Washington is not doing enough!

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Pakistan says Washington not doing enough
By Ismail Khan
Thursday, 25 Sep, 2008 | 07:31 PM PKT |

PESHAWAR: As the United States pressures Pakistan to do more, Islamabad says it is Washington that is skirting around the real issue of providing the resources to Pakistan to deal with militancy in an effective manner, military and security officials said.
‘We have been saying this and raising this issue virtually at every tier including at the highest level, give us the capability we need, to effectively control the situation in our tribal areas but the Americans have been skirting around the issue’, these officials said in background interviews with Dawn.

The issue was once again raised with the Americans in the last interaction they had when Admiral Mullen, the Chairman of the U.S Joint Chief of Staff visited Islamabad on September 17, according to these officials.

‘When we ask for capability, they start talking about joint operations and training programmes.

We tell them ‘give us the capability and you will see more effective control of the tribal areas. And they tell us we are looking into it’, is how one military official described the Americans response.

‘We have been saying this for the last four years but there has not been any satisfactory answer’, he said.

These officials, who were privy to negotiations between the Pak-US military leaderships at various times, say that Pakistan has been asking for Night Vision Devices (NVDs), good communication and surveillance systems that can detect and track down militants’ communication besides transport and attack helicopters.

The price of one Cobra helicopter is said to be close to $20 million, making the demand by Pakistan for the military assistance to help combat militancy and terrorism as a multi billion dollar package.

What we need is air mobility and NVDs for night operations and not any training programmes. For two years, we have been putting our battalion through a six months rigorous counter-insurgency training programme before we send them into Fata’, the officials said.

Officials acknowledged that massive troop deployments alone would not solve the Fata conundrum. ‘The terrain is such that any number of the army divisions would fall short. It is tough out there. It’s not an easy job. It’s an area where forces are prone to ambushes, rocket attacks and IEDs.’

They said that what was required was the multiplication of efforts in order to deal with militancy on the one hand and preempt collateral damage on the other.

SUSPICIONS

The irony however, is that, according to this official, the Americans collect the few NVDs provided to the Pakistan Army for routine re-inspection after every three months. ‘Such is the level of trust between us. They fear that some of these NVDs may fall into the wrong hands.

Such is the level of trust deficit that some circles in the government strongly suspect American motives for putting two much emphasis on training and joint operation than on providing the necessary hardware to help Pakistan overcome problems in its own backyard.

Some government circles are weary and suspicious of large American foot-prints in Pakistan. ‘They want to penetrate our systems and they think that we are naïve not to know what they did in Vietnam and Cambodia’, said one skeptical official, like other officials, requesting he not be named due to sensitivity of the matter.
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Some senior officials are miffed that while the security forces are fighting a hard battle against militants in Bajaur, the US-led coalition forces across the border have done nothing to stop Afghan Taliban and foreign militants from getting into the Pakistani tribal region.

A security official said that the Commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan admitted that the level of violence in Bajaur’s neighbouring Afghan province of Kunar had dropped by almost 70% due to Pakistani security engagements in Bajaur.

‘The level of violence in Kunar has decreased at the expense of Bajaur, where it has gone up, and that basically because of the Afghan Taliban led by Qari Ziaur Rehman and his Al-Qaeda cohorts’, the official said.

‘Now one may ask, why our American friends who have been asking us to do more, not been able to do more on their side of the border in Kunar by stopping the infiltration of Taliban and foreign elements coming into our territory.

‘They have better capabilities, certainly better than the capability of a third world country’, the official remarked.

THE AMERICAN VERSION

One Pentagon official said that it was hard to put a dollar value on the Pakistan military’s wish-list but said that ‘it’s a continual list. It never ends.


A bit too long article (I tried to cut it short). America gets a dose of its own “… is not doing enough”!
This article also shows Pakistani officials raising the point I have raised here many time :smiley: (are they reading Gupshup???)

Lots of “trust” issue.

Re: Washington is not doing enough!

what issue have you been raising here?

Re: Washington is not doing enough!

washington needs to do more

the anarchy that is todays afghanistan needs to be brought under control to stabilise the region

"the US-led coalition forces across the border have done nothing to stop Afghan Taliban and foreign militants from getting into the Pakistani tribal region."

why would they stop them if they are running away..:) its the duty of pak army to keep a vigil on the borders..Nato is positioned in afganistan to defend afganistan not pakistan...

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I think the americans know that most of the equipment is going to be stationed on the eastern border, like most of the money that was sent.

Well then NATO/US should not complain, its NATO/US duty to keep a vigil on the border.. cuts both ways..

So why should Pakistan stop them when they go back to Afghanistan ie. running away from Pakistan?

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^ :hehe: smart thinking. i some what agree with vroom and you on this one.

thats precisely the message from washington ....if u cannot fight them in northern areas leave it to us ...

See now you are questioning your own logic :)

as if they've wonders in other places :)

about time I'd say.

This is a good tit for tat response

I am just getting sick and tired of the Americans and Afghans always accusing Pakistan of 'not doing enough' when we have lost more soldiers and civilians than everyone-else. This puppet or US puppy Karzai should shut his mouth. Him blaming Pakistan all the tiime (largely to cover up his own shortcomings) when his own house is not in order (and has never been since 1979!!) is laughable. Forget Kabul, he can't even step outside his own palace like a free man. He has to have US security guards with him round the clock. So what kind of a fri**in President is he?

Besides these Taliban nutcases originated from Afghanistan not Pakistan. If anything we should have a beef with them for not doing enough to prevent these nutcases and others (Uzbecks and Arabs) from crossing over into our territory and causing us needless pain.

we will chase them wherever they are...even if taliban run away from afganistan

thats wat they mean :)

earlier you said:


so you either have no clue what you are saying or you are here just to kill your time trying to talk against Pakistan.

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they were least bothered when they ran away to the land of pure now that that they are re grouping and attacking afganistan nato is threatening to bomb them whrever they are....

Let me write again so you can read slowly over and over:

  1. US attack Afghanistan, Taliban run to Pakistan, US blames Pakistan
  2. Pakistan attack Taliban they run to Afghanistan, US blames Pakistan
  3. Something happens in Afghanistan, US blames Pakistan
  4. US attacks Taliban in Afghanistan, they run to Pakistan, US blames Pakistan

^ don’t you think so Pakistan should allow US soldiers to enter FATA so they themselves can hunt talibanis and Pakistani soldiers can sit quite and watch tamasha between them without hurting any Paki soldiers? :smokin2:

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^ and allow them to kill Pakistani civilians?

Re: Washington is not doing enough!

^ so you think they will become Talibani after entering FATA :hehe: