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*Originally posted by Nisaa: *
Lets jus wait n watch wot happens!!
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thats right... waqar is one of the greatest bowlers but time has caught up with him... does anyone really think he's 32? he's probably around 35 or so .... but just to see him in a pakistan uniform one last time with hurling run up and side-on action is something i'd love to witness one last time... so we should just wait
wat i don’t understand is why everybody is critisizng his ability i mean waqar younis is a proven living legend he has done it all and seen it all. if it wasn’t for wasim and waqar feud in the 90’s then maybe he would have taken more wickets in test and odi level instead of being left out of the team under king wasim’s reign as kaptaan of pakistan!!!
also, waqar bhai is 31 years old and for most cricketers these days that’s the start of the 2cond phase of one’s cricketing career, cricketers who stay physically and mentally fit can still compete regardless of their age, i mean there are lots of cricketers who are in their 30’s and still playing well.
waqar bhai has lost just a little bit of pace but that desire 2 win, the determination and the zip is still there he can still mistify batsmen with the variance found in his bowling. most importantly of all i don’t see why he wants to just carry on for 1 more year when he can still play for 3/4 years depending upon his fitness and desire to carry on @ test level most likely due to pcb policy of grooming younger players for the odi set up.
watever the decision taken by waq’ bhai i will always admire him as one of the most successful and deadly exponents of reverse swing in the history of the game, along with other bowling gr8’s ofcourse.
all the best waq’ ur the man! 
Maybe he is 21 years of age. 
**waq’ Born on: 16 November 1971, Vehari, Punjab ** satisfied back 2 u 2!!!
32 next month…
I am sure you saw his birth certificate.
yeah i witnessed his birth and saw his name being printed on the birth certificate.
Calm down bhai mere. 
^^ peace man 
just messing with you no hard feelings
I don’t see any disagreement with what you have written and I don’t see anyone criticisizing him on his past performance. It would be simply denying reality.
However, the point is that should he continue based on what he achieved 5 or 10 years ago, or should he retire from international cricket on a high note. And I guess majority are of the opinion that he should call it a day gracefully. Anyway this is his career and he is the one to make a final decision
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Nope. He wants to be back in the team within a year. Say mid 2004, he plays for another year, that is 2005 and then ditches the team and announces retirement. That is not very good planning for the WC in 2007. He will deny an upcoming bowler like Gul or Shabbir the required and necessary experience. I would rather play a bowler who will be with us for the next world cup. Younis should retire now, failing that PCB should ignore him.
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i dont agree with u on this one. Waqar is by far one of the best ballers in the country rite now. Umar Gul and Shabbir are just mediocre medium pacers who are gonna get thrashed by quality batsmen. You say what the south africans did to Gul.
The World Cup is in 4 years...who knows whats gonna happen by then...Waqar still has a good 2 years in him, he should be selected in the team...too beef up our pace attack. We need a third fast bowler.....
He is Waqar Younis....afterall. One the greatest fast bowlers of all time. He does not deserve to be treated like this.
aqal nahin ayee iss banday ko abhi tak...
Waqar Younis on growing up and not growing old](http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/OCT/272838_WCI_09OCT2003.html)
Did you come to Warwickshire with a view to winning your Test place back?
Not really. I didn’t really come to England this summer to play cricket. But I came to see Mushtaq Ahmed play at Edgbaston in May and Warwickshire asked if I was interested in replacing Shane Bond. I’d had a couple of months’ break by then and it was a good opportunity.
Did you learn your cricket in Sharjah?
I was young when we lived in Sharjah. I used to go and watch Pakistan play and get their autographs. I never thought I’d be playing with Imran Khan and Javed Miandad a few years later. I didn’t even really play cricket until I went back to school in Pakistan when I was 11 or 12.
What was life like off the field in England for a Pakistani teenager in the early 1990s?
The first few years I played county cricket, I just used to go out and play, then come back and sleep, get up in the morning and go out and play again. The players were friendly but I was nervous and struggled with the language. I spoke a little bit of English but it was hard to pick up the different accents in the dressing-room. But I enjoyed my time at Surrey and Glamorgan. Everything was different – different culture, different conditions every day. You learned so much so quickly.
Who taught you how to bowl reverse swing?
Nobody taught me but because we play on dry surfaces in Pakistan the ball naturally gets scuffed up and starts reversing. Most of the bowlers in Pakistan do it. I don’t know when it started: I never saw Sarfraz play, for instance. But Imran and Wasim used to do it. You learn a lot from watching. I learned from both of those two.
Do you think English suspicions of your bowling methods were inspired by jealousy?
I wouldn’t say it was jealousy. The thing is no one knew what we were doing, so everyone thought it was some kind of cheating. Once Darren Gough started doing it, it started to be called “reverse swing”. When we were doing it, everyone was saying “what’s going on here?”
What lasting damage has fast bowling done to your body?
I’ve had two stress fractures of my back – the first one kept me out of the World Cup win in 1992 – so I’ll probably have a bad back when I’m older. And bad knees and sore ankles too.
How frustrating was missing the NatWest Challenge? You made some fairly scathing criticisms in the press.
That wasn’t really about the Pakistan team in general, or being dropped. I wasn’t saying “Pick me – I should be playing”. But I won’t allow people like Shoaib Akhtar, or anyone, to come out and say stupid things about my career and how I’ve got things wrong. They should keep their opinions to themselves. I just wanted to say Shoaib should concentrate on his cricket because he has a lot to prove and he hasn’t really achieved what he could have done in his career so far.
Pakistan have changed captain 45 times in 10 years. Are you hoping for another turn-about?
I’ve seen the reports that they’ve offered me a farewell game but no one from the Pakistan set-up has spoken to me since the World Cup. I went and spoke to the chairman and gave him a report on the World Cup but after that I haven’t heard a thing. No one told me I wasn’t captain any more. I just heard that Rashid was the new captain.
The Pakistan dressing room is famously fractious but what was the best team spirit you’ve ever been part of?
We never had a bad dressing room. We had bad times. It happens in any dressing room. You live day in, day out together and you’re bound to have arguments. The best moments? Winning the World Cup – I was injured for the tournament but I felt part of the celebrations when the team came back with the trophy. We won two series in England and came back to draw two years ago. We beat Australia a couple of times; that was brilliant.
What’s next?
For the winter I have an offer from South Africa and one from a club in Australia. I’d like to play another season in England. I might go back and do something in the national academy when I finish playing. I definitely want to stay in the game.
Thirty-one is very young to be thinking about retirement. Are you really only 31?
Yeah. Everyone always had something to say about my age. I am only 31 but I’ve been playing for a very long time.
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I wouldn't say it was jealousy. The thing is no one knew what we were doing, so everyone thought it was some kind of cheating.** Once Darren Gough started doing it, it started to be called "reverse swing". **
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Waqar Younis on growing up and not growing old
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Did you come to Warwickshire with a view to winning your Test place back?
Not really. I didn't really come to England this summer to play cricket. But I came to see Mushtaq Ahmed play at Edgbaston in May and Warwickshire asked if I was interested in replacing Shane Bond. I'd had a couple of months' break by then and it was a good opportunity.
Did you learn your cricket in Sharjah?
I was young when we lived in Sharjah. I used to go and watch Pakistan play and get their autographs. I never thought I'd be playing with Imran Khan and Javed Miandad a few years later. I didn't even really play cricket until I went back to school in Pakistan when I was 11 or 12.
What was life like off the field in England for a Pakistani teenager in the early 1990s?
The first few years I played county cricket, I just used to go out and play, then come back and sleep, get up in the morning and go out and play again. The players were friendly but I was nervous and struggled with the language. I spoke a little bit of English but it was hard to pick up the different accents in the dressing-room. But I enjoyed my time at Surrey and Glamorgan. Everything was different – different culture, different conditions every day. You learned so much so quickly.
Who taught you how to bowl reverse swing?
Nobody taught me but because we play on dry surfaces in Pakistan the ball naturally gets scuffed up and starts reversing. Most of the bowlers in Pakistan do it. I don't know when it started: I never saw Sarfraz play, for instance. But Imran and Wasim used to do it. You learn a lot from watching. I learned from both of those two.
Do you think English suspicions of your bowling methods were inspired by jealousy?
I wouldn't say it was jealousy. The thing is no one knew what we were doing, so everyone thought it was some kind of cheating. Once Darren Gough started doing it, it started to be called "reverse swing". When we were doing it, everyone was saying "what's going on here?"
What lasting damage has fast bowling done to your body?
I've had two stress fractures of my back – the first one kept me out of the World Cup win in 1992 – so I'll probably have a bad back when I'm older. And bad knees and sore ankles too.
How frustrating was missing the NatWest Challenge? You made some fairly scathing criticisms in the press.
That wasn't really about the Pakistan team in general, or being dropped. I wasn't saying "Pick me – I should be playing". But I won't allow people like Shoaib Akhtar, or anyone, to come out and say stupid things about my career and how I've got things wrong. They should keep their opinions to themselves. I just wanted to say Shoaib should concentrate on his cricket because he has a lot to prove and he hasn't really achieved what he could have done in his career so far.
Pakistan have changed captain 45 times in 10 years. Are you hoping for another turn-about?
I've seen the reports that they've offered me a farewell game but no one from the Pakistan set-up has spoken to me since the World Cup. I went and spoke to the chairman and gave him a report on the World Cup but after that I haven't heard a thing. No one told me I wasn't captain any more. I just heard that Rashid was the new captain.
The Pakistan dressing room is famously fractious but what was the best team spirit you've ever been part of?
We never had a bad dressing room. We had bad times. It happens in any dressing room. You live day in, day out together and you're bound to have arguments. The best moments? Winning the World Cup – I was injured for the tournament but I felt part of the celebrations when the team came back with the trophy. We won two series in England and came back to draw two years ago. We beat Australia a couple of times; that was brilliant.
What's next?
For the winter I have an offer from South Africa and one from a club in Australia. I'd like to play another season in England. I might go back and do something in the national academy when I finish playing. I definitely want to stay in the game.
Thirty-one is very young to be thinking about retirement. Are you really only 31?
Yeah. Everyone always had something to say about my age. I am only 31 but I've been playing for a very long time.
hahaha i remember reading Ian Bothem’s autobiography in which he said that he remembers when he first saw waqar he thought that waqar was atleast 25-26, back in 1991.
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hahaha i remember reading Ian Bothem's autobiography in which he said that he remembers when he first saw waqar he thought that waqar was atleast 25-26, back in 1991.
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I remember Waqar having big ol Wadera type of mustache when he started playing.
No offense to Waqar whats the point in hiding his age, I've seen much older bowlers do well in international cricket, if he really thinks he can gain a position in the team only based on his performance then he should try, he doesn't need to hide behind his age.
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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
I remember Waqar having big ol Wadera type of mustache when he started playing.
No offense to Waqar whats the point in hiding his age, I've seen much older bowlers do well in international cricket, if he really thinks he can gain a position in the team only based on his performance then he should try, he doesn't need to hide behind his age.
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and who told u for so sure that he is not 31......his mom or his dad?oh ok.. i got it... may be u used to work in Maternity room of that hospital where waqar was born
i mean even as a muslim we are not supposed to make accusations unless we have solid proof...and u r u have absloutly no proof but u r so sure of it.....think abt it
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unless we have solid proof..t
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he does not have any proof but Umair seems to know how it goes in Pak... i played school and District cricket in Pak...and i know how easy it is to prove that u r younger than ur age.......with fake birth certificates and stuff....it would cost less than 5 bucks.... alot of my teammates were 25-26 and they were playing under 19 level cricket, and were playing for the colleges at the Intermediate level.