People dont really know what Jesus looked like anyway…all those paintings were made hundreds of years after his death/ascension.
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MODS, PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD. COMPARING HAZRAT ISA (’alayhi sallam) TO A THIRD GRADE DRAVIDIAN HINDU ACTOR IS BOTH UN-ISLAMIC AND UN-PAKISTANI!!! YOU HAVE COMMITTED A SHIRK!! I can't believe I am saw this on a Islamic site!!!
lol no its not shirk!.. ![]()
Okay okay ..I will agree with you if you can just define shirk for us please. and the definition should contain something about prophets, right?
I am waiting…
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Un-islamic, I can buy that argument ..
shirk?? I want to know that too
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^Agree...
and also
He looks like Jesus as much as that picture of Jesus looks like Jesus
But the unislamic part is not comparing Hrithik to a picture of Jesus. The Unislamic part is the making of the painting of Jesus in the first place.
And try telling that to the Christians! They had to anthropomorphize to be able to worship. A transcendent God was just too distant to help them.
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So was Jesus a Muslim ??
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Yes .. why, you think otherwise ..
all prophets (from Adam to Mohammed) and their true followers of that time were muslims
Yes, I was under the impression that he was a Jew who founded Christianity :)
I am going to ignore the polite sarcastic humor ..:), and I like to ask you this ..
You think our Creator was playing trial and error when he was sending down different religions or do you think that Allah always sent the same message, just through different prophets
No, Jesus was born to MARY. only.
However, if your point is more broad in that all religions/God/Creator are (is) one then I do not dispute that.
its the basics foundation of muslim faith that my creator and the creator of any hindu, sikh, jew is the same super being
Judaism, Christianity and Islam have different set of religious rules to follow, for example observing sabbath was a rule for Jews and never for Muslims. Muslims believe that Islam is the final revelation from God that nullified the teachings of previous religions. So in this sense Jesus was never a Muslim and he never followed Islam. The same supreme being may be is the creator of all religions and races but the message did differ from time to time and prophet to prophet.
Not exactly accurate there bebo.
... Islam is the final revelation from God that nullified the teachings of previous religions.
Fortified, reinforced - not nullified.
Muslims believe that Islam is the final revelation from God that nullified the teachings of previous religions. So in this sense Jesus was never a Muslim and he never followed Islam.
I am sorry but your two statements do not make a single point. Nullifies means that the teaching of Jesus were valid till Islam. It was the same message, oneness of God, that all the prophets brought. Same message, same religion.
In fact what Fayax said is more appropriate way of explaining
I neither am nor pretended to be an expert on either Islam or Christianity - hence my questions.
However, your "expert" responses seem to echo what has been fed through your religious teachings rather than any knowldege of historical facts or widely accepted beliefs. As such, your arrogance is unfounded at best and obnoxious at worst. That explains why you are unable to provide any direct responses and have to resort to personal attacks when questioned.
Anyways, I don't intend coming down to your level. It was nice talking to you :)
If you had asked questions, it would be a different matter...but you were making statements borne of ignorance. Thats the problem.
Again you have contradicted yourself.
FYI I have never had a religious teacher. Its all from history books, documentaries of reputable sources and scriptures. AGAIN** you have made an ignorant statement asserting something about me that you have no knowldege of. **
My choice of not entertaining your unfounded claims is not based on my arrogance but strictly based on my choice of speaking to those who have something substantial to say.
And sorry I cannot say that it was nice talking to you ...cause if I did I would be lying.
I am sorry but your two statements do not make a single point. Nullifies means that the teaching of Jesus were valid till Islam. It was the same message, oneness of God, that all the prophets brought. Same message, same religion.
In fact what Fayax said is more appropriate way of explaining
Yes this one cluase may be the same but as for other obligations, religious messages delieverd to all of the prophets differ. And islam nullified as in viod the previous religions and their teachings. It says that respect all the prophets but Islam is the only religion acceptable to God now. Don't tell me that muslims do not believe that after God gave humanity the Quran, he declared all previous religions null and void and every human should embrace and follow Islam.
Yes this one cluase may be the same but as for other obligations, religious messages delieverd to all of the prophets differ. And islam nullified as in viod the previous religions and their teachings. It says that respect all the prophets but Islam is the only religion acceptable to God now. Don't tell me that muslims do not believe that after God gave humanity the Qur’an, he declared all previous religions null and void and every human should embrace and follow Islam.
After Quran yes, but before Quran the followers of Christ were true followers of Allah's religion of the time.
Same goes for the yahud. The Yahud of the time of Moses and of times before that will be judged by the teaching of the prophets of their time.
Don't tell me that muslims do not believe that after God gave humanity the Quran, he declared all previous religions null and void and every human should embrace and follow Islam.
No I am not debating that. You are right. But it does not mean that Islam says that those religion were not true religions, cause they were till the next one took over. And if they were indeed true religions, then how can and why would God send so many "True" religions and not one. The answer is, they were all the same religion. The difference was not in the basic belief system but maybe in the ways you pray and some rulings. And when it comes to that difference, even with in the era of Prophet Mohammed, the ways of praying and rulings on different matters changed over the period of time. So does that make Islam of Makkah (before Hijra) and Islam of Medina (After Hijra), two different religions?
FYI Mods, if you chose to split the thread and take it to Religion, please feel free to do that.
^ hmm I guess we are saying essentially the same thing just getting lost in cyber communication.
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hmm interesting I never thought any muslim can think in this way that every Prophet before Mohammed PBUH came with a new religion and a new message from Allah and Prophet Mohammed PBUH came with a totally diff and new religion from same Allah. Bacho mazaaq hai kiya ???
No, Jesus was born to MARY. only.
Please either use Vrigin Mary for Marian Bibi (s.a.)- she is one of the most regarded personalities who gave birth to Hazrat Isah (r.a.) as per Al Mariam in Chapter 19 of Al-Koran. In india, Christians show statues of Mariam without Hijaab- which is a shirk to show draw a picture or statue of a holy muslim woman and mother of a prophet.