Are you sure … who is assuring who 
He said Richard Holbrooke has guaranteed that Taliban will be barred from entering Balochistan province even after surge of US troops in Afghanistan assuring that US is not planning extend drone strike to Balochistan
Holbrooke assures Taliban won’t step into Balochistan: PM Gilani - GEO.tv
You can continue to kid yourself, but no one else is buying it - the only reason you are fighting homegrown terrorists is because your own backside is on fire 
And even thats happening too little & too late.
Who cares what you remember ? 
Today Mumbai is back at its vibrant & prosperous best. But Pakistan is facing a terror strike daily. Looks like your strategy of using terror as a political & diplomatic tool is backfiring big time.
Invaded Kargil … history lesson …
Over 4,000 Pakistanis killed during Kargil conflict: Nawaz Sharif
Sharif also admitted that Pakistan was defeated in Kargil, but said he covered it up by undertaking a visit to the US, after which Islamabad announced a withdrawal. Had he accepted defeat then, it would have demoralised the Army and India would have got an “opportunity” to invade Pakistan, Sharif said in a message read out at a joint Opposition rally organised by the 15-party Alliance for Restoration of Democracy (ARD) at Lahore on Thursday
:rotfl: Pretty clear who owns/controls Pakistan…
Many mistakes were made during the war on terror. America, UK, Europe, they all prosecuted innocent people. Its the tragedy of the war. Many have been released, many have not.
But thanks to our free and independant judiciary, such mistakes will not be made again. This time, Justice has been done. There was no evidence to hold Hafiz and so he was released.
You as an Indian should appreciate when justice is done.
Perhaps next time Pakistan and India can work more closely together so that proper evidence is gathered against the man.
But unfortunately the Indians choose ego and pride over cooperation, and now this is what you get. 
Well obviously Nawaz Sharif has a reason to say that… You obviously dont understand Pakistani politics.
But you missed the point entirely… Somehow you think India is so important that we would never cross the mightiy Bhindians:)
But I guess we forgot what a powerful country you think you are when we invaded Kargil and started the proxy war in Kashmir (all for the sake of Kashmiri independance from Indian occupation.).
FYI ... Pakistan was paid "millions" of dollars for handing over "innocent" people along with some terrorists ..... history for you !!!!! ...
You know this takrar from Indians is very much like those village idiots laughing at the father and son story.
First an Indian claims we didn't catch the global terrorists.
When he got a strong rebuttal,
a second Indian pops up and says
Pakistan did it for money.
This proves Indian nationalists will always be like those village bhaands always throwing jugatain no matter what the situation.
Perhaps these Indians do not have any fun left in the Kompooter Kooli jobs, so throwing little stones on pakistan is their only entertainment. Pathetic!
You as an Indian should appreciate when justice is done. Perhaps next time Pakistan and India can work more closely together so that proper evidence is gathered against the man.
But unfortunately the Indians choose ego and pride over cooperation, and now this is what you get. :)
A decent post ... so will respond decently ....
Hafeez sahab was arrested on what charge ...... as the report are coming out from Pakistan, he was arrested on the premise that he is the head of JuD and since the organisation is banned by UN he was arrested.
This line is wrong .... UN resolutions does not require the arrest of heaods of such organisations, i can always like you up with what the resoluaitons say and what needs to be done.
So the very act under which he was arrested was wrong .... thus judiciary did the thing it was supposed to do and released him. Now it is upto Pakistani government how they want to handle it ....
Ufff… Genius, he is talking about Taliban crossing from Afghanistan in Balochistan!
God, you Indians are so slow its amazing.!
A decent post ... so will respond decently ....
Hafeez sahab was arrested on what charge ...... as the report are coming out from Pakistan, he was arrested on the premise that he is the head of JuD and since the organisation is banned by UN he was arrested.
This line is wrong .... UN resolutions does not require the arrest of heaods of such organisations, i can always like you up with what the resoluaitons say and what needs to be done.
So the very act under which he was arrested was wrong .... thus judiciary did the thing it was supposed to do and released him. Now it is upto Pakistani government how they want to handle it ....
NAH yaar, it wasnt meant to be decent! This was typo, I meant to add some insults but forgot to..
Anyways, why do you have you chudi's in a bunch!?!?!
I personally hope the dont do anything, and most likely nothing will happen considering how slowly the govt moves along, just spite the Indians some more.
But thank god the govt in Pakistan is more responsible then I am:)
You know this takrar from Indians is very much like those village idiots laughing at the father and son story.
First an Indian claims we didn't catch the global terrorists.
When he got a strong rebuttal,
a second Indian pops up and says
Pakistan did it for money.
This proves Indian nationalists will always be like those village bhaands always throwing jugatain no matter what the situation.
Perhaps these Indians do not have any fun left in the Kompooter Kooli jobs, so throwing little stones on pakistan is their only entertainment. Pathetic!
Let me tie the thread ..... Pakistan does not catch global terrorists .... unless it is "pressurised" to do so or it is "paid" to do so .......
Kasab was not Pakistani ....... after US read the riot act ..... Rehman Malik found even the engine number of the rubber raft used by him :D
Khalis shiekh mohamad was in Pakistan for long time ..... when the price was right .... he was handed over to the americans .....
You see it is better to be kompooter kooli then being just a kooli ...... but then it depends if you like a "white" collar job or a "blue" collar one !!!!!
Let me tie the thread
...... !!!!!
choro yaar. tum nay to illogic ki intiha he ker di. Itna ghussa????
So if the USA's commentator says:
Will you be mad at the USA or the commentator then?
FYI. There was "head money" on terrorists. So what if Pakistan got money. Is that a crime?
Oh wait! It is a crime from an Indian jugat baaz POV that even a single $ comes to Pakistan.
Jealousy needs no bounds for an Indian.
Good very good.
Shabaash.
choro yaar. tum nay to illogic ki intiha he ker di. Itna ghussa????
So if the USA's commentator says:
Will you be mad at the USA or the commentator then?
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There is a difference between a bussiness enterprise and a government !!!!!
Indian government neither runs call centers nor does US government pay these call centers ..... understand the difference ...... in any case in Pakistan, the army is running like a private enterprise so you seem to be ok with this kind of working. Perhaps that is why they call Pakistan army the only army with a country !!!!!
There is a difference between a bussiness enterprise and a government !!!!!
Indian government neither runs call centers nor does US government pay these call centers ..... understand the difference ...... in any case in Pakistan, the army is running like a private enterprise so you seem to be ok with this kind of working. Perhaps that is why they call Pakistan army the only army with a country !!!!!
Lol... This is ridiculous. Pakistan is paid for the expense it incurs due to this war on terror. Are you going to tell us that war is cheap? Whether you like it or not, it costs money.
choro yaar. tum nay to illogic ki intiha he ker di. Itna ghussa????
So if the USA's commentator says:
Will you be mad at the USA or the commentator then?
FYI. There was "head money" on terrorists. So what if Pakistan got money. Is that a crime?
Oh wait! It is a crime from an Indian jugat baaz POV that even a single $ comes to Pakistan.
Jealousy needs no bounds for an Indian.
Good very good.
Shabaash.
lol... Most of these supposed terrorists were never Pakistans enemies to begin with. Technicslly we are fighting anther nations war. I dont see anything wrong with getting compensation.
It’s a pity that Abdul Aziz and Hafiz Saeed were released by the courts. We should not take it as a failure of judiciary but the fact that agencies are not serious in taking the legal course and do not present but rather conceal the evidence gathered by them to convict these criminals. Agencies have to get serious about this problem and stop safeguarding these criminals by not presenting evidence against them in a court of law. Still today these ghundas are preaching hatred and are intellectual mentors of nut case jihadis.
These agencies must confess their past sins of nurturing these criminals as a state policy instead of covering up their own flawed defence and strategic thinking..covering up the evidence and blaming the judiciary is not going to help!!!
Transitional justice
Legal eye
Saturday, June 06, 2009
Babar Sattar
The writer is a lawyer based in Islamabad.
In 2007 we witnessed the Lal Masjid imbroglio: gun-trotting vigilantes occupying a children library, abducting foreigners and shutting down music shops in Islamabad. When confronted by the state – in an ill-conceived and delayed operation – the military action claimed many lives, including those of commandos carrying out the operation. Yet, there has not been a single conviction for the crimes carried out by the Lal Masjid brigade and Abdul Aziz was recently released by the apex court to receive a hero’s welcome back at Lal Masjid. Earlier this week Lahore High Court ordered the release of Hafiz Saeed – the head of Jamaatud Dawa widely suspected of having inspired or abetted the Bombay terror attacks last year that brought Pakistan and India to the brink of war. When a justice system fails to put miscreants and offenders in correction facilities, it encourages crime and criminals by diluting the deterring effect of law on the one hand, and on the other encourages law-enforcement agencies to indulge in extra-judicial killings as the only effective way of putting criminals away. Are Pakistan’s legislation, court system and criminal law jurisprudence fundamentally incapable of holding accountable perpetrators of terror and their intellectual mentors preaching an ideology of hate, violence and intolerance?
That Abdul Aziz and Hafiz Saeed are innocent until proven guilty is a fundamental tenant of our law and justice system. But why is it that despite a tremendous rise in terrorist activity and increase in the number of arrests made in relation thereto, no one ever gets convicted?** Are intelligence and law-enforcement agencies not able to gather information and evidence in a manner that can be used in a court of law? Are they unwilling to share information with prosecutors and the courts that they deem sensitive from a national security perspective? Are they incapable of confronting all facets of the terror infrastructure still alive and well in Pakistan? Or are they deliberately equivocal about the utility of non-state actors in line with our three-decade old flawed defence and strategic thinking?** And this is where the issue of truth-telling by the state becomes an essential plank in transitional justice. Hillary Clinton admitted before a senate committee that the US had helped nurture, finance and arm the Taliban and other mujahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and had later forgotten about the stingers floating across Pakistan. It was thus part responsible for the mess in the region. Such admission is a crucial first step in amending mistakes of the past.
If Pakistan wishes to dismantle the jihadi infrastructure that continues to fuel insurgency in the tribal areas and terror across the country, the state must admit its original sin. We cannot confront or isolate militancy in Swat, while the militant ideology prospers in Waziristan, Southern Punjab and Muridke.** A comprehensive approach to fighting terror and extremism in Pakistan can only be built on the admission that a flawed approach to national security and defence strategy led to the inception of a jihadi project, where the state patronized militant groups, trained them in guerrilla warfare, fed them on an obscurantist brand of religion and armed them with modern weapons funded by foreign money. Such acknowledgement will enable the state to confront the crimes of today, without simultaneously trying to cover up those of yesterday that can be traced back to its own doorstep. It will allow agencies to divulge information before our courts that will lead to convictions of terrorists and their patrons.** And it will help today’s military and political leaders to explain how we wound up in a situation where a population of almost three million people had to be evacuated to confront a few thousand militants and the steps that we will take now to never let this happen again.
preaching an ideology of hate, violence and intolerance?
It is possible that in India people are detained for ever on some suspicion and/or lack of evidence, but in Pakistan, things are changing, we do not lock up some to make someone happy, i raised it several times, raising it again, y haven’t your so called brilliant agencies have given any prove to the Pakistani govt against Hafiz Saeed.. and the proves given are in Marathi and Hindi.. is this a joke of Indian Officials…
You Indians may be naive and may see it as mere mistake, but people in Pakistan got some brains and they know that India is not serious about it… anyway, what indian courts have done with the Col. Prohat Case??? any updates..
I didn’t accepted much from a you.. but if u r missed something, Pakistan did offer to investigate the issue, but ur smart indian govt thought they can do it by them selves and now they have nothing in hand but these baseless allegation..
u deserve to be ruled by these leaders who are exploiting you today..and would carry on in the name of hate..
I can feel the jealousy you indians are going through, why don’t u just MYOB… or may be ur business is so disgusting that you don’t even want to look at it…
, i raised it several times, raising it again, y haven't your so called brilliant agencies have given any prove to the Pakistani govt against Hafiz Saeed.. and the proves given are in Marathi and Hindi.. is this a joke of Indian Officials...
All you have done is hit the repeat button without reading what the Attorney general of Pakistan has to say ....... no evidence is required from India to prosecute Hafeez Saeed ..... period .......
Re: Wanted: better laws
Before Pakistan can come up with better laws, they have to come up with better in-laws.