Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
Next, I keep hearing that the Swastika represented Godlessness and the slaughter of Jews is nothing to do Christianity.
Which view is more truer?
Hitler was a christian
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
Next, I keep hearing that the Swastika represented Godlessness and the slaughter of Jews is nothing to do Christianity.
Which view is more truer?
Hitler was a christian
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
**Ju Bhi tha Hitler tha khra banda Muslmanon ny Zameen di thi na kambakhton ko Baitul Muqads pr Qabza kr liya na on bachy khuchy Yahodion ny Israel bnany ka muqa muslmano ny diya.Os time Hitlor ky sath mil kr kuchal dyty sanpon ko:mad: **
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
why kill jewish people? was the vatican involved?
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
There is a difference between atheism and communism.
Is it your opinion or a fact? if fact give me some reference.
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That would have resulted in Muslims ruling the world, instead of jews ![]()
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
Is it your opinion or a fact? if fact give me some reference.
Post #10
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
well actually he wasnt strictly an athiest, he was a different breed of christian. He had a catholic upbringing and later on was influenced by a mystical german breed of Christianity mixed with nietzchean/darwinist philosophy.
Here is one site about hitler’s christian background.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
http://www.nobeliefs.com/henchmen.htm
The motive for killing the jews was a mix of secular and religious reasons. The “race purification” scheme was rooted in darwinist thought, with the implicit assumption that the jews (along with the poles, handicapped people and others) were an inferior kind, a prejudice rooted in european christianity.
Furthermore jews carry a lot of bitterness about the silence of the Pope about the killings, and refusal to specifically condemn places like Auschwitz.
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
last night i heard in news & views on ARY , speech of Dr. Zakir , he stated that
Hitler was a Christian & officialy it is said that he had killed 6 million people but unoffcilayy he the figure of people killed by him are 60 Million, this is FYI.
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
Overall Athiesm is only caused destruction to world from Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge i forgot the name, Marx, Mussolini(Hitlers accomplice). Millions have been massacred, because of the concept of Communism.
Hitler what you call as holocaust killed so many Jews coz they believed in God, In Russia, muslims were massacred, Combodia millions massacred. Under stalins rule, millions massacred.
I guess Bin Laden and company are atheists too?
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Can we get into facts tell me how many people died due to Bin laden and compared to who believed in atheism please get facts then we will go ahead.
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More indeed died .. but that was hitler's and other folk's ignorance ..... I dont think he was right to do what he did. Infact every atheist has the right to think and do what he thinks is right. In my opinion he was wrong. But Bin Laden did it for a holy cause in the name of his religion .. words sent by God to backup what he did. Now you might say he is ignorant too... and that will be an endless debate.
My point was if your faith is the factor of what you are as a human.. than Hitler is not guilty cuz he didnt believe in faith.. he believed in LOGIC. Now how could someone with faith be involved in mass killing. And mind you if a person like Bin Laden and his folks were around the time of Hitler I am sure they would have been just as bad or even worse. All really truely that he believed in was that his race was the best and he would do whatever it takes to keep it that way. Which in my opinion was really stupid...ignorant and childish.
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Is it logic get the facts right was hitler the only Athiest i m talking about. What about the others look into the history and dont stick to one place please:D .
My dear friend your a athiest i respect you for your belief, but you are stating Athiests are one esoteric group, they are allowed to do anything but not others. Like how Islam is an Ideology, Athiesm is also and Ideology.
Its like I believe I am a Muslim, I believe I am athiest. I believe I am an secularist.
My argument goes further I deny bin laden existence or he is a state sponsored terrorist. Well there is a huge argument about him nowadays, just imagine with all the technology its so difficult to find OBL, bs. If you have watched MI3 movie it can just help you out.
Yes according to your belief of Athiesm you are the most rational guy available on the face of earth and the most matured. If OBL was alive, if Hitler was not there, get out of this ifs and butts.
My question is again i repeat again get me the facts and the evidence how many OBL killed and during the Atheist regimes. Then we will see whose ideology was more dreadful.
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
Its like I believe I am a Muslim, I believe I am athiest. I believe I am an secularist. My argument goes further I deny bin laden existence or he is a state sponsored terrorist. Well there is a huge argument about him nowadays, just imagine with all the technology its so difficult to find OBL, bs. If you have watched MI3 movie it can just help you out.
Yes according to your belief of Athiesm you are the most rational guy available on the face of earth and the most matured. If OBL was alive, if Hitler was not there, get out of this ifs and butts.
My question is again i repeat again get me the facts and the evidence how many OBL killed and during the Atheist regimes. Then we will see whose ideology was more dreadful.
To get the facts right like I mentioned earlier maybe you didnt read it, Hitler's era was indeed deadlier than what we witness today. His ideology was the dominance of His race. And that also makes him a raciest for profiling people in such manner. He wasnt after the people who didnt believe in what he believed but infact he was after the ones whom he considered a disgarce to the human race. If thats your defination of an atheist than indeed you are right.
I think the atheists I know are the people who believe in humanity and wont kill other people cuz they dont seem to worship in the same god. As if different Gods created christains and muslims. I can go over and over the crusades and the muslim inavasions in the earlier century and ironically you will find the the number of people killed in a name of any religion were more.
With that said and done, I still dont think Hitler killed anybody in the name of God. He killed people from what he considered right (sadly that was wrong). But how do you justify the killing in the name of God. Lets assume your claim to be right and settle on that. Lets say the atheists killed more. Would that still justify the killings done be the people of religion? If so, then I will speak no further.! :)
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Also accordting to Wikipedia
"
Atheism, in its broadest sense, is the absence of belief in a deity or deities. This definition encompasses both people who assert the nonexistence of gods and those who make no claim about whether gods exist or not. Narrower definitions of atheism typically include only the former and exclude non-believing agnostics and other non-theists.
Although some atheists tend toward skepticism](Skepticism - Wikipedia) and secular](Secularism - Wikipedia) philosophies such as **humanism](Humanism - Wikipedia), naturalism](Naturalism (philosophy) - Wikipedia) and **materialism](Materialism - Wikipedia), there is no single system of philosophy which all atheists share, nor does atheism have institutionalized rituals or behaviors."
This might help you understand my point. ![]()
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You can please refer to post #10 in the same thread. Well Atheist believed in materialistic life, all is there in that thread. I would rather be happy then with your rebuttal.
I am not only pointing at hitler, why only Hitler please take into consideration the complete set of Atheists.
I will also speak no further unless, you watch the post #10. So you agree athiests also kill, people killing in the name of religion well if there is tyranny, oppression in this world then why not.
Please do go ahead with crusades and muslim killings also, but with right numbers well I am waiting for it.
Here you conveniently using the name of Hitler and nothign further. Well Atheists believe in no God, but they have there own set of rules and regulations. Do you know what happened to the Hippies of 60's, even they believed in peace and harmony, but there definition was completely different.
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Answer to your #36 Bhaisaab, you believe in Atheism its an ideology what else is it. Do you believe you are an atheist of you dont.
Ideology - An orientation that characterizes the thinking of a group or nation.
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Let me copy and past this again
Although some atheists tend toward skepticism and secular philosophies such as humanism, naturalism and materialism,** there is no single system of philosophy which all atheists share, nor does atheism have institutionalized rituals or behaviors**
If you notice there is no single philosophies that atheists share. Hence you cant blame all the atheists for what other atheists did. You can bash the ones who share a similar view. I dont and I wont defend them either. I am just trying to clearify the idea of atheism which you dont seem to understand. I will read the post you mentioned and get back to you. ![]()
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
extactly and here again
there is no single system of philosophy which all atheists share, nor does atheism have institutionalized rituals or behaviors."
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And the 60 million killed are what?
Jews, russians french what? Where is the proof or reference?
Re: Was Hitler a Christian or an Atheist?
What more single system you want rather than the Atheists believe there is not God, is this synchronouse with the beliefs of all the Atheist your kidding now. This is the foundation for every Atheist for you to pass as an Atheist the most important step is believe in no God.
Muslims belief there is One true God, the Unseen creator this is the foundation of a faith for every Muslim.
Well The Muslims Just Believe there is No God or Diety, But Allaah. Even we believe the bold part of what you believe but we go further and say there is One God in truth.