Waqar vs. Wasim--whose the greatest bowler??

Here are some interesting statistics comparing the two great Ws:

(btw in ODIs Wasim and Waqar top the all time list for no of wkts being 1st and 2nd by a long long way…)

If we look at all of the important figures for fast bowlers–primarily the strike rate and the average then we see that in both of these Waqar is ahead of Wasim in both forms of the game. He also has a higher wkts per match ratio too.

This is the comparison for both types of games combined from wisden:

BTW the last table is in order and shows the top 5 of all time–Waq and Was are streets ahead of the rest. Though Was has more overall wickets
Waq has better figures in every other dept!

Both :)

Both of em are the best ever.

Wasim or Waqar-this is a question that should not be an hard to answer as ppl make out. The stats tell only half the picture and leave a major half out. That Waqar has a better S/R and Ave does not make him a better bowler-and as much as I love Waqar Younis-he really was like a shooting star-brilliant for a relatively short time span. Akram has been brilliant for the best part of 2 decades, and certainly from his arrival on the test scene in 1984/5 V NZL to about 1996/7 he was amongst the greatest consistant exponents of quality pace bowling of alltime.

If you look at Waqar's stats post his 1994/5 injury-they will read distinctly like those of an ave (world class) mortal. His record is still kept sky high by his awesome start-until 1994 his S/R was 36 and his ave 18! That can be clarified by reading "Letting Rip-the fast bowling threat from Lillee to Waqar".

Wasim's mastery of all things bowling have allowed him to keep consistancy in his game all the way through, he has not scaled the dizzy heights Waqar did, but remained at a constant level of success throughout. Waqar held such dominance for 4/5 of his 14 odd years that he is still eating of the success he had then. A break down of his stasts will confirm that Waqar had a greater peak-the best ever-but overall throught there respective careers Wasim has been (1) more consistant and (2) a better and more complete bowler.

Waqar's raliance on his pace was shown by his staggering fall in success post 95, and coupled with his limited new ball variations he cant possibly be put against Wasim. Waqar (with the new ball) can only really move it away-his inswing is still largely an old ball issue-Wasim is the master of all swing and seam variations-not to mention he can mix up his pace, length and line far better then Younis.

A great pace merchant or the ultimate bowling magician is the choice your faced with-Akram by a mile.

WASIM NO Doubt waqar used to be when he was fast but not now

I apologise to Younis for making it sound like he just fell off-his stats post 95 are not what they were before that, but there still quite awesome-ranging in ave from 20.72 (98) to 58.25 (99) across a years tests.

Waqar's ave from 95-

wkts: 165
runs: 4518
Tests: 47

Thus an ave of 27.38 in tests since his injury-compared to about 18 before hand-still decent, but a massive drop. Thats why Akram is better-the level consistancy.

WASIM all the way !!!!
Because of many reason...Ome of them being that
WAQAR never did good against the worlds Best batting side..i.e INDIA.

WAQAR against India in TEST

Match wicket best bowling Average
4 8 4/80 48.75

First Imran then Wasim both unbelievable and great. With Great fighting spirit which normally pakistanis lack of.

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worlds Best batting side..i.e INDIA.

Hahaha!! (aap mazzaq Bohat achha kartey hain)

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worlds Best batting side..i.e INDIA.

Hahaha!! (aap mazzaq Bohat achha kartey hain)
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aur wo mazzaq bhi latifa suna kay kartay hain :)

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Kyon Bhai - Jab Pakistan ki bowling world me best ho sakti hai to Fir India ki batting kyon nahin ??

Waise Yahan ek aur option hona chaiye tha - Shahid Afridi :hehe:

no doubt both are excelent,but if u have to choose one then my fav. is
WASEEM AKRAM

My vote goes to WASIM AKRAM but not becasue of AQ's logic of waqar's performance against INDIA but just because WASIM has SOMETHING jo kisee aur meen nahee :)

AQ : with your logic here is world's best batting line up again Pakistan



SACHIN
Against All 99  8351    217 57.99
Against PAK 7   395     136     32.91

GANGULY
Against All 61      3971    173     43.16
Against PAK 3       172     62*     34.40

DRAVID
Against All 63      5118    200*    52.76
Against PAK 3       162     53      27.00

LAXMAN
Against All 38      2349    281     41.21
Against PAK 3       138     67      23.00


Note 2 Ehsan : is this better ?? :)

Baywaqoof on a role! :k: :k:
World’s best batting side my a$$. :hehe:

I turly feel sorry for Waqar, he would have been the greatest if it wasn’t for 3 different surgerieshe had in in 93.

But the time before the World Cup when Waqar was still young on the seen, he was the best at that time, and his performance at that time was better than Wasim had been ever.
But talking about level of consistency and being at the level of greatness for a long period of time than my pick would be Wasim.

I can truly say that there is no bowler ever can come close to the greatness of Wasim and Waqar.

Out of the current bowlers I don’t see anyone breaking Wasim’s one day record, except for maybe Shoaib Akhtar but you can’t guarentee his fitness.