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^ It also produced the likes of shiva ji which hindus adore as he invited an afghan ruler of a place in india and while greeting him, stabbed him in the back.. 
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It's quite rich given the tradition of blowing innocent children filled bus is the norm these days in name of freedom movement............. did people strangle their kids after producing likes of aurangjeb and gori they didn't so what was the point again
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BTW plebiscite of NWFP got in favour of pak by just 1% had congress suspended the land reform movement for sometime nwfp have vey well been part of india.. that land -reform piSSed khan kandlords of nwfp
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The narrow margin was in 1946, because the NWFP was a pro-Congress province at the time. However, when a poll was held according to the 3rd June 1947 Plan, communal violence in India had exploded into great bloodshed and the Pakhtuns were finally able to see through Congress’s pretences and see the hatred many Hindus at the time held for Muslims.
The referendum in summer 1947 led to a clear pro-Pakistan vote of 99%. Pakhtun voters, seeing the communal violence in India, came round overwhelmingly to two-nation theory.
Here’s a link from an Indian source. In fact, it’s from an Indian source making an anti-Pakistan diatribe.
http://vsubhash.blogspot.com/2004_12_01_vsubhash_archive.html
Instead, a plebiscite deciding whether the NWFP should become a part of India or a part of Pakistan was allowed to be conducted in 1947. Backed by British officials, the Muslim League launched a campaign by sending its workers to the villages and denouncing the Congress boycott of Pakistan as un-Islamic and exhorting everyone to vote for Pakistan as it was their religious duty. The rest of India had by then become embroiled in Hindu-Muslim riots and Muslim refugees brought with them horrific tales of the bloodbath. In the end, the plebiscite was conducted and 99% of the votes were for Pakistan.
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Zakk, Thanks for sharing a nice essay on Wali Khan murhoom. May Allah bless his soul and award him a place in the heaven. May Allah give strength to bear this loss, to Mrs. Khan and the rest of the family.
Wali khan is such an icon in his own way that you can’t separate his politics from his personality. However as a person, he was a great Pushtoon truly carrying on the golden traditions of his area.
As a politician, he was a failure because of many reasons. The biggest of them was that he was the son of great Bacha Khan. He could never grow out from underneath the giant stature of Sr. Khan.
On economic front, the problem was that the Surkh Posh (the Reds) movement of Ghaffar Khan was a mismatch for his region. The Reds carried Kommie connotation, but you could never sell communism to an ordinary hardworking and fiercely independent Pushtoon.
Wali Khan could never stand up and renounce the “Red-ism” of his father and move towards free-market economic agenda. That is why he failed to muster support of the power centers in Lahore and Karachi.
Zulfi Bhutto was more shrewd (and hence Bey-Asool) compared to Wali Khan. The deception of “Roti-Kapra-Makaan” (bread, clothing, housing) slogan mixed with Islamo-fascism won Bhutto the election.
Wali khan however continued standing on the sidelines of Pak politics. Then he mixed his confused views on economy with even stupider views on history and pretty much buried his political career. I mean what the heck was he doing by making statements such as “Brits made Pakistan” after his supposed “research” in India Office Library. Everyone knows Brits made both Pakistan and Bharat. Heck the Congress Party of Bharat was a love child of Sir Allan Octavian Hume, who brought about its first meeting in Bombay, with the approval of Lord Dufferin, the then-Viceroy.
These shenanigans earned Wali Khan jeers of the masses, and pushed this Leftie, but gentle Pushtoon into his political oblivion.
These are my views to show why one of my favorite leader never became successful in Pak politics. However not a single person can accuse him of lacking humane values the epitome of Pushtoon traditions.
May Allah bless his soul. Amin!!
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Communal violence started with the direct action call of Jinnah saheb from Noakhali a muslim majority area so how u can accuse congress for this is beyond me.............
anyway whoever started that riot that must have been also a good reason ...
In fact exactly for thsi reason pakistan kept dilly-dallying and never took its army out fo POK in initial dayswhich was a pre-condition of plebiscite .... those army jawans and tribal had run riot in kashmir by killing raping etc etc and people were really really pi$$ed.... shekh abdullah the local leader was so anti-pakistan..........
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dude whihc history have u read NWFP plebiscite was decided by 1% vote difference
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Oh Yara! stick to your namesake game of cricket. History is not your forte.
What boggles my mind these Bharatis watch the movie Gandhi and suddenly become uber-historians of Bharat-Matha?
Oh Baboo! Direct action call was issued in 1946 after Gandhi and co. shot down the last ditch hope of agreement in Shimla. Even DA call that all Bharatis love to bring up, resulted in riots in one city now called Kolkatta. Some local Bengali hooligans must have done bad stuff, otherwise every major Muslim area carried on peacefully.
Even in Kolkatta Muslim Bengalis got the thrashing by majority Hindu Bengalis. That resulted in two secondary events. One in Bihar and the other in Noakhali. Bharatis would never mention Bihar where thousands of Bihari-Muslims were murdered by Congress CM. Only Noakhali incident in mentioned cause few hundred Bengali-Hindus died there.
Oh Baboo, communal violence was part and parcel of Bharat Matha long before DA call by Jinnah. Ever heard of Gurh Mukteswar riots? Where UP-Hindus killed thousands of their Muslim brethren.
If blaming Jinnah for one DA call is not the nefarious purpose of these RS$hites, then why not mention 1947 where non-Muslims called to arm first under the very nose of Patel?
Off course the selective reading of history with events juxtaposed to blacken Jinnah’s face is the sole purpose of Bharati nationalists. No matter how hard you try to provide the facts, they will continue to blame communal violence on the party who was the weakest of all i.e. Muslims.
Just like now they burn Babri and then kill thousands of Muslims. One train compartment gets wrecked, and 2000+ Muslims get raped, and burned with 30,000+ in concentration camps. Damn Bharatis baboos who have been committing Muslim holocaust for ages.
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Dude things started in Noakhali and I don't care what negotiatiosn failed but the call of armed struggle in name of direct action plan was given by muslim league not congress...... and yes once DA sponsored riots started in Noakhali things started everywhere...................peaceful and muslim well :-)
In india even today some Jerry falliwal says sthg against islam in usa indian muslism kill hindus in poona.. never understood how this could be justified i mean if u must, go kill falliwal in usa for god's sake..let us not talk about peaceful believers.....at best it's misnomer.........
First riot in history of India once again was Mopla riots and what was the reason Mustafa kamaal refused to led islamic khilafat and again one might ask what was the fault of those mopla hindus in kerala for this.......
btw wha did u expect after DA plan sponsoerd violence and please don;t go in who kileld how many even a cursory glance of mughal emeperors darbari writers will make u cringe........
fact remains until Jinnah saheb gave that DA call there was no large scale violence
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read it like this one hindu refuses to pay tea vednor whole compartment full of pilgrims gets burned and if u expected nothign will happen in wake of this well then I am afraid u outstretched hindus tolerance
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OK so now we know a Bihari named Ganguly is trying to rewrite new “Hi$hitory”. Oh Baboo Raam, Aug 16 is DA call day and it was a “hartal” and not an armed struggle. Only Kolkatta saw riots as a direct result of DA. While Muslim dominated cities in Punjab, Sindh, Frontier and Balochistan remained calm.
Rewriting bihari hi$hitory almost means that now a hartal or a strike call (that is still common in the subcontinent) will be known as armed struggle. Good luck oh Bihari.
p.s. Noakhali and Bihari killings happened after Kolkatta in real history while Noakhali happened right at Aug 16 as per Bihari Hi$hitry.
Mopla riots of 1926 were the result of Gandhi the Amir’s Khilafat movement. Jinnah was totally against that stuff so he left Congress and never went back. Kapeesh?
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Bandhu call of hartaal by a staunch non-violence preaching leader like Gandhi used to veer into violent protests so don't be delusional that just because jinnah saheb said it's hartaal and so muslim population restricted themselves to that only...............common sense says any kind of mass mobilization like this has all the ingredeints to turn violent and more so if it's based on religious call..........Kolkata riot where muslim called for kolata bandh and started forcing hindu vendors to shut shops in Kolkata did precede and as I mentioned why sud a hindu show solidarity against partition supporter.. this has provocation written all over it I mean why wud u choose a Hindu majority city to show ur might for pakistan solidarity and force hindus to close their shops......
Don't just rote-read use ur brain too while reading.....
And please let us not even go into history writing I have had misfortune of reading justification for numerous attack of gori gazni on India and it was sthg to the effect that since Hindu ruler Prithvi raj Chauhan used to conspire against them hence he attacked....... Now any logical person would ask why would a conspirator let somoene go after defeating him in the battlefield which Chuahan did so many times.......Another question one might ask why would a conspirator never attack just wait to be attacked by the ruler he presumably was conspirign against.......... these kind of justification hardly impresses anyone with even two digit IQ but then again I might be guilty of under-estimating gullibiity of pakistani people
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Mopla riots of 1926 were the result of Gandhi the Amir's Khilafat movement. Jinnah was totally against that stuff so he left Congress and never went back. Kapeesh?
I can bet my bottom cent had Gandhi not supported muslim masses call of khilafat even that wud have been in the list fo why pakistan was needed:-)
never midn Gandhi didn't say muslim masses to kill Mopla hindus did he, if at allhe was showing solidarity with their cause I don't see any reason why wud muslims repay ganguly in Mopla rights coin after the solidarity he showed...
Mother of all riots remains Mopla and gandhiji was not off target when he remarked after this that " Muslims are bullies and Hindus are cowards" every once in a while cowardice disappears but overall they remain coward
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Ganguly, do you have anything better to do then simply pic fights with people? What does this conversation have anything to do with you?
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Do you have any actual evidence to back up your idiocy?
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As a politician, he was a failure because of many reasons. The biggest of them was that he was the son of great Bacha Khan. He could never grow out from underneath the giant stature of Sr. Khan.
On economic front, the problem was that the Surkh Posh (the Reds) movement of Ghaffar Khan was a mismatch for his region. *The Reds carried Kommie connotation, but you could never sell communism to an ordinary hardworking and fiercely independent Pushtoon. *
This is absolutely wrong and again a dis-information.
Red Shirts didn't carry communistic connatations. Bacha Khan himself was a deeply religious person and so was Khudayi Khidmatgar Movement deeply immersed in the tradition of the society where it arose. Even the very name "Khudayi Khidmatgars" testifies the fact that the movement didn't have communistic inclinations.
Red Shirt was the name given to it by British colonialist to tarnish its image in masses.
However, the movement did talk about social justice. And most of its workers and followershad been drawn from deprived and marginalized classes as recorded by the British Gazetteer of 1931 about the frontier. According to it:
"Ghaffar Khan finally conceived the idea of forming a great body of rural volunteers uniformed and organized by "tappas" and villages nominally in the interest of social reforms but in reality to overthrow not only the government but also the existing social order. The directors of the movement in each tappa and sub-ordinate villages were Pashtoons and were known as local "jirag" all subordinated in varying degrees to the Central "jirga" at Utmanzai (Charssadda). As the executives forced to carry out their orders, they enrolled villagers many of whom were the menial classes....".
Although, this is a colonialist view of Khudayi Khidmatgar Movement, there are some clues in the above description that give an indication of the true nature of this movement. You should note the words "to overthrow.....the existing social order".
Now what was this social order?
Simply, the British coloniasts had created a class of big land-lords, nawabs, khan bahadurs, title-holders, and a servant cadre and had given them power and resources to rule , oppress, and control the locals. This way British had disturbed the balance (of power) in Pashtun society. Menial classes were especially bearing the excesses of this manipulation of Pashtun Society.
Bacha Khan organized people against this and in favor of reforms.
British and their local cronies, the land lords, Khan Bahadars, and nawabs, who later became leaders of Muslim League were scared of this. They considered KKM a rebellion against the existing social order and tried to stigmatize it through the "Red Shirt" propaganda.
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The Reds carried Kommie connotation*, but you could never sell communism to an ordinary hardworking and fiercely independent Pushtoon.*
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Khudayi Khidmatgar Movement was a popular movement.
Two times, it, in alliance with Congress, won elections. Poor and common people defeated British-backed nawabs and landlords. Not only this, common people, in large numbers, gave sacrifices for it. Pakistani authorities were more brutal to oppress it than their coloniast masters and predecessors. At one instance alone, 19 people died in jails due to torture by Pakistani authorities.
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Wali Khan could never stand up and renounce the "Red-ism" of his father and move towards free-market economic agenda. That is why he failed to muster support of the power centers in Lahore and Karachi.
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The problem was that, it was a war between West and Russia.
An in the broad strategic plan of Western colonialists, democratic, equitable, and representative dispensations and attitudes didn't count. They already had earmarked Pashtun Land as the battle ground between communism and capitalism.
For Wali Khan and other pro-democratic politicians, the foes were too formidable; these foes were global powers as well as their regional stooges and local "cronies ".
As for power centers of Lahore and Karachi, no person with a bit of conscience and principled-stand could bow to them. The power of these power centers was, and is, very fragile and artificial mostly granted by pre and post-partition international political and military order. Now that Cold War is over, these power centers are coming under strain and sometimes are humuliated.
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Wali khan however continued standing on the sidelines of Pak politics. Then he mixed his confused views on economy with even stupider views on history and pretty much buried his political career. I mean what the heck was he doing by making statements such as "Brits made Pakistan" after his supposed "research" in India Office Library. .
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His research was never refuted.
Reliable sources say, Pakistani authorities approached the officials of the Indian Office Library protesting why was Wali Khan given the information for that research.
Moreover, it is not only Wali Khan having said that. Read "Freedom at Midnight" in which Churchil advises Lord Mountbaton to keep "a bit of India".
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Everyone knows Brits made both Pakistan and Bharat. Heck the Congress Party of Bharat was a love child of Sir Allan Octavian Hume, who brought about its first meeting in Bombay, with the approval of Lord Dufferin, the then-Viceroy
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It is not so simple Sir. It is an insult to the millions of people that gave sacrifice for freedom. People were imprisoned, tortured, killed, exiled, and humuliated. If calculated in total, the rigours of imprisonment that genuine freedom fighters were subjected to would run in hundreds of years setting aside other ordeals.
On the contrary, no leader of Muslim league ever suffered one second of pain or imprisonment for demanding freedom from the most formidable global power of its time i.e. British Empire. On the contrary, they were awarded titles and estates.
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Dino, you truly have the "aqal" of a dinosaur as well!
ANP (bacha khan its father) was a marxist leftist socialist party along with many balochi sardars. Now they don't seem that way could be due to the fact that they moved to the center and support has ended from Afghanistan / USSR !
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Blitzy..contrary to what people assume..most leftists did not get along with Ghaffar Khan..the KK was a movement “tehrik” and not a party. Calling Ghaffar Khan a communist is like Muhammad Ali Jinnah a mullah..large scale movements like the KK and Pakistan Movement ..involve a cross section of society and not conservative/liberal or socialist/communist politics solely.
That the NAP was heavily influenced by communist/socialist politics goes without saying, it was a child of it’s time in the end..as was the PPP which actually implemented socialist policies like Nationalisation, whether Wali Khan was a communist..I am afraid thats not true..that is again one of those labels he was tagged with, in the NAP’s brief stint in power in the 1970’s it made business men like Ghulam Faruqe as ministers ofr finance and investment..similarly so in Baluchistan. While people Baloch like Khair Baksh Marri, Bizenjo and to a lesser extent Mengal were definitely more left wing..Wali Khan and his party on it’s own were not neccessarily so..
On another note..this special section of the NEWS has several excellent articles on Wali Khan..
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You seem to have access to a lot of reliable sources. I am beginning to like your version of history. So he was not a commie? I see. The only Bacha Khan follower I have met was a proud socialist. Must have been a coincidence? And did Bacha Khan (or any of his followers) write some book that encapsultes his political message?
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He was more a social reformer than politician.
There is one auto-biography, "Zama Jwand aow jado-jahad" i.e. "My Life and Struggle", by him. There are a number of books by other authors.
Whatever, his political views and achievements should be understood in the broader political context of great-powers struggle and the social context of Pashtun Society itself. The problem is, people try to understand him through the political context of the Subcontinent.
As for his communistic associations, in July 1931, he addressed a meeting organized by Pashtun women of village Bhaizai, saying:
"Whenever I went to India and saw the national awakening and patriotism of the Hindu and Parsi women, I used to say to myself, "would such a time come when our Pashtun women would also awake?".
Thanks God I see my desire fulfilled. In the Holy Quran, you have an equal share with men. You are today oppressed because we men today have ignored the commands of God and the Prophet. Today, we are the followers of customs and we oppress you. But thank God, we have realized that our gain and loss, progress and downfall are common."
He was a better practicing Muslim than many leaders of Muslim League (who consumed liquer and ate pork). He never took liquer or ate pork.
The anthem of Khudai Khidmatgars (KKs) was:
"We are the army of God...... By death or wealth unmoved
We march, our leader and we,....... Ready to die
In the name of God we march .......And in his name, we die
We serve in the name of God ........God's servant are we
God is our King .......Great is he
We serve our lord ......Slaves are we
Our country's a cause.. .....We serve with our breath,
For such an end,........ Glorious is death.
We serve and we love....... Our people and our cause,
Freedom is our aim....... And our lives are its price,
We love our country..... And respect our country
Zealously we protect it...... For the glory of the Lord,
By canon or gun undismayed..... Soldiers and horsemen
None can come between,....... Our work and our duty."
Anoth poem was:
"If I a slave lie burried in a grave under a resplendent tombestone,
Respect it not,
When I die and not lie bathed in martyres blood,
None should pollute his tongue offering prayers for me,
Oh mother, with what face would you wail for me,
If I am not torn to pieces by British guns?
Either I turn this wretched land of mine into a Garden of Eden
**Or I wiped out the lands and homes of Pashtuns"