Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Please tell me I don’t know. I would like to know that if Salafies who follow Quran and Sunnah are in fact right or wrong. I have doubts about them. They may be right or they may be wrong. If it’s true that Ibn Taymiyyah was himself a follower of Imam Hanbali then why don’t Salafies in modern times follow one of the four Imams?
One more question additional to this. Were there any Salafi Muslims (who did not follow one Imam) before Ibn Taymiyyah?
I would be very appreciated that if you answer these two questions. I want to hear from Salafi. Want to see if they are actually be able to answer these questions. I first look at the history that how it is formed. Then I have to decide which one is right.
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiy
To Salafies, how can you prove that Salafi is right. I am not saying they are either wrong or right. I just want them to prove themselves and Jazakallah Khair.
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiy
To Salafies, if you think you are right. Then why not answer these questions? I think it's important to know these. We should not follow the sect blindly.
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiy
No brother that were people go wrong. They see someone talking i follow only quran and sunnah and they are salafis and do not stick to one imam. This term is been coined by this generation.
Now there is a hadith of the Prophet which says the they are 3 best generations after the Prophet 1) Sahabas 2) Tabieen 3) Tabe Tabieen. Now these 3 generations are ranked amongst the Salaf as Saaliheen. Now, i do agree the Salafis always refer to these 3 generations sticking to the Hadith of the Prophet.
But to call someone a salafi is a big challenge, let me tell you why the Sahabas were one unique generation in the whole of mankind who learnt things direclty and acted upon it from the noblest of human thast the Prophet.
Now are we suppose to equal to them, what I eman is we can call ourselves salafis but are we in deeds equal to them. Do we give food to others who are hungry who is our neighbour is just one of those eg.
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiy
First let me clear myself I am a Muslim par duniya ne humko ye naam dediya ki hum salafi. Firstly to act on something without knowledge is just illussion.
You follow any particular sect but before acting upon it, gain some knowledge and the Prophet always asked us to gain knowledge. Well, for all the worldly matters we are first up to gain knowledge but not wrt religion. Now a distinction should be made.
When our elders tell us please study well and get good grades we hardly listne to there talk and throw to the bin, but when the same elders speak wrt to religion we listen to them like a lame person. Again why this distinction.
Same way to follow a sect first gain knowledge, before you act upon it because here you do things for the pleasure of Allaah alone, and deeds which are for the love of Allaah but are deviated thats not for the pleasure of Allaah.
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiy
I know brother, they are few groups who say that we formed 100 years back, but i somehow aint confused with them, in there same websites they differ on our occurence. Well, now leave that alone when we say we follow the first 3 generations is this a group which formed 100 years back or from the time of Prophet.
I tell you i follow the way Prohet does, with knowledge, authentic evidence so that i dont deviate from the right path of the Prophet and the Sahabas does this mean it occurred only 100 years back answer is no.
Well, they are few people who tend to tell you that only 4 madhabs were there, so where did the 5th madhab come thats directing towards us. I question back its similar to a son asking a father, how do you come into this world before me.
When the salafis say we do as the Prophet does thas with authentic evidence following the hadith with authentic hadith the Sihah sitta as its the Ijma of the umma as the 6 best prophetic tradition. So when did this sihah sitta come into existenct 100 years back or 1000 years back.
But, as i told you follow a particular sect but dont be a staunch follower if you have authentic evidence and a stronger evidence compared to what you were previously following its obligatory on you to follow something with stronger daleel.
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiyyah?
all imam have been quoted to say something similar to this "if u find an authentic hadith different from my opinion, then stick to the authentic hadith, for that is my way"....
now if someone rejects a hadith because the imam had said something else, then he is not even a follower of the imam....
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiyyah?
Taqi al-Din Ahmad Ibn Taymiyyah was a member of the Hanbali school and believed that he was returning Islam to it’s sources, The Quran and sunnah. He is the primary source of the Wahabi school. His grandfather and father were well-known scholars of the Hanbali school. He studied hadith from Zaynab bint Makki. He believed in a very literal interpretation of the Quran, and was imprisoned on multiple occasions for attributing human characteristics to Allah (SWT), forbidding people to visit saint’s tombs, and for issuing a ruling making it more difficult for a man to divorce his wife. He had a huge following, though he was considered outside of the establishment, but unlike Ibn Wahab, he was not considered to be an apostate. He was also famous for his amazing memory, and was compared to an encyclopedia.
His primary belief was that the sunnah of the first three generations (the salaf) with the Qur’an, constituted a infallible guide to life. Any deviation from their practice was bidah.
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I have doubts about them.
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...and those are?
Compare salafis with all other sects... most other sects have boatload of innovations, different ways of worship, grave worshiping, peer worshiping, imam worshiping, jadoo, tavweez ganda, superstitious beliefs that go back to hindus and other religions, etc., etc., etc. while salafis/wahhabi, etc. have none of that.
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Exactly… agree with you… even world greatest salafi site **(islam-qa) **clearly writes about the **virtues and merits **of 4 great imams but only says that do not follow them **“blindly”… ** as in quran that **if you do not know something , ask from a person who knows it… **so following any imam is the same thing… regarding the differences between 4 imams or hanafi or salafi schools of thought … they are of .000000001significance … rather i say no significance … all have the same sources that is quran and hadees (6 and more books) and all the differences will be how you **intrprete **, "istadlal" , **“isthakrag” **means **“Deduction” **from these sources … which can be different or vary from imam to imam or from salafis … but the “**Frame of Reference” **will always be same right from beginning to the qiyyamah , inshallah… all the **minor differences will **always occur in the same **“Frame” **not from outside…as in quran that these people will keep on differentiating as they are produced of differences… so differences are the basic **characteristics **of a human being and **essence **of a society… thet were , they are and they will remain… but it will not change your deen or religion in any way…
Re: Was Ibn Taymiyyah a follower of Imam Hanbali path? Were Salafis before Ibn Taymiyyah?
The first part of paragraph is nothing but a cut and paste. And for people liek you, i call blind followers. Before passing any comment, have you read the books of Ibn Taymiyah or you completely blindly copied and pasted from the worlds best website just joking.
Brother before passing comments like these know, what each and every sentence mean. He was imprisoned right, so was Imam Abu Hanifa, even Imam Bukhari went through a struggle in his life time but you can be imprisoned to fight justice too.
I respect Ibn Taymiyah coz he followed the Quran and Sunnah, otherwise neither I follow him nor do I have rever him. He is one of the best scholars and no denial of it.
I hope you can grap books of Ibn Taymiyah or even his disciple Ibn Qayyim before passing those comments.
For the bold part above, for each one above I need authentic evidence, about the situation.
Well for the first part Allaah has physical characteristics, well we say as mentioned in the Quran dare you say no for it. But those physical characteristics similar to a human no way, also proved from the Quran.
For eg. Allaah encompasses all hearing. A human mind with his limited knowledge perceives Allaah is got ears. Welll are those attributes similar to us no way. For eg Allaah can hear you, but me I cant hear anything .5 miles aways from me. This eg was an explanation. Well to know Allaah is got these attributes figuratively my answer is Allaah knows the best.
Secondly visiting shrines well he is not the first one object they are many, if you believe in visiting shrines of saints good for you and Allaah knows the best and Allaah guide.
Well, overall if the aforementioned explanation is helped you to understand the topic well and good, otherwise PM me. Since this is a sensitive topic, i dont wont to bicker around for this.
