wafa...ya khud pe saza-o-jafa?

why is it that some people whom you get close to, whom you feel close to, for whatever reason…they can do whatever they want to you but u still have those feelings of closeness for them and despite trying you can’t break away? deep down in your heart you just cannot bring yourself to hate them or want bad for them? why not? when you know and everyone tells you what they have done to you is not good and its obvious they dont care for you?

wouldn’t it be easy if logic would just convince you that what they did to you was not good, they don’t deserve your good feelings, and you should start disliking them? but why can’t you?

is this human nature? blindness? foolishness? is this inevitable? is this wafa [loyalty] or khud pe saza o jafa [self punishment and oppression]?

the attachment u feel for someone is very personal and u prob couldnt even define it.. people around u dont know how intense ur feelings are..
its actually quite hard to understand if u havent been in the situation urself.

its like caring for someone unconditionally, wanting nothing in return but giving all u have

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its like caring for someone unconditionally, wanting nothing in return but giving all u have
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yah sadzz...u totally got what im saying yaar...but if someone is obviously not treating u well but u still got those feelings of loyalty...liking for them...then isnt that a lack of self respect? this notion of selfless affection, for no return...isnt that utopian? isnt that khud pe jafa? what will one gain from it but sadness? :( we r human beings, not angels rite?

but how to help this? how to make oneself realise?

no its not lack of self respect... if the person is beating u up and abusing u, then yeah i guess thats lacking self respect..

but if the person is a dear friend and need ur help and support, and u stand by them without getting anything in return.. thats called friendship..

it really depends on the situation

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no its not lack of self respect... if the person is beating u up and abusing u, then yeah i guess thats lacking self respect..

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y?

and na its not about being angels... but helping someone is a blessing from Allah in disguise..

"those who help others... Allah helps them".. i truely believe in this

no yaar...u r not helping the other person..the other person is completely indifferent to u...

but something in u is just not letting u let go of that string of attachment...u know what i mean yaar...

so u think its lack of self respect then?

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y?
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if u cant walk away from abuse then thats low self esteem.. ive heard of girls staying in relationships thinknig they are not worth anything better... thats lack of self esteem...

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no yaar...u r not helping the other person..the other person is completely indifferent to u :D :(

so u think its lack of self respect then?
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how are they different though? i mean give me a scenario

hmmm…walking away from a relationship…any relationship…is no easy job yaar…

in fact i dont even know if that’s right… :bummer:

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how are they different though? i mean give me a scenario
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hmm...sorry for being thick yar...they as in?

walking away is not right? hehe no its right if u know it aint going anywhere

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hmm...sorry for being thick yar...they as in?
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haha they as in the other person.. how is the other person indifferent to u that u should leave them?

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walking away is not right? hehe no its right if u know it aint going anywhere
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hmm...i always feel like being the first to break an emotional tie is a cruel act...?

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haha they as in the other person.. how is the other person indifferent to u that u should leave them?
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hmm...how abt...indifferent in every possible way a person can be indifferent :D :( :/

hmm its not cruel.. although at the time u feel as though u should be shot instead...in the long run its prob best (who knows.. it really depends on the situation)

sometimes we think there is no way we can live without someone.. but when the time comes.. we are so bewafa to our own feelings

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hmm...how abt...indifferent in every possible way a person can be indifferent :D
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hehe umm sometimes the most attractive thing about someone is their differences to u.. and thats the main reason why u befreind them in the first place...

hmmmmmmm…ok uve given me some food for thought…shukran

sadzz yaar me talking abt indifference…not differences… :confused:

khayr, sigh, i think i’m just looking for excuses not to sleep :smiley:

its 4:15, got nokri in the morning, can hear the birds chirping outside…better go to bed i guess :smiley:

thanks for talking to me in the thread :hug: tc n kh :slight_smile:

hahaa no worries…

secret: sometimes we think we cant leave someone, its prob out of sympathy, loyalty, love or pure selfishness… but time changes everything… and when it does even we are astonished at our own feelings :slight_smile:

nighty night!! shaba khair :hug:

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i hope so inshalah… :slight_smile:

…why do i feel bad saying that? :confused:

i just have to first convince myself that im not doing something wrong…till now i havent…maybe its gona take time…

thanks a lot sadzz :slight_smile: shaba khair :hug: or is it morning in australia? khayr, raba rakha :smiley: