that has already passed the bridge. We should learn to cut the losses and think about future. Future is that Zardari is 'President of Pakistan' and his party with his puppet as 'Prime Minister' rules the country. His son, Prince Bilawal, is waiting to become Pakistani King. Zardari got his mandate until August 2013 and he would rule Pakistan as the most powerful person, Pakistani Ameer-ul-Momneen, till then. So, no need to get upset or antagonised.

Regardless of anyone personally like or trust Zardari or not, majority of Pakistanis voted for Zardari (directly or indirectly). Zardari got the votes of PPP as well as most other political parties. It is surprising that those who were trying to be champion of democracy few months back are same people who are talking against the result that democracy brought. When we have democracy and many of us wanted democracy so badly, than one should show their respect to democratically elected President. Whatever would happen to Pakistan is now in the hands of Zardari ... GOOD, BAD, or UGLY. If Pakistan would be in better state after 5 years than we would be lucky and if it would go down the drain than it is what we deserve.

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I heard Altaf Hussain has also vowed to become prince Zardari's new 'aya/nanny' in London.

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Dude, your hatred of one party is blinding you from cobras in the country. Do you know the cobras? Yes the likes of Ejazul Haq, Maulana Fazlur Rehman. Do you think I am having hard time accepting MQM as snake? I have no doubt Altaf Hussein is a traitor and should've been extradited to Pakistan for thousands of murderers by MQM alone.

I agree MQM has caused much damage to the province esp in 1986-1993 but likes of Maulana Fazlur Rehman are still danger to the country (Hint: Taliban and supporter/sympathiser of militants).

Just as fascism is destroying Karachi/Sindh militancy/terrorism by extremists is destroying the whole country not just at domestic level but also at international levels. Every Tom Dick & Harry has his guns out against Pakistan because of these fanatics.