Ive only ever heard bad things about them and how they are dangerous and do a disservice to Islam.
What I want to hear is the other side from someone who knows.
What are these guys all about and why are we always told to be careful?
Wahabbist belief aims to purge all innovations and Bida'as from Islam to keep it as pure as possible, and in reality, it is what every Muslim should strive to do...
Wahabbism is a word which has been made to look bad by the western media so that the mod-Muslim lapdogs have something to bark at and make a scapegoat out of...
But this thread will soon be closed like all others that tend to discuss Wahabbism or Salafism because GupShup and its admins are based in the US...No one likes a bad rap...
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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
Wahabbist belief aims to purge all innovations and Bida'as from Islam to keep it as pure as possible, and in reality, it is what every Muslim should strive to do...
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Does this also include Tarawih as its an Excelent Bidah in the eyes of 2nd Caliph according to Hadith Books??
just asking!
why is taraweeh a bida? The prophet (PBUH) prayed taraweeh - how is it an innovation?
I duno, ask Umer who said that.
perhaps you also need to check this
Assalam Aleekum
They just use this word Salafi to differentiate from the innovators.
If you look at their teachings, you will notice they base It strictly
on Sunnah.
And some people have misconceptions that they are followers of
Imam e Dawah Sheikh Abdul Wahab. But they are not. He is just
one of their scholars.
take care
The noble and sublime Umer :razi: in his wisdom had started a Sunnah which you are under no obligation to follow…Umer :razi: died 1,400 years ago…Umer :razi: is regarded as a most highly respected figure…In light of all this your mockery of this noble companion of the Holy Prophet :saw: by saying ‘Ask Umer’ is in bad taste…
There is a Japanese saying that in order to learn something, one must first learn humilty…Soft earth absorbs water much more readily than a rock and don’t mock others’ objects of affection…
Anybody who follows or tries to follow true Islam will be labeled
Wahabi.
take care
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Just to add, …The Prophet :saw: said:
“alaikum bi sunnati wa sunna talKhulafa ir ashideen.”
Firstly taraveeh was performed by Prophet :saw: himslef and Umer 
organized it into a jamaat. So we have to follow the Sunnah of Prophet :saw: and Khulafa rashideen ( Abu Bakr, Umar Uthman, Ali anhum)
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*Originally posted by rehman1: *
Anybody who follows or tries to follow true Islam will be labeled
Wahabi.
take care
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If stating "Shaitaan has more knowledge than the Holy Prophet of Islam" is true islam in your eyes? then may Allah (swt) keep the whole muslim ummah away from such "TRUE WAHABI ISLAM"
The funny thing about Shiaism is the fact that both Sunnis and Shias believe in the same Quran…The same Quran tells us that Shaitaan is the worst and foremost enemy of man…Yet, Shias tend to hate those Sahaba who were with the Holy Prophet :saw: more than they hate the Shaitaan…If the Shias hated the Shaitaan more than they hated human beings who died 1,400 years ago, they would be true Muslims…
But no…Cursing and abusing some Sahaba who died 1,400 years ago or mourning and weeping some Shuhada who died 1,400 years ago is a strange conundrum of beliefs…
Islam is believing and following the Commands of Allah :swt: and the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (saw)…Not hating and cursing or mourning and weeping over those who died centuries ago…That is neither commanded in the Quran nor the Sunnah, hence it falls outside of Islam, yet seems to be the basic tenet of Shiaism…
Wahabism decries such practices that sow the seeds of discontent by insults and abuses which also seem to be a tenet of Shiaism…
LMAO!!!
What this all have to do with my post you quoted. Seems you dont have any thing to clerify your belief which I posted above.
And just for your information the bold sentence I posted above was taken from following sunni website about wahabis. 
The Obligation of Following the Salaf (the Sahaabah)
004.115
YUSUFALI: If anyone contends with the Messenger even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell,- what an evil refuge!
PICKTHAL: And whoso opposeth the messenger after the guidance (of Allah) hath been manifested unto him, and followeth other than the believer's way, We appoint for him that unto which he himself hath turned, and expose him unto hell - a hapless journey's end!
And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination.
brothers have already said the brief introduction of salafi/wahabi methodology, and i dont think i can add any thing usefull, but basically the grave worshippers and the ahlul biddah hate the ahlul sunnah the most and you will find the so called "sunni" barelvis to be the most fearsome enemies of ahlul sunnah because true muslims recognize the grave errors in their methodology and point it out.
brief description from a scholar with knowledge of the true meaning of salafia. inshalalh it will help
I know you have already explained the fact that the way to find the real jammah is one which follows hadith and sunna, as these poeple cannot go astray.
i was with eh-le hadith (saudi salafis) until lately i have received so much info from hanafi’s and also shaikh faisal too. they criticise the salafs so much and off cousre with hadith, which i cant really reject. so i put these arguments forward to the salaf and they quoted hadith too and they were equally persuasive, so i cant really reject them too.
i cant leave the salafs because they are the only sound jammah in my little (unnoticed town) where no other organisations are present. apart from the grave? peer worshippers.
and if i do follow them would that constitute me blind following the salafs cos as the hanafi say we must follow only one imam?
to sum up all what is the best solution? why do majority of these groups,sects whatever always quote hadith and then say it has saheeh sanad, but they contradict other hadith? so how can they be authentic? so what is to be done???.
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
We have discussed in many of our answers the standard by which the Muslim can judge the groups, sects and parties that go against Islam. We will explain it in more detail here:
With regard to differences which you see between the Muslim nowadays, Allaah has not left the people confused and unable to distinguish the true from the false, rather Allaah has created signs by which the truth and those who are sincere may be known, and He has created clear evidence and proof for the correct path, from which no one deviates but he is doomed.
When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke of the ummah splitting into seventy-three groups, he said that they would all be in Hell apart from one, the one which follows the same path as him and his companions. This is the standard, so we have no choice but follow in the footsteps of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). It is not sufficient for a person to quote a hadeeth and say that it is saheeh, then use that as evidence to support his madhhab or his point of view according to his own understanding of that hadeeth; rather what he should do is to research whether the Sahaabah understood this hadeeth in this manner or not.
This is the criterion which divides those who really follow the truth from others. This means referring the interpretation of Islam to our righteous forebears, the Sahaabah and those who followed them in truth, for they are the best and most knowledgeable of this ummah, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said.
Anyone who examines the groups that have deviated from the Straight Path will see that they have confused the people by quoting a verse or a hadeeth out of context, so that people think that they are following the Qur’aan and Sunnah, but they cannot prove that this is the way in which the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) understood these texts.
Those who distort the attributes of Allaah, those who worship graves and circumambulate them, those who dance in dhikr, those who deny the divine will and decree (al-qadar), those who say that the Qur’aan was created, and other deviant beliefs and ways, none of them claim that his belief is the same as the belief of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Even if they claim that they have a verse or hadeeth to support them, they cannot prove that their interpretation is the same as that of those who witnessed the revelations and heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), namely the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them).
This is an important and precise standard by means of which a person can know whether what he hears and reads of beliefs and ways whose proponents say is true guidance is in fact true or false.
If you follow what the Salafi scholars tell you of Tawheed, fiqh and hadeeth, this is following true Islam, which Allaah wants for all people. The Shaytaan may come and tell you and whisper to you that this is taqleed (blind imitation) and is not permissible; undoubtedly that is the first step towards deviation from the right path. Allaah has enjoined upon the ordinary Muslim to ask the scholars and to follow their opinions and fatwas. You know that the closest of them to the right path and the truth are those who follow the path of the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in their understanding of the Qur’aan and Sunnah; they are the followers of the righteous Salaf.
The Muslim who has some measure of Islamic knowledge can find out for himself whether what he hears or reads is sound or not, by studying and comparing it with that which has been proven from the righteous salaf.
There is no reason why the one who goes against the way of the Salaf should not be right in some cases, but no way or madhhab can be sound apart from the way of the salaf or first generations of this ummah, the Sahaabah and Taabi’een and those who follow them in truth.
Everything quoted by the Salafi scholars is the view of the Sahaabah and of Sa’eed ibn al-Musayyib, al-Zuhri, Mujaahid, ‘Ata’, Maalik, Hammaad ibn Zayd, Hammaad ibn Salamah, al-Shaafa’i, Ahmad, al-Bukhaari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, and other prominent scholars.
You will find that the innovators quote that which they think supports their view, and ignore that which clearly proves that they are wrong. You will find them mentioning things in their books that goes against the Sunnah, and rejecting the Sunnah because it goes against their books, distorting that which is stated clearly in the Qur’aan, describing as da’eef that which is clearly stated in the Sunnah because it goes against their opinions and their whims and desires, and so on. For this reason they are called ahl al-ahwa’ (people of whims and desires).
With regard to Ahl al-Sunnah, they are more objective, they look at the Sunnah without any bias or preconceptions, and they give the Sunnah – if it is saheeh – precedence over everything else. They do not have any whims and desires that they follow to the extent that they reject a hadeeth or distort a verse for their sake.
In fact there is no contradiction between the texts of the revelation, rather there may appear to be a contradiction in some cases. Every field of knowledge has specialized scholars, so in the field of hadeeth there are scholars who can explain what is saheeh (sound) and what is not, and can explain what is meant and dispel confusion, and reconcile between reports which seem to contradict one another.
To sum up:
The best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and the people with the most knowledge of this guidance are the scholars of hadeeth, namely the righteous salaf. Those who follow them will be saved and those who go against them will be doomed.
So you must adhere to this path and ask Allaah for guidance and steadfastness.
With regard to the questioner saying that Ahl al-Hadeeth are the “Saudi salafis”, this restriction is not correct.
Ahl al-hadeeth are not restricted to a particular country or to certain people, rather Ahl al-hadeeth includes everyone who follows the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and understands it correctly in accordance with the understanding of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) and those who follow them in truth.
And Allaah is the Guide.
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Neely,
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