We need a bold Musharraf

I saw this article and I feel that it really make some sense. Pakistan needs more stable and long term strong government than a sham democracy where bai-ghairat criminals get to power to loot and plunder poor Pakistan and than disappear to live in their palaces, be that palace in Pakistan or in London. Actually, what I would like to see is a system in Pakistan where corrupts do not go to prison but corrupts (once their corruption is proved) should get shot on spot and country needs development and progress more than democracy.

Those that have enough and whose table is full of various cuisines think more about democracy but unfortunately democracy in third world countries stops development and progress … and spreads nepotism, mismanagement and corruption. People who spend millions to get into power make sure that development and progress does not come to the country so that people stay poor and ignorant … and let them crooks keep getting elected even when they do every type of nepotism, mismanagement and corruption.

As for poor and uneducated, they have no choice. They are given perception that democracy is rule of poor but they could not understand that poor could not contest election as it takes millions to get known and contest elections. Hence democracy is rule of rich. These unfortunate poor wants to have good life as rich do but due to this perception, they stay poor while rich in politics get richer.

In third world democracies, most politicians are millionaires and most voters are worthless peasants (I mean materially), not even worth couple of pence. This has to change and that can only happen when country have people in power that comes from poor or middle class background. But that could not happen unless the country has a system where poor joins the system to earn his living and if this poor is capable, hard working and committed, they keep rising and eventually get amongst the top, to serves all other poor of the country. Now this system cannot be what third world democracies provide, and it is anyone’s guess what this system could be (committed dictatorial rule). Democracy can come later when country becomes developed, rich, affluent, and educated. :wink:

Wanted: A Bold Musharraf
Ahmed Quraishi - 7/1/2007

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—To the dismay of the hawks in the Pakistani strategic community, we have a military dictator who refuses to be what he’s really supposed to be: a military dictator. In his seven years in power, he has put up with more dissent and criticism – mostly from his supposed allies – than all of the Pakistani democratic regimes combined.

This may sound like praise, but is not. The following incident should tell you why. Exactly one year ago, in June 2006, in China’s bustling city of Shanghai, the Pakistani strongman, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, tried to sell Russia’s president Vladimir Putin and China’s president Hu Jintao on Pakistan’s worth as a strategic partner for both. (As an energy corridor for China and as a stabilizing factor for Russia’s Central Asian backyard.)

At the conference venue that brought the three leaders together, I informally gauged the reactions of some of the delegates. And I found skepticism. “You want to be our strategic partner,” one Russian journalist said to me, “but your country is unstable. Your leader is here today, gone tomorrow, with all his great ideas. You can’t say the same thing about Russian or Chinese leaderships.”

We may not be able to create a strong government in Islamabad on the lines of Moscow and Beijing, but we can’t also afford to be a banana republic, allowing a failed brand of Pakistani politics to take us down every time.

My point is this: Why a military dictator would want to be just another player in the country’s dirty, unstable and failed politics when he can come up with something better? Why the Pakistani military institution doesn’t opt for the creation of a system that brings out the best in the Pakistani people instead of recycling the same group of mediocre politicians?

As we waste our time and energy on a fabricated crisis since 9 March, our enemies use their pawns to kidnap Chinese citizens not in New Delhi or Washington, where it would make some sense, but right here in the heart of the capital of a Chinese ally, poisoning our ties with the Chinese people. At the same time, we are failing to intervene to secure our legitimate security interests in Afghanistan, where the Indians have virtually created a base for covert operations in our western provinces to keep Islamabad tied down.

Our failed parliamentary system of governance is obstructing Pakistan’s rise as a strong, responsible and credible power in the triangle of West, South and Central Asia. This failed system does not allow Pakistan’s best and brightest to cut through the monopoly of a stagnating political class and step forward to serve their homeland. This is a system that is destroying the potential of an otherwise creative and robust Pakistani nation.

And even if we rise on the strength of a reformed economy and a robust foreign policy, as the case is in the past five years, our domestic politics are so destructive they end up taking us back to square one.

Pakistan needs to make a clean break from this failed parliamentary system of governance that has lasted six decades. These days, as commentators talk about the failure of the setup that emerged from the 2002 elections, we have another chance at changing the system instead of perpetuating it.

The Musharraf administration needs to introduce a dramatic restructuring of Pakistani politics, sold directly to the silent majority of Pakistanis who are already fed up with our existing politics. This modified system has to be backed and guaranteed by our military institution as a long term strategic commitment along the lines of the commitment that the Turkish military has made to that nation’s political system.

  • President Musharraf must challenge our decaying politics by giving the nation a fresh constitution. Two-thirds of the Pakistanis are below 25 years of age. To them, future is more important than the past. The aging intelligentsia and politicians need to step aside and give Pakistan’s future a chance. The existing constitution creates conflict, doesn’t reflect ground realities, and cripples Pakistan’s potential as a rising power.

  • Executive power must be strengthened and expanded if we want to see a strong government in Islamabad. This means axing the current parliamentary system. Gen. Musharraf must bolster his position by introducing a presidential form of democracy while retaining the command of the armed forces in order to ensure continuity in his role as the author of the system. A powerful presidency will be crucial to embed the new system in the Pakistani environment. A Pakistani president must have the power to appoint likeminded professionals in federal offices. We can benefit from the American and the French democratic models in this regard.

  • We need to move beyond the current four provinces to at least a dozen or more, with more local governments. This will improve governance, create new local leaderships, weaken linguistic- and ethnic-based politics, and strengthen Pakistani nationalism.

  • Stability will continue to elude Pakistan without introducing something close to a two-party system – possibly Pakistan Muslim League [PML] on the right and Pakistan People’s Party [PPP] on the left – alternating power.

  • The Election Commission of Pakistan must introduce the requirement of a verifiable, free and secret ballot for the top slots within Pakistani political parties as a precondition to contesting elections. This will rid us of stagnating lifetime party leaderships, giving a larger number of Pakistanis a chance to serve the public and pave the way for a better class of politicians to rise.

It is far better for President Musharraf to be seen as an honest reformer than a shady politician. Power plays have hurt his image because ordinary Pakistanis have begun to see them as opportunism undermining his principled stand for a strong, emerging Pakistan.

In the current circumstances, Pakistan’s best bet is a bold, empowered president, not a timid one.

Ahmed Quraishi is a Pakistani public affairs professional. He heads the Pakistan Task Force at FurmaanRealpolitik, an independent Pakistani think tank based in Islamabad. He also produces and hosts a weekly foreign policy show for PTV World.

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This sums it all

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Ahmed Quraishi is a Pakistani public affairs professional. He heads the Pakistan Task Force at FurmaanRealpolitik, an independent Pakistani think tank based in Islamabad.** He also produces and hosts a weekly foreign policy show for PTV World.**

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Re: We need a bold Musharraf

Amongst other achievements of Musharraf:

1) Terrorism growing many folds in this country since 1999. Infact government sponsored terrorism started to achieve personal gain and extension of personal rule.

2) All the institutions becomeing useless and one man rule established.

3) Real Badshahslamat empowering himself to an extent that parliament, primeminister all becoming personal ghulams of badshahslamt.

4) The largest province in the country totally ignored for last 9 years. Not even one road and infra structure project started and completed in last 8 years in the province of 62% population. Infact project like Lahore airport delayed for 5 years and curtailed to 1/3rd the size.

5) No industrial/agriculatural growth taking place in Punjab thus sending 62% population to stone ages.

It's disgusting to see you advocating a dictator like that and not trusting in institutions, rule of law and above all people

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Humanist, don’t you think that on this forum most of the people are educated and they could understand the difference between lies and fact? Do you think that you could sell thoughts with propaganda and lies? ;)

You mean all these terrorists were not present before 1999? What I see is that these terrorists were present and were spreading, increasing in number before 1999. They were waiting for right time to start their talibanisation movement of Pakistan in due course. Only difference today is that, government has started challenging these terrorists and thus these terrorists are coming out of their hole, thus we are seeing them a lot.

Example: When there are plenty of Ants underground we do not see them. But when it rains than after rain we see many ants outside because rain brings them out. After people start seeing ants after rain and start believing that rain created ants than you can guess yourself their mental level.

Same is with terrorists in Pakistan. They were there underground. But when governments start kicking them, we see many out on the road. Actually, government is doing good if they are kicking these terrorists as longer it was waited, more stronger they would have become.

Who paid you to spread such lies? :) … Cant you see that today we have much stronger and free media curtsey of President Musharraf. [As this level of free media is not there in most countries, that includes Russia, China, Saudia, Iran, UAE, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Turkey … well even in India and most western, African, South American and other countries].

Today we have stronger Judiciary that is not there in many world countries.

Today we have an independent ‘State Bank of Pakistan’, independent ‘Stock exchange authority’ and independent ‘Pakistan statistical department’, independent ‘Banking sector’, independent ‘CBR’ and independent … (many institutions and sectors) … that no politicians ever desired or would have done.

In 1999 Pakistan had Rs 600 million (Rs 0.6 billion) in ‘higher education budget’ but today the budget is over 30000 million (more than 50 times, or over Rs 30 billion).

In 1999, Pakistan tax collection was 302 billion rupees … today it is over 1000 billion rupees (this year target is around Rs 1200 billion).

Karachi Stock market capitalization has increased over 12 times (1200 percent) in last 8 years of President Musharraf rule.

Well … 8 years ago, even to get a telephone line needed letter from minister but today one can get as many telephone line they want.

Before Musharraf, People use to queue many hours in heat to pay their utility bills but today bills can be paid instantly at various places.

Before Musharraf, to get FIR registered a person has to pay huge bribe or get letter from someone resourceful but today one have choices to register their FIRs (in court or in police station) … [Last time I went to Pakistan (2006) and needed to register FIR, I just went to police station and it was done within minutes … and surprise … surprise … I paid not a single penny for registering FIR].

Well … there is so much change today than it what it was 8 years ago that it really surprises me. Actually before that Pakistan was going backward. In 1988 (last year of Zia) Pakistan had much better conditions in everything and less corruption than what I found in 1999 … and today Pakistan is in much better condition with less corruption than it ever was… 10s of time better than what it was in 1988 and 100s of time better than what it was in 1999.

If that is true than I am happy :). I pray that what you are saying do happen InshaAllah.

I believe that whatever little corruption and hindrance on development and progress Pakistan is having today, it is due to crooks in parliament. I wish that Musharraf becomes bold enough to get rid of parliament too and as soon as possible … and when tackling people similar to Lal-Mosque goons, Musharraf should show some cruelty and do not wait for 6 months but kick them hard at place where it hurts, on day one. He should demolish all illegally built building in the name of Mosques and Madrassas (as that would do favour to Islam and would clear the name of Allah that Allah has his houses on illegally occupied lands) … plus should nationalize all Madrassas and kicked those retards teaching terrorism to poor of Pakistan in Madrassas.

That is wrong and lies. Fact is that the largest province (Balochistan) has seen 100s of time more development in last 8 years than it has seen since 1947 to 1999. Today Balochistan has many dams and network of road that was never possible during past rules of corrupts. People that use to go hungry and had no water to drink are now doing agriculture in Balochistan.

As for Punjab, situation is same. Development work done there during last 8 years is so unprecedented that Chief Minister is hoping that people would re-elect the present government just because of these development works.

Just imagine that when campaign started against Bhutto in 1977, all of Punjab was on road and Bhutto put martial law in most cities of Pakistan and gave them to army. Today, no political parties could bring people on the road. Even after spending billions by NS and BB, they had to come behind Chief Justice to see their strength but nevertheless, strength was so pathetic that government did not even bothered and let them dance on the road. Few thousands that did came out, they came out more to see the pathetic faces of chief justice and politicians and bhangra dances of black coat corrupts … then to join them.

It is these reason that government is not bothered to impose emergency or martial law … and BB is bending all the way and pleading President Musharraf to take off his uniform and jump into bed with her.

Hmmm … aap nay tou mujhay sonchnay per majboor kar diya :) … Now what should I do? cry or laugh? ;)

Mullah Nasir sahib… I am trusting institution (army) and not trusting corrupt and crooked politicians … did you get that? ;) … It is you who do not trust institutions (one of that is Army) and are advocating those bai-ghairat corrupt and crook politicians that have only business of looting and plundering the country. These politicians are not people of Pakistan, as most people of Pakistan are innocent and poor whereas these politicians are crooks, mega rich, liars, and corrupts. Now can you see the logic? Or is that, you do not know that army is also an institution? ;)

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I agree with Sa1eem. I think Musharraf is doing an excellent job of governing Pakistan, and he could probably achieve more if he wasn't so afraid to crackdown harder, and FORCE his more progressive ideals on Pakistan.

In the Pakistani and foreign press, there is plenty of criticism of Musharraf and mainly it's a lot of whining and complaining about how Musharraf doesn't allow democracy, and he's undemocratic, bla bla bla. Perhaps the media suffers from short-term memory loss, and prefers to forget about how successful Pakistan was under Bhutto's and Sharif's highly functional and progressive democracies, or perhaps they just like the word democracy and use any opportunity they can to spew it. But if Musharraf is to take Pakistan out of the trainwrecks of Benazir's and Nawaz Sharif's democracies, then there's going to be a little bit of pain involved, and the Pakistanis just need to deal with it, and accept that Pakistan can't be rebuilt in only a few years. But if Musharraf is allowed to lay a strong foundation, then when he hands Pakistan back to the democratic leaders, it will be more difficult for them to destroy Pakistan again.

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No, it is time for musharaf to go. I'm just hoping he goes in peace rather than fireworks. Pakistan will suffer either way but it's better to face it now rather than later

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Ahmed is an intelligent person, wonder why he acts as the mouthpiece of the government. He actually wrote a piece arguing why presidential system will be suitable for Pakistan, so perhaps that explains his other articles.

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A bolder Musharraf is definitely needed much more than perceived.

The man has all control, and he refuses to exercise it...a rare example indeed.

History will have rich tributes for the man Musharraf, but if he fails to seize the day and lets his powers rust unused for the good of the nation when needed most esp against the threat of the same old crooks breaking loose and wreaking havoc on our Pakistan all over again, then I'm afraid Pakistan's history wont be merciful to him over this ignorance and dire mistake of his.

Ayub the ever powerful with his FM's baton made a mistake when he *felt *weak in the knees and the nation paid, though the very masses that had lead to his stepping-down realized within a few years how they had blundered, alas the "dog" was old an the milk spilled.

Ironically power lies most unused when it's most required...

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What is Musharraf going to do about his cabinet in such case? Musharraf himself is a biggest criminal who let Nawaz Sharif go outside country and didn't proceed with court/justice system, he let his crooked company stop NAB functioning. Musharraf is as criminal and corrupt as you make others to be. Probably Musharraf may not have looted as much wealth himself but he is helping army loot the country at wider scale by land, by controlling institutions, by installing retd army col/brigs in civilian institutions and what not.

If you want a "bold" and "good" ruler you will have to wait for another decade as Musharraf is not planning on going by himself. Oh btw, I am not claiming a "democratic" ruler coming out of our election process will be any bold or good ;)

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1) Terrorism growing many folds in this country since 1999. Infact government sponsored terrorism started to achieve personal gain and extension of personal rule.

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So you mean these terrorists were not in Pakistan before? there were no bomb blasts, shia-sunni fasad and other hangamey in Pakistan before? Terrorism has just changed its form. It was here way before musharraf took the charge

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2) All the institutions becomeing useless and one man rule established.

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You mean just like in NS and BB era?

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3) Real Badshahslamat empowering himself to an extent that parliament, primeminister all becoming personal ghulams of badshahslamt.

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You mean when NS used to punish public servants on people's requests right on the spot and used to get them HANDCUFFED without any trial (let alone free trial), he was not badshah-salamat? At least Musharraf is not that much of a badshah

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4) The largest province in the country totally ignored for last 9 years. Not even one road and infra structure project started and completed in last 8 years in the province of 62% population. Infact project like Lahore airport delayed for 5 years and curtailed to 1/3rd the size.

5) No industrial/agriculatural growth taking place in Punjab thus sending 62% population to stone ages.

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I advise you to subscribe and watch GEO so that you can see the ads by Punjab Govt about what have they done in last 5-8 years. If even 50% of the claims by the ad are correct, your claims will not withstand. Also you are thinking with narrow mind. Open your mind up to development projects in whole Pakistan else you have to listen to the facts such as

  • Karachi Mass Transit has not been build although it was approved in 1980 thats more than 20 years and you are crying for last 8 years only

  • Its only Musharraf who completed Gawadar in Baluchistan before that Baluchistan was never the center of attention for development

  • and so on .........

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Slight correction, Musharraf took the reign in 1999, so its not even 8 years yet. You are crying for "ignorance" of the province (I don't know how accurate it is) for last 8 years only, ask Baluchi people whose province has been ignored for 60 years, ask Karachi (one of largest revenue generator city) how it was ignored in past.

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Pakistani politicians and army had made so depressed and hopeless the pakistan and its people i think we can not get good leader ship from pakistani muslim society so we should concider to hand over pakistan to United Nation (UNO)

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and the good thing is that it doesn't rule over a country :)

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Of course most of the people fortunately do not subscribe to your idea, consult last dawn-cnn polls. How you are advocating this worse dictator Pakistan has ever seen I am sure when you will think about it after some years you will ashamed of yoursel

Still today there are more than 10 Jihadi camps working in Azad Kashmir and Pakistan under the supervision of Pakistani army. Where do you think Maulana Masood Azhar is. Then there is famous axis of Abdul Karim Dhedi and Dawood Ibrahim working from Karachi. Bull **** about challenging terrorrist. These guys can sell their mothers for money.
You talk shamelessly about before 1999, and forget Kargil. Thousands of Pakistani army jawans who were sent as freedom fighters were abandoned to die. The airforce chief, naval chief, prime minister of the country were not even aware of this sick man's adventurism.

You will see a lot of ants, rather snakes are there biting the very foundations of our country.

Bull ****!!!!

Who paid you to spread such lies? :) … Cant you see that today we have much stronger and free media curtsey of President Musharraf. [As this level of free media is not there in most countries, that includes Russia, China, Saudia, Iran, UAE, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Turkey … well even in India and most western, African, South American and other countries].

I don't sell my soul like you!!!
The guys who worked for years tapping BBs corruption and had undeniable evidences for around 2 billion dollars of plundered money were suddenly ordered to stop. What free media, bull *!!! When these guys refused suddenly transferred and all cases withdrawn. Free media bull *!!!

Today we have stronger Judiciary that is not there in many world countries.

And thanks to Mush for this------
What kind of nut case are you?

Today we have an independent ‘State Bank of Pakistan’, independent ‘Stock exchange authority’ and independent ‘Pakistan statistical department’, independent ‘Banking sector’, independent ‘CBR’ and independent … (many institutions and sectors) … that no politicians ever desired or would have done.

Yes Stock Exhange :
One group AKD-Dawood Ibrahim, direct front men of Musharraf.
Second group Arif Habib working for PM, eventually making money for Mush.
Independant Habib Bank the largest Asian foriegn bank with presence in 26 countries sold for less amount than Union Bank.
Independant Banking sector working hard so that these goons can make money in Stock Exchangefor Musharaf bailing them on daily basis in stock exchange.

In 1999 Pakistan had Rs 600 million (Rs 0.6 billion) in ‘higher education budget’ but today the budget is over 30000 million (more than 50 times, or over Rs 30 billion).

Where is it???

In 1999, Pakistan tax collection was 302 billion rupees … today it is over 1000 billion rupees (this year target is around Rs 1200 billion).

Where is the tax money going. Just a petty thief like Mian Aamir has siphoned more than 2 billion dollars for Musharraf.

Karachi Stock market capitalization has increased over 12 times (1200 percent) in last 8 years of President Musharraf rule.

Sure, sure.

Well … 8 years ago, even to get a telephone line needed letter from minister but today one can get as many telephone line they want.

It was don by PTCL and Mobile telephone companies not Musharraf, Idiot.

Before Musharraf, People use to queue many hours in heat to pay their utility bills but today bills can be paid instantly at various places.

No comment!

Before Musharraf, to get FIR registered a person has to pay huge bribe or get letter from someone resourceful but today one have choices to register their FIRs (in court or in police station) … [Last time I went to Pakistan (2006) and needed to register FIR, I just went to police station and it was done within minutes … and surprise … surprise … I paid not a single penny for registering FIR].

It will be good if sometime you come out of your drawing room! Try visiting Pakistan sometime!
Your paid story writing will be more realistic if you do that!

Well … there is so much change today than it what it was 8 years ago that it really surprises me. Actually before that Pakistan was going backward. In 1988 (last year of Zia) Pakistan had much better conditions in everything and less corruption than what I found in 1999 … and today Pakistan is in much better condition with less corruption than it ever was… 10s of time better than what it was in 1988 and 100s of time better than what it was in 1999.

I fully agree with you that there is so much change.
The income of Musharraf has increased many folds.
He is today one of the richest billionaire in the world.
Yes so much has changed.
A common man has pools of gutter water outside his home and his children swiming in it.
No electricity, hours of traffic jams, pollution, misery.
Yes so much has changed.
Try visiting Pakistan sometime to see this change, and I do not mean only Defence areas, I mean real Pakistan. It is about 10/20 km from where you live.

If that is true than I am happy :). I pray that what you are saying do happen InshaAllah.

I believe that whatever little corruption and hindrance on development and progress Pakistan is having today, it is due to crooks in parliament. I wish that Musharraf becomes bold enough to get rid of parliament too and as soon as possible … and when tackling people similar to Lal-Mosque goons, Musharraf should show some cruelty and do not wait for 6 months but kick them hard at place where it hurts, on day one. He should demolish all illegally built building in the name of Mosques and Madrassas (as that would do favour to Islam and would clear the name of Allah that Allah has his houses on illegally occupied lands) … plus should nationalize all Madrassas and kicked those retards teaching terrorism to poor of Pakistan in Madrassas.

Yes everybody else in Pakistan is an animal except Mush.
You really talk like Bush!
Pakistanis are terrorist, Mush is our friend!

That is wrong and lies. Fact is that the largest province (Balochistan) has seen 100s of time more development in last 8 years than it has seen since 1947 to 1999. Today Balochistan has many dams and network of road that was never possible during past rules of corrupts. People that use to go hungry and had no water to drink are now doing agriculture in Balochistan.

That's why they have become diehard supporters of Pakistan.

As for Punjab, situation is same. Development work done there during last 8 years is so unprecedented that Chief Minister is hoping that people would re-elect the present government just because of these development works.

I don't want to speak about Chief Minister Punjab.
Ask anybody in the streets of Punjab.
Word of caution, Do it on your own risk.

Just imagine that when campaign started against Bhutto in 1977, all of Punjab was on road and Bhutto put martial law in most cities of Pakistan and gave them to army. Today, no political parties could bring people on the road. Even after spending billions by NS and BB, they had to come behind Chief Justice to see their strength but nevertheless, strength was so pathetic that government did not even bothered and let them dance on the road. Few thousands that did came out, they came out more to see the pathetic faces of chief justice and politicians and bhangra dances of black coat corrupts … then to join them.

Only Khaki uniforms are human.
Black coats, those bloody rotten animals.
Whar Justise, We do not need such a useless thing in Pakistan!!

It is these reason that government is not bothered to impose emergency or martial law … and BB is bending all the way and pleading President Musharraf to take off his uniform and jump into bed with her.

Yes he should not take off his uiform, his own skin will be endangered.

Hmmm … aap nay tou mujhay sonchnay per majboor kar diya :) … Now what should I do? cry or laugh? ;)

Laugh, You are paid a lot of money to write gruntings like these.

Mullah Nasir sahib… I am trusting institution (army) and not trusting corrupt and crooked politicians … did you get that? ;) … It is you who do not trust institutions (one of that is Army) and are advocating those bai-ghairat corrupt and crook politicians that have only business of looting and plundering the country. These politicians are not people of Pakistan, as most people of Pakistan are innocent and poor whereas these politicians are crooks, mega rich, liars, and corrupts. Now can you see the logic? Or is that, you do not know that army is also an institution? ;)

I didn't know army is an instituion, I always thought it is a mafia.
Thanks for enlightening me, Mr Genius.

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saleem, well said.

unfortunately musharraf has led his supporters down. he had mandate from the awam to clean up the political mess. instead of focussing on that very important task, he has wasted his energy on trying to cultivate liberalism in pak for which he gets no credit. liberals would never be pleased with him because pakistani liberals are a very stupid nussal - they will only be happy when they have gora approval which certainly wont be forthcoming for a military dicatator esp of a nuclear muslim state.

right now musharraf's problem to a large part is caused by the media which he himself set free. essentially media is dominated by urdu medium types who have been bought up on a diet of conspiracy theories. rational discussion with this segment of awam is a waste of time. musharraf essentially did not factor this aspect of pak society into his equation. left to its own devices, pak society will continue to do "upnay paon pey kulharee maarna. only thing that can turn pak around is strong dose of authoritarian rule which has the vision needed to turn pak into a modern forward looking society. unfortunately musharraf had the opportunity to accomplish this but he let it go to waste.

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It would help if you could separate your comments from other people's comments to which you are replying... otherwise it looks like someone rambling while asleep.

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We need a bowled Musharraf.

Where is Imran