Main Sarfraz A Shah Sahib ki kitab (FAQIR RANG) parh raha tha. Iske page 272 par Shah Sahib na likha hay k Wazifa karna Hindoan ki Rasam ha or Waqt zaiya karna ha. Hum yahi sunte aye hain tama bazurg wazifa karte thay or islam na balke zaroorui bataya hay. bahar hal mera liya yeh nai baat hay, isliya ap kie mashwarey ki zaroorat mehsoos hoi.
Kiya really wazifa time waste hay?
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Wazifa tou humairay deen se hi he. Itnah tou sabit hi hona chahiye. Mene tou bohot see proofs dekhy hain ke ye itna parho aur ye itna parho. Meri samaj mein yehi wazaif hotay hain.
Ab aap ki baat se yeh nahi pata lagta ke iss admi ne kis kism ke wazaif nahi maane. Agar wo harr wazifa ke inkar karte hain tou pir tou fatwa unki gumrahi pe zarur lagne wala hai, meri soch ke mutabik
Humairay bohot se amal hain jo dusray religions main bhi hain. Baas yeh kehna ke yeh hindu bhi karte hain koi humaray karne ki pabandi nahi ho jati. Koi koi aisee bhi cheezain hain jo doosrain bhi karte hain aur humara karne bhi laazmi hain
Humaray our hindu ke darmiyian zarur aik fark rehta hai. Wo temple rakte hain aur hum Masajid, wo worship karte hain aur hum bhi. Wo bhi purification ki talash karte aur hum bhi. Purification ki talash main wo ganges main nahatay aur hum koi bhi saaf pani ke saath naha lehte hain
Agar wo koi particular kism ke wazaif par aitraz karte hain tou pir unki baat details main sunn kar jawabat dena parray ga. Yeh (sahi) alimo ka kaam hai
Shakal se safraz shah saab muje koi alim nahi lagte
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2 Baatein:
- Kya wazifa Arabi ka lufz hai ya Sanscrit ka?
- Agar aap ke liye ye naee baat hai … to iss cheez se sabq le lein … Islam mein naee baat ko hum “biddat” kehte hein …
Haerat ki baat hai … biddaton se bachate bachate khudhi un mein aa ja na …
Tamman wazaif jo mere ilm mein hein … un sab mein Allah SubhanaWaTa’ala ke Pyare Naam buland kiye jaa te hein … agar sirf yehee un ka faida ho, Zikr-ullah kabhi … waqt zaya nahein ho ta …
Lekin mera yaqeen aur imaan hai ke aur bhi bohat faidey hein … Zarroor hum ye to keh sakte hein ke kuch wazaaif hadeeson mein bilkul waisey majud nahein hain … lekin unhe iss waja se na mumkin karar de na, ek bohat barree ghalatee hai.
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Bayshak
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Main Sarfraz A Shah Sahib ki kitab (FAQIR RANG) parh raha tha. Iske page 272 par Shah Sahib na likha hay k Wazifa karna Hindoan ki Rasam ha or Waqt zaiya karna ha. Hum yahi sunte aye hain tama bazurg wazifa karte thay or islam na balke zaroorui bataya hay. bahar hal mera liya yeh nai baat hay, isliya ap kie mashwarey ki zaroorat mehsoos hoi. Kiya really wazifa time waste hay?
I have not read any of Sarfraz shah book, so cannot comment on what he wrote. But I can say that 'IF' he has written that Wazifa in Islam came from Hinduism, and there is no misinterpretation of what he wrote, than he is wrong (or confuse).
Though I believe there is concept of Wazifa, Zikr, Tasbeeh in hinduism too (at least there is possibility of that) ... obviously, with different names. Regardless, that does not mean what we have in Islam came from Hinduism.
Here I would like to mention something that all Muslims should know. That is, Allah has sent Prophets (AS) in every community all across the world, and all Prophets have brought similar messages and practices from Allah. So, to find similar messages and practices in different part of world amongst different religions, do not necessarily mean one religion has borrowed the message and practice from other, but it confirms that there is 'ONE GOD' who sent messengers in every community (as mentioned in Quran) and all got those messages and practices from same source, that is Allah.
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Koi bhai please Wazifa ka definition hume pohnchai. Muje tou wazifa, salah, dua aur Sunnat ke amal main fark hi nahi samaj main ata
Hum dhikr karte hain tou wo bhi wazifa (tasbih finger ya beeds par tak humaisha rahe hain)
Hum dua karte hain wo bhi wazifa (jaise uss main durood parna hai)
Hum sunnat par amal karte hain tou wo bhi wazifa.(hum ne yeh kaam right hand se karna hai, aur koi aur kaam left se.hum ne ye part aik martaba dhona hai aur yeh part teen martaba)
Iss ke mutabik humairay wazaif tou humari hakikat hai jese koi our cheez humari hakikat hai hi nahi
Humara Kalima bhi wazifa hai? Waseela tou ZARRUR hai
Chola muje bhi pata chalgeya hai ke mein wazifa main aitraz nahi karta. Baat pabandi ki -agar shaks paray eise wird jo aik parnay main shamil nahi karne chahiye tou yeh aik aitraz hai jis ko main manta hoo. Iskay ilawa meri soch pabandiyo agay nahi jati. Shaid aur kism ki bhi pabandiyon hain
Time waste Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala ke mangay se nahi hota. Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala ke qurrb (closeness) ko talash karna yeh sab achi bataain hain. Par eisee batain bhi hain jese apna concentration nahi rakna. Parna par ghalat waja ke liye parna. Aur masloon par ghalt aqeedah rakna, aisee cheezain mangana jo karamat mai ati hain par apnay app ko Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala ke Qurrb se door rakna (nah farmani main) -yeh sab time waste kar sakti hain
Par humara tehaan in masloon par nahi hona chahiye, Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala ke Qurrb ki talash main hona chahiye. Is liye yeh batain time waste nahi. Is liye aadmi apnay Fard ko pura kar ke (ya pura kaene ki talash) in dhikr ( wazifa parna jese ) main beht jaiy tou ye bohut hi bethreen dil saaf karna ka tahrika ban jata hai
Saaf dil Allah ke qurrb main ah jata hain. Pir Allauddin Siddique video ki baat yaad ati hain ke un ne kaha Allah ne farmaya hai Quran main ke apne androoni ko saf karo. Matlab hum androoni se nasaaf ho sakte hain. Yeh wazifay/dhikr jab aap beht kar nawafil tarike se Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala ko yaad aur bhulatay hain yeh Iman ko zinda karte hain.
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^^^ Brother, nice question ... wazifay ka matlab kiya? :)
Well, according to my understanding (please try to confirm yourself):
Wazifa is an Arabic word that means repetition (of certain words or phrase). When someone repetitively and continuously recites a certain ayah or ‘sifat of Allah’ without numbering them, or in large number, than the person is doing wazifa.
Dhikr (Zikr) is talking about something or someone. In Islam, when one talks about Allah than the person is considered as doing Zikr.
Tazbeeh: Repetition of certain ‘Siffat of Allah, phrase, or praise of Allah’ in certain numbers is tasbeeh. Here numbers are usually not large. That is why we give a name ‘tazbeeh’ to a tool that we use to count what we recite (a 33 bead tasbeeh, or 3 times 33 bead tasbeeh … with one long one to make the count = 100).
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Shakal se safraz shah saab muje koi alim nahi lagte
shakal say to main bee NYC ka sab say bara playboy nahieen lagta..par hoon!
shakal ka kaya hai....
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Main Sarfraz A Shah Sahib ki kitab (FAQIR RANG) parh raha tha. Iske page 272 par Shah Sahib na likha hay k Wazifa karna Hindoan ki Rasam ha or Waqt zaiya karna ha. Hum yahi sunte aye hain tama bazurg wazifa karte thay or islam na balke zaroorui bataya hay. bahar hal mera liya yeh nai baat hay, isliya ap kie mashwarey ki zaroorat mehsoos hoi. Kiya really wazifa time waste hay?
are you sure he said that? pls be careful.
i have read all of his books and i dont recall anything like this..he has himself done so many wazifas....but yes he warns to be careful as few wazifas can be tough for our health.
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Bhai aap kyon meri market kharab karrae hen?! 
Bhai aap kyon meri market kharab karrae hen?!
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By Playboy, he meant Playboy magazine ka subscriber.
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By Playboy, he meant Playboy magazine ka subscriber.
TLK bhai..didnt you hear
"mehnat kar, hasad na kar"
AAp bee aa jao meedan may....:)
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chan meray, playboys kee “market” nahieen hotiee…
“market” tau …
oh well, let me stop here … samigh tau aap gayae hon gay kay market value kin kee hotie hai 
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Thank you Saleem Sahib. I do not know how I can attach a file here for your attention to read for further guidance. He is a man of sufi-ism and he declares that he is " SAHIBE KASHAF< SAHIBE MU'AKAL, and he is not less than a WALI which he got it from his MURSHAD , SYED YAQOOB SHAH SAHIB (LATE) waliullah.
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Mr. Phoenixdesi
Thank you. I can quote last paragraph of page272 of his book" FAQEER RANG".
I am not that learned u can guide me further.
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^^^ Brother, nice question ... wazifay ka matlab kiya? :)
Well, according to my understanding (please try to confirm yourself):
Wazifa is an Arabic word that means repetition (of certain words or phrase). When someone repetitively and continuously recites a certain ayah or ‘sifat of Allah’ without numbering them, or in large number, than the person is doing wazifa.
Dhikr (Zikr) is talking about something or someone. In Islam, when one talks about Allah than the person is considered as doing Zikr.
Tazbeeh: Repetition of certain ‘Siffat of Allah, phrase, or praise of Allah’ in certain numbers is tasbeeh. Here numbers are usually not large. That is why we give a name ‘tazbeeh’ to a tool that we use to count what we recite (a 33 bead tasbeeh, or 3 times 33 bead tasbeeh … with one long one to make the count = 100).
Salam Alaikum sorry brother i can not confirm anything but i can offer my impression on the words and their application for correction
Wazifa is a combination to recite and repetition is not a must. It is prescribed and the usage of the word wazifa is nowadays limited to modern prescribed recitations of combinations to seek healing, cure or improvement. However due to there being no known boundaries between this and other forms of dua my interpretation of it negates it having its own name (wazifa.) So in my impression there is no real need to refer to wazifas as wazifas! Although the word is applied to describe a specific type of dua.
Zikr is rememberance, rememberance of presence. May or may not include repetition but a specific number of repetitions is not sought.
Tasbih is repetition where there is consideration for counting or where a particular number is target or is continous
Please correct as appropriate
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Salam Alaikum sorry brother i can not confirm anything but i can offer my impression on the words and their application for correction
Wazifa is a combination to recite and repetition is not a must. It is prescribed and the usage of the word wazifa is nowadays limited to modern prescribed recitations of combinations to seek healing, cure or improvement. However due to there being no known boundaries between this and other forms of dua my interpretation of it negates it having its own name (wazifa.) So in my impression there is no real need to refer to wazifas as wazifas! Although the word is applied to describe a specific type of dua.
Zikr is rememberance, rememberance of presence. May or may not include repetition but a specific number of repetitions is not sought.
Tasbih is repetition where there is consideration for counting or where a particular number is target or is continous
Please correct as appropriate
Brother, you could be right (I won’t argue), but according to my knowledge, I believe what I wrote earlier is correct. :)
I believe confusion arise because some people use the word wazifa wrongly, saying that Mr X read wazifa and blew on Mr Y to make Mr Y well. In fact, from what I know, in such circumstance, Mr X do not read Wazifa, but reads an ‘ayah’, a particular phrase, or repeat particular 'siffat of Allah’, and then throw a blow on Mr Y, expecting that it would give comfort to Mr Y.
Anyhow, as far as wazifa is concerned, this people read for a purpose, and they keep reading (repeating) it until their purpose is achieved (or whatever). This reading of Wazifa may not be done on single sitting but it is normally done on daily basis, several times a week basis, weekly basis, or monthly basis. Normally, time and days get fixed by those who give permission of wazifa. It is recommended that before and after every Wazifa sitting, person should recite darood 3, 5 or 7 times at both ends of wazifa sitting.
For instance … a person starts wazifa for intended desire (marriage … financial situation becomes better … person gets job … etc).
Person giving permission and phrase to recite may tell reciter to read wazifa, every ‘x’day and ‘y’day or whatever, between 11 PM to 1 AM (2 hours) or whatever time length. Then the person (reciter) would do that repeatedly, until his intended desire is fulfilled.
I think what Yunus (AS) did in the belly of a fish was ... he read wazifa (ayat-e-Karima). Thus, one can say that most famous wazifa recitation was by Yunus (AS) when he was in belly of a fish. His wazifa (repeated recitation of ‘ayat-e-Karima’) had purpose (intend) to get out of the belly of the fish, and he kept reciting the same wazifa (‘ayat-e-Karima’) for ages, until he came out of the belly of fish.