My thread is inspired from the other one about ‘Duas for Marriage’.
My question is are these so called ‘wazeefas’ (because that’s what they are) verified by Hadith? I have noticed a so called blind wazeefa following culture in our society. People will claim that you have to read this particular dua exactly this many times, at this time of the day, then do sajda a particular number of times, and then there are all sorts of permutations and combinations you have to follow. No one bothers verifying this information from the Hadith, but simply follow it because someone’s pir said so.
Is it a lack of trust in Allah, that your prayers or normal dua might not be answered, that forces people to do this? Why is there an emphasis on numbers, when all that should suffice is a heartfelt dua to Allah?
I know where you're coming from......i have had this same question....and the answer given by the proponents is this...
I APOLOGISE IF ITS OFFENSIVE TO ANYBODY....BUT THIS IS WHAT I HAVE HEARD..
" The akaabereen [elders/ancestors etc], the buzurgaan e deen, Auliaa etc etc...... they were very pious people and stuff.......and due to their special bond with the almighty.....they were able to figure out these specific 'recipes' for different purposes......and that the 'forumulas' have been tested by them.........so thats how those formulas/recipes came into being....., since the words/sentences are for praise of allah [or sometimes taken from quran]....so you can't basically question them. "
There are certain dua'as to say/read at certain times but when it comes to how many times should one read it, there is no real basis.
For example, look at the story of Umm Salamah.
Umm Salamah lost her husband Abu Salamah, who had returned to Allah swt. She was devastated. The Prophet (SAW) came to her and to console her, gave her this dua'a to read:
inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi rajiun. Allahumma ajirni fi musibati, wa akhlif li khayran minha
To Allah we belong, and to Him will we return – O Allah, reward me for my affliction and replace it for me with that which is better.
He never told her HOW many times to read the dua'a.
Umm Salamah would always think "who could be a better husband than Abu Salamah?" But she had faith and recited the dua'a.
what happened next? The Prophet (SAW) asked Umm Salamah for her hand in marriage!
SubhanAllah!! Now, who can be a better husband than the Prophet himself?!
point is, with almost anything else in religion, Islam came down with certain rules and advice. NOT numbers.
The MOST important factor when making a dua'a is your
faith and emaan in Allah, not how long your wazeefa will be. Quality over Quantity.
Yes. The one where the Prophet pbuh said that it’s better than having a servant do your work for you? It was something along those lines but I’ve been doing it before sleep since the last 10 years, ever since I read about it. That is a verified hadith. Most of these wazeefas I’m talking about are not.
Yes. The one where the Prophet pbuh said that it's better than having a servant do your work for you? It was something along those lines but I've been doing it before sleep since the last 10 years, ever since I read about it. That is a verified hadith. Most of these wazeefas I'm talking about are not.
My belief is that if Wazeefa is proved by Hadees or if its recitation of a part of Quran then I would trust it. If its man made then I am not sure about it. But in any case, wazaa'if are mustahib, they are not even nafl, let alone farz. So if one does not believe, there is nothing wrong in not reciting them.
My belief is that if Wazeefa is proved by Hadees or if its recitation of a part of Quran then I would trust it. If its man made then I am not sure about it. But in any case, wazaa'if are mustahib, they are not even nafl, let alone farz. So if one does not believe, there is nothing wrong in not reciting them.
I would trust it as well if based on Hadith or the Quran, I just feel that emphasis on exact number of recitations unless specifically mentioned is wrong. Like reciting something for an odd number in a sajdah etc. Sure dhikr is a great thing but it's not like once you reach the magic number everything falls into place. Who comes up with these numbers or methods? It makes it feel more like a spell and less like a dua. Quality over quantity, as pataka said.
I believe in them, because I think numbers are of great importance in our religion. We also know that just by doing vird or repeating something can effect one's personality and life - that' the power of God's names and words.
I would trust it as well if based on Hadith or the Quran, **I just feel that emphasis on exact number of recitations unless specifically mentioned is wrong. Like reciting something for an odd number in a sajdah etc. **Sure dhikr is a great thing but it's not like once you reach the magic number everything falls into place. Who comes up with these numbers or methods? It makes it feel more like a spell and less like a dua. Quality over quantity, as pataka said.
Many wazeefas are, what buzurgs say. tajurbati things. That is, they are recitations experimented by Oliyaa hazraat.
Odd numbers are just numbers that prove real intention of you doing somthing. One can be a fluke, 2 can be a coincident, but when you do something 3 times (talaq, eejab during nikah, tasbeeh in your sajda) then it means that you know what you are doing.
I don't think one should read too much into numbers in the religion. If there was a huge importance of numbers, the Prophet PBUH or even Allah would have mentioned something about it.
Same with wazeefas. If they were such an important part of solving our problems, wouldn't the Prophet or the Sahabah do it themselves first? Compared to the troubles that they had, we have it SO much easier.** Yet you don't find any authentic hadiths and accounts of them reciting a dua'a for a specific amount of numbers**
The most important thing to remember is this: There is nobody between you and Allah. YOU need that 110% of eman. Without emaan, no wazeefa or anything is going to work. You need to believe and trust Allah that whatever He does, He does for our own good. Allah says:** And when My servants ask you, [O Muhammad], concerning Me - indeed I am near. I respond to the invocation of the supplicant when he calls upon Me. So let them respond to Me [by obedience] and believe in Me that they may be [rightly] guided.** [Surah al-Baqarah Ayah 186]
Allah tells us Himself that all we need to do is ASK Him for something and He will give it to us. We have to work on our intentions and our emaan. The quality of our dua'a is most important.
Welll.......if number of prayers, number of rakaat, number of times to recite tasbeeh during sajda/rukoo was communicated as being specific reptitions/number of times....and specifically mentioned to be followed as an act of worship........then the wazeefa specific 'reps/number of times to recite' woud also have been sourced from Quran and Sunnah..........because numbers/reps for worship were revealed by Allah through his Messenger SAW......
now the bazurgs, oliyaa.......did they get those numbers communicated to them by Allah?
With all due respect, I don’t base my beliefs on what the oliyaa practiced but rather what the Holy Prophet pbuh and his companions did. While I do have respect for these people who were walis of Allah, I don’t think undue importance should be attached with these wazeefas supposedly devised by them. Many people I know believe in them blindly because they think these oliyaa had superpowers of some sort. Our driver for example is a molvi who is always reading these books about the buzurgs and oliyaa and the other day was preaching to me how, Data Gunj Bakhsh had the power to fly
OK myth of Data Gunj Baksh flying and some wazeefa by Hazrat Rasheed Gangohvi are two different things, but I agree that believing in wazaa’efs is not the requirement of eeman and its a personal thing.
Having said that, there are proofs that Prophet recited, or asked sahaba to recite, or approved of sahaba’s action of reciting some part of Quran to take care of some specific Hajat. Like its proven by hadees that Sura-e-Fateha can be recited for someone who is sick and seeking health.
Having said that, there are proofs that Prophet recited, or asked sahaba to recite, or approved of sahaba's action of reciting some part of Quran to take care of some specific Hajat. Like its proven by hadees that Sura-e-Fateha can be recited for someone who is sick and seeking health.
it its in hadees....its unquestionable off course.......but the point was where did the specific repetitions/numbers came from??
Never heard of it :S
Its a whole subject within the sufi/peeri/mureedi business.......since the oliyaa are some sort of diviine beings......they possess special magical powers
^ bhai g.....those mentioned in hadees with numbers........no problem......
Point is about the ever-growing number of wazeefas.....right from treating diabetes to getting married...
i think you would've come across a LOTS n LOTS of wazeefas which have no mention in hadees whatesover.........
Like the say......recite so and so word...at so and so time......and so and so number of times.........where did these people get this forumula from?? and how did it got communicated to them that if they do it this specific way........only then Allah will solve the problem??
^ Haan to aap apni aqal istemaal karain naa. If you are picking up a wazeefa book from cheechoon kee maliyan railway station hawker and started following it without checking it with a scholar then its your fault.
asked his beloved daughter Fatima (RA) to read after ever salaat.
