War Mongering Hysteria by Indian Media & Officials

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Weren't you the one wanting "peace talks" with the Taliban, an organization ACTIVELY bombing and murdering Pakistani citizens on a regular basis, and admitting to it?!?

But its India we should be concerned about...

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lol...

you certainly should be more concerned about Ch Nisar's recent statement than burn your precious brain cells stressing about what I say on an online forum.

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Dont flatter yourself...

In this case, Taliban murdering Pakistani's is ok apparently, but Indian media threats after five of there soldiers are killed is reason for grave concern.

Seriously, do you realize how stupid that sounds?

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Lets not derail the thread. Kindly stick to the topic.

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Personally I think it is the Pakistan military that is independently of the government and trying to provoke conflict with India, like they did in Kargil.

This way they can put pressure on Nawaz Sharif and maybe even create another situation for a military takeover.

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^ so nothing to do with Indian Elections and BJP campaign?

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^^^^It could be that also.

I also would not be surprised that there are agreements between both indian and pakistani politicans to keep conflict alive so that they can stay in power.

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Why is this even being discussed? Some retired general and some politician said something on some tv station! So what? People can say whatever they want. India isn't the Taliban. India has official positions on issues and officials that convey the governments position. I find no congruity between the official position and what these guys are saying, so why does it matter?
People will say and do things on TV for ratings. Let me remind you, ladies and gentleman, that India is a third world country with a population that is large illiterate. They don't get nuance, which is what foreign policy is. They get bellicose...and that's what they're being served here. This is nonsense for internal consumption.

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Just purely from an objective standpoint ...(forget what Indian media is saying for a second)

do all of us agree that 5 Indian soldiers were killed or not? i checked different pakistani newspapers and I didn't see our army disputing this fact...so it is safe to assume that 5 Indian soldiers were killed

next question is.... who killed them? Indians are saying that Pakistani soldiers killed them and we are saying that we did not but chances are that some terrorist group or Kashmiri militants conducted that attack..is that right?

because if it is then isn't this our responsibility to not let anyone cross the border to go conduct such attacks?

it has also been proved now that all the terrorists who conducted Mumbai attacks belonged to pakistan ...we can always make an argument how incompetent Indian armed forces are who could not resist these terrorists in both incidences but that is a different topic and the fundamental question is still there that those terrorists or militants came from our land...

if armed forces are firing at LOC from both sides, then it is understandable and the collateral damage is expected (as sad as it is) but the incidences cited above involve non-military militants actually crossing the border from our side and carrying out attacks in india. that is a totally different proposition. we denied any involvement in Mumbai attacks in the beginning but then our govt accepted that all the terrorists were from pakistan.

if one more mumabi type attack takes place that is arranged and conducted by terrorists who come from pakistan, how can you blame india to make noise and fuss considering they are good at propaganda war?

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Who says we cannot see a conspiracy theory behind everything. BTW did you know that the recent Indian submarine explosion was also the work of terrorists from Pakistan.

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Well, the nature of the conflict is such that such things are bound to happen.

Such incidents are because there is a conflict, not the other way around. If you dont want to resolve the issue, then such things will continue to happen. Why should this come as a surprise? What did they expect would come of this situation in Kashmir? were they expecting anything good to come out of it?

When they have so many of their soldiers stationed in a part of the world where there is a long standing conflict, then I assume they understand that their soldiers are in harms way.

Either resolve the issue at hand or let it fester, and expect such things to happen.

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well..indians are good at propaganda and they put a really bad name to us across the globe....so we shd try to minimize these activities from our end (as hard as it is).....

we have been blaming india doing insurgency in Baluchistan but i never saw our govt staging a campaign the way indians do

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well....lol..i was actually surpsied that how come they didn't blame ISI for that one!

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maybe these drums of war in indian media is because elections are near?

when are elections in india?

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I don’t think we are being off topic its all kind of related to the main topic and as long as nothing is said which is offensive to gs rules i feel it should remain as it is/unedited with. Or unless there are personal objections to the person it is directed towards. That’s what i think but im new to this. A bit of playful teasing on either side is not harmful as long as everyone is raising valid points which i think we all were. Official pronouncements on either side change every 3 weeks. They are so temporary but the aftereffects of war are permanent. India committed to peace, friendship with Pakistan but warns its patience has limits – The Express Tribune While India’s media seem a bit belligerent

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Indian politicians love to bark. I suppose it keeps the illiterate section of society happy.

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elections are in 2014 but who knows could be. It's often a way to overlook internal issues is to point to an outsider. I mean the same goes for both sides i guess. There is often an ultrafocus on Pakistan in India and on India in Pakistan. Internally there's a lot to fix in both countries but when the focus is on the outsider and protecting against them then little is done to help the actual people who need help. Issues of corruption are swept under the rug.

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I condemn what happened at the Art Gallery where a peaceful exhibition of paintings were vandalised by Bajrang Dal, who also routinely harass Indians who are West-friendly as well. Paintings by 11 Pakistanis and 6 Indians were attacked so both sides suffered but I can imagine it would be worse for Pakistanis visiting a different country. It is sad when bigoted people think attacking art or creative expression is the way to make a point. http://archives.dawn.com/weekly/gallery/archive/080308/gallery2.htm

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Despite the tension on both sides peace groups have not stopped collaborating with the other side. Connecting youth: As tempers run high at the border, India and Pakistan find ways to take the high road – The Express Tribune A new platform allowing communication between citizens of both sides called Baatcheet was launched on Wednesday. Baatcheet consists of 2 projects- campus connection and the Skype dosti project. Their next project involves bringing Indian and Pakistan singers together to sing similar compositions. A while back India and Pakistan jointly became the world youth peace champions due to this particular friendship. They faced tough competition from rivalling countries.