Was hz fatima(ra) correct when she demanded fadak as HER INTERITANCE?

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Re: Was hz fatima(ra) correct when she demanded fadak as HER INTERITANCE?

@BOY-NICE

What ?? How on earth did you reach to this conlclusion based on the above cited traditions? What does these traditions have to do with the inheritance of prophets by their biological/actual heirs?

it has to, because the narration states that for scholars there is no material inheritance, And then i cited a narration from shia book where shia imam said that the AHlebayt are the scholars.. So one narration states that no material inheritance for scholars, other narration states that Ahlebayt are scholars…

Wherever the Shia text mentions the inheritance of prophets, it does from two perspectives:

1. the spritual inheritors of prophets, are their successors and the learned scholars since they inherit the knowledge of prophets,

2. material posessions that are inherited by the biological progeny/heirs of Prophets.

The traditions relied on are talking about the first aspect only and thus it provided an an opening for the Nawasib to to commit dishonesty and present them as an orthodox belief of the Shia. Pertaining to the traditions cited by you:

-Ulema are not the actual son of Porphets

• Prophets are not their actual fathers
• Knowledge is not an actual possession that can be distributed.

what all you copy pasted from deceiving ansar.org is pure stupidity and the writers of those arctiles themselves are absconding since we provided them the refutations to their stupidities…

Firstly THE SHIA IMAM STATES THAT AHLEBAYT ARE THE ULAMA.. read the hadees with open eyes, i didnt make that by myself, its the shia imam who is declaring that ULAMA ARE THE AHLEBAYT.. SO substitute that in the hadees which states that there is no materialistic inheritance for ulama(ahlebayt acc to hadees).

My question is simple: Prophet(Saw) said there is no inheritance for ULAMA now my is hz fatima(ra) part of ulama or not.. (and also plz keep in mind the hadees where shia imam taught you that who are ulama)

As for the second category, i.e. Hadiths talking about the inheritance of actual/biological heirs pf prophets, we read in various Shia Hadith books:

Zurara narrated that Abi Jaffar (as) said: ‘Ali inherited the knowledge of Allah’s messenger and Fatima inherited his property.’

1. Al-Kafi, Volume 7 page 86
2. Basair al-Darajat, page 314
3. Tahdib al-Ahkam, Volume 9 page 277
4. Min la Yahdrahu al-Faqih, Volume 4 page 261
5. Manaqib al Abi Talib, Volume 2 page 26
6. Allamah Majlisi declared it Hasan in Mirat al-Uqool, Volume 23 page 32

well either you should say that this narration is weak.. or say that fatima(ra) doesnt come under the category of ulama(those who posses complete knowledge)

1. the spritual inheritors of prophets, are their successors and the learned scholars since they inherit the knowledge of prophets,

2. material posessions that are inherited by the biological progeny/heirs of Prophets.

Just see the stupidity of the oxymoron…

Because we know that many prophets biological sons became their spiritual inheritors.. So how on earth did they receive the material inheritance at the same time, that only means that they didnt receive any materialistic inheritance, since prophet(Saw) declared that there is no materialistic inheritance for the ulama. He said : Ambiya did not leave dinars and dirhams as inheritance. He rejected the idea that there can be inheritance for ulama..

So the only option left for you is that fatima(ra) is not from the category of ulama(those who have complete knowledge) or say that she was not eligible for materlialistic inheritance…

In the light of what I mentioned above, what does this have to do with the case of Fatima Zahra (sa) who was asking her share “as a biological heir of prophet” ???

prophet(Saw) didnt mention anything about biological or spiritual relations.. he just said that ULAMA are not entitled to receive materialistic inheritance.. So my question is very clear do you consider hz fatima(ra) from ulama yes or no.?

Following the absurd interpreation just made by you of the above cited Shia traditons, do we interpret that since Ulema are (biologcial ?) )the heirs of the prophets, hence Ulama are prohibited from inheriting material posessions from their own respective biological fathers??? lol

lol, ..firstly what did the shia imam say teach you regarding who ulama are? Why are you so afraid to read the teaching of your own imam…

فنحن العلماء وشيعتنا المتعلمون

He said: We(ahlebayt) are the ulama. Our shia(followers) are the seekers of knowledge.

Now your imam doesnt counts non ahlebayt under the category of ulama… he calls them our shia… And i guess all your greatest scholars were infact shia(followers).. So before making those idiotic arguments read your own ahadees and what your imams taught you.

Moreover there are plethora of evidence of Holy Quran and in Sunni text that proves that prophet’s biological heris do inherit the material posessions of their father-prophets, so your interpretation fall flat on from all aspects!!!

lol , indeed this is the most funniest part, at one place you say that prophet’s heirs inherited material possessions and at the same time they were the inheritors of knowledge of their father and they were the ulama of their time..now the narration says that there is no material inheritance for the ulama..lol.. just check out how much contradictions are present in your beliefs..