WASHINGTON (AP) - The Fine Arts Commission is considering to build a memorial to Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, whose teaching of nonviolence helped bring independence to India. It too will be a small park, with a 10-foot statue of Gandhi, on Massachusetts Avenue facing the Indian Embassy.
Good! Americans too bady need a big dose of Ghadhiji's principles.
He may have taught nonviolence but he also encouraged communalism and contributed to hatred toward Muslims. Jinnah, on the other hand, believed in a sectarian state and taught tolerance. If he had lived longer it might be us bragging about a sectarian government, instead of India.
Zara
Gandhi can be called wierd or strange or whatever according to today's norms of dress or opinion. But certainly did not teach hatred against Muslims.
I agree he did not TEACH it, but he focused so much on Hinduism as the only answer for the country that as a result he marginalized Muslims. Perhaps he did not intend it, but he also did not guard against it.
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some things never cease to amaze me. the length to which people go in denouncing the obvious. non-violence was Gandhi's one major teaching and it becomes a 'may have taught' thing. and something which he neither aimed for nor deserved to be called is 'communal' or contributor to 'hatred of muslims'. and the irony of it all that he got killed by a hindu fanatic who thought he contributed to love towards muslims! maybe someone on this forum should have had a word with Nathu Ram Godse.
I apologize if I made you upset. You're right, he did not intend to do further hatred toward Muslims, I agree. Saying "he may have taught nonviolence" is just a figure of speech, by which I meant to mean "although he taught nonviolence." He certainly did, and I would never deny it. I think, though, that in his eagerness to get rid of the British, he didn't consider Muslims enough.
Zara
Strange!!!!!
The most influential person of Asia (as portrayed in another thread of this forum) taught nonviolence and was not listened to by his followers??????????????
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its all right Zara. i didn't mean to sound harsh either. just that i feel Gandhi was a pure soul... unbiased. someone who dedicated his life to do good for his country people as he understood it, religion/race not withstanding. his ways and means probably were not perfect and both hindus/muslims debate whether or not their communities benefitted by his vision. still, there are few people with that level of dedication and total disregard for self interest.
i can see i may have been (may have? definitely!) a bit prejudiced too and concluded more than you had intended. not very uncommon on this media of typed expressions... cheers, take care and all that :)
Thanks! You too 8-).
Hi,
As far as I know, Gandhi Ji demonstrated by staying hungry (bhook hartal) just because the people of IndoPak (the Muslims and the Hindus) were fighting too much. And that my friends brought the end to the killing rampage that both religious factions demonstrated. Gandhi is no less than a hero, maybe even more than a hero. So lets respect him please. :)
Take Care All.
Concerned Pakistani. ;)
Gandhiji message:
Eet Ka Jawab Jab Patthar se Diya Jaaye
To Tamam Duniya hi Khatam Ho Jaayegi.
India and Pakistan and the entire world has a lot to learn from Gandhiji's message.
I heard that indian embassy requested the state department,and bought that piece of land and the indian government is building,it is not US who is taking the cost,every single money will be donated by the indian government,if pakistan want they can built a big status for quid-e-azam and put it infront of Pakistan embassy.When I was in newyork,I remember seeing gandhi's status at the end of broadway,it was built by the indian group of doctors.
dil..dilseeee
Nice to know that there are some Pakistanis who respect Gandhi for his contribution towards the freedom of the people of the whole subcontinent (not just Hindus).
You'd be surprised Bombay :)
....if only we'd had leaders like Gandhi and Jinnah lead their nations for a little longer..we may have actually avoided so much bloodshed over the years. Oh well..guess somethings are meant to be...
Cheers.
Believe In Angels.
Laterz,
ManiaX.
Hmmmmm,
In Pakistan , its considered patriotic, to denounce everything about India.
I never heard anything good about gandhi from my teachers, it was much latter that I came to appreciate what he represented....In my opinion, He is the only modern day Person,from our part of the world , that the whole subcontinent can be proud of.....
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what about Quaid Azam statue?
we need also that, espcially Alama Iqbal statue for his dream of a free muslim country?
Let me write a list of people Pak can be proud of
1)NFAK
2)Noor Jehan
3)Imran Khan
4)Javed Miandad
5)Put a good Hockey player. I do not follow Hockey. But Pak used to have good team.
6)Faiz Ahmad Faiz
7)Ahmad Faraz
8)Prof. Abdus Salam
In politicians, Ayub Khan was probably the best of what Pak had. According to Ayub 65 war was started by Bhutto and not by him.
'Sorry Gandhi' - 105 years
later
Gandhi was barred from legal practice because he was Indian
A South African law society has apologised
posthumously to Mahatma Gandhi - 105 years after a
racist decision barred the young lawyer from practising.
In 1894 Gandhi became the first lawyer who was not
white to apply to practise in the then British colony of
Natal.
The Natal Law Society opposed his application because
he was Indian.
Current president of the Natal Law Society David
Randles made an apology in the Johannesburg
newspaper The Star.
"The society apologises unconditionally, albeit
posthumously, to the late Mahatma Gandhi for having
attempted to restrict his rights to practise as an
advocate in Natal," Mr Randles said.
He said the apology was extended to "all other aspirant
lawyers whose access to the profession was restricted
in any way on the basis of racial grounds".
Civil rights quest
Gandhi was already a qualified lawyer when he went to
South Africa.
Before returning to India in 1914, Gandhi had some
success in negotiating civil rights for Indians in Natal.
The former colony, now known as KwaZulu-Natal, is
home to South Africa's largest concentration of people of
Indian origin - many of them the descendents of
indentured employees who immigrated to work on sugar
plantations from the 1860s.
It was in Natal that Gandhi developed the philosophy of
passive resistance, which he used to spearhead the
campaign which led to India's independence from Britain
in 1947.