Vital changes likely within 48 hours - PML (N) Leader contacts MQM & PML (Q)

It appears there is no let up of fun in Pakistani politics. Looks like even PML Nawaz are trying to woo the MQM. Why is the PML Nawaz Presidential candidate contacting the MQM as they are allegedly not popular?

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

Vital changes likely in next 48 hours: Nisar

ISLAMABAD: Significant positive changes are expected on the political scenario over the next 24 to 48 hours, said Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan on Thursday. Talking to reporters outside the Punjab House, he said PML-N’s presidential candidate Justice (r) Saeeduz Zaman Siddiqui had contacted Muttahida Qaumi Movement chief Altaf Hussain.

He said Siddiqui had also contacted Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid chief Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and had requested him for support in the presidential elections. Meanwhile, members of the National Assembly from the Federally Administered Tribal Areas called on PML-N chief Nawaz Sharif and assured him of their support for the party’s presidential candidate. To a question, Nisar Ali Khan said the PML-N was firmly committed to restoring the sacked judges and repeal the 17th Amendment. Nawaz also said his party would rejoin the coalition if the sacked judges were restored with honour and the 17th Amendment was repealed.

Re: Vital changes likely within 48 hours - PML (N) Leader contacts MQM & PML (Q)

PML-N was calling Q league murderers and Qatil league not so long ago. Both PPP and PML-N along with ANP and JUI had sworn to not talk with MQM. All of them have no principals and no shame in taking somersaults in positions, deeds and statements.

Very true, Musharraf did the same thing, calling Nawaz and Benazir as corrupt most and what not and in the end he kept making deals with them to stay in power. Power or greed of power really corrupts you and blinds you.

Yaar, when you talk about President doing deal to stay in power, it makes no sense. The way you wrote, it looks like President Musharraf had no power and these two thugs could have given him something, so he did deal. Well, deal happens when both party have something to give to each other. Anyhow, when you or anyone writes about deal what you wrote, it makes me laugh and I feel how people do propaganda full of illogical words and lot of people get misled from that propaganda. Sometime I wonder why people do so much propaganda to mislead others, as one day they would be answerable of whatever they say or do. Anyhow, since you said it, can you please explain what you mean?

Can you please explain in clear words how deal with Nawaz and BeNazir/Zardari could have kept Musharraf in power? What was the position of these two thugs when deal was made that they could have kept Musharraf in power? One (NS) getting deported whenever he use to land in Pakistan and other (BB) was scared to even land in Pakistan, is it that strength Musharraf wanted so that Musharraf stay in power?

If Musharraf wanted to stay in power, hook or crook, was it not better that he had done no deal with these crooks, should not have resigned from being Army Chief, should have not started enquiry against Iftikhat's corruption, misconduct and nepotism rather should have got him resigned or .. Kaput .. and should have done everything to get PML(Q) win the election?

Can you tell us that what President Musharraf got out of this deal? Even if there was a deal and President wanted to change the system by bringing these two crooks in the country and handing them power, then what happened? Did these two thugs who got back into power kept the deal? If they did not kept the deal then are they worthy of any respect and can anyone trust these thugs and their words?

Dude, Musharraf was under tremendous pressure from west to "establish" democracy. Everyboy knew that only Benazir and Nawaz Sharif have a possibility of being a PM as no other party is as big as them. So Musharraf had to negotiate with these two that once they come into power they would "elect" him as President so everything is covered "legally". I hope this will answer your question and you won't repeat what you said above over and over and not falsely accuse others in future.

No, what you wrote is still illogical and absurd to me.

True: Musharraf was under pressure ... not to bring democracy as democracy was already there. Pressure was to take these two thugs back, something that Musharraf could have easily declined, but he chose not to for whatever reasons.

As for Musharraf negotiating with the crooks that they would elect him as President when they come to power, that is big lie and BS, as if that was the case then Musharraf would not have got himself elected from previous parliament. Previous parliament elected him legally ... as Presidential election is nothing to do with when Parliament got elected but it is related to when Presidential term expires (4 years and 11 months after previous Presidential election), new election has to happen within a month from whatever parliament present at that time. When Presidential term expired, previous parliament was present and was running their legal term, so it was their right to elect President again.

Anyhow, you still did not answer that what deal you are talking about when you say that Musharraf did deal from two convicted fugitives that could have kept in power? Can you please explain logically, not with absurdities? I would appreciate. Thanks :)

Compare the "fairness" perception and views of the elections in 2002 and 2008, I hope that you'll know why 2002-2007 govt was not more "democratic" than current one. 2002 was more of "selection".

Musharraf was trying to avoid impeachment by making deals with Nawaz and Benazir. Someone getting re-elected by a parilament whose own term is about to expire is laughable, but then that is a separate issue.

I already said, the deal was that Mush'd have remained President for his complete term had they agreed to Mush's terms.

There is no logical reason of pardoning criminals like Asif and Nawaz, all this "reconciliation" is just a smoke screen to let the crooks come in. Who in their right mind would pardon criminal like Benazir, Asif, Nawaz? They have not only committed crimes against "indiviual" but also against Nation, what right did Mush have to pardon them?

You are free to believe what you believe as propaganda, you can continue to believe 2:00am calls were propaganda, Mush never received threat call afer 9/11 to cooperate else....

You mean, even in 2002 Musharraf selected most MNAs from PPP and MMA, and even when selection was criteria still Musharraf party (PMLQ) did not get majority of seats in Parliament, such that to make government, a number of PPP MNAs left their party to join PMLQ and even then, PMLQ Prime Minister got through with one vote :) ... It was nice selection that to get constitutional 17th amendments, government still needed cooperation from MMA, a party that was in opposition :). But then, there are always people who would complain that election was actually selection if that fits to their liking. Even today, many believe that PMLN and PPP won the election because it was selection.

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Musharraf was trying to avoid impeachment by making deals with Nawaz and Benazir. Someone getting re-elected by a parilament whose own term is about to expire is laughable, but then that is a separate issue.
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Trying to avoid impeachment? How come impeachment came during deal time that happened much before even election of parliament? And even now, as the numbers are, it is doubtful that impeachment would have got successful but President resigned, as claimed, because just process of impeachment could take around 6 months and political turmoil for that long could have completely destroyed Pakistan economy.

As for parliament electing President whose own term was near to expire is not laughable, as term of parliament is nothing to do with term of President. It is as much laughable as a parliament giving budget few months before their term. For instance, Pakistani budget comes in June and any parliament that is present in June passes the budget regardless of that parliament may expire in July or August..

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I already said, the deal was that Mush'd have remained President for his complete term had they agreed to Mush's terms.
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Well, first of all, no one could have said who would win the election and secondly, when President was already elected he has constitutional right to sack the parliament anytime and such parliament that can be dissolved anytime could not impeach a president unless President is willing to get impeach without using his own constitutional power to dissolve the parliament. So, it is absurd that such deal was needed for President to stay in office. If President wanted to than he could have dissolved the assembly constitutionally even if there was enough votes to impeach him.

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There is no logical reason of pardoning criminals like Asif and Nawaz, all this "reconciliation" is just a smoke screen to let the crooks come in. Who in their right mind would pardon criminal like Benazir, Asif, Nawaz? They have not only committed crimes against "indiviual" but also against Nation, what right did Mush have to pardon them?
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Well, there is logical reason. Logical reason is that Musharraf miscalculated the intelligence of masses. He thought that people of Pakistan after seeing the difference of government these two thugs gave and last government, would not vote for thugs. But unfortunately propaganda by liars in media and elsewhere backed by corrupt money from these thugs and other countries vested interest, illusion of retards who call themselves religious but love people like Lal Masjid terrorists, people's dependence on corrupt who get elected as MNAs, ignorance amongst masses, short memories ... etc could not change the people even after these two thugs bit them and the country twice each.

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You are free to believe what you believe as propaganda, you can continue to believe 2:00am calls were propaganda, Mush never received threat call afer 9/11 to cooperate else....
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Let see, time would tell. If you really and sincerely believe that what you wrote is not propaganda full of illogical lies then no one can tell you that it is. :)

It was the PPP not PML[n]

Re: Vital changes likely within 48 hours - PML (N) Leader contacts MQM & PML (Q)

LOL Nawaz Sharif man. I sincerely hopes this man has a heart attack and drops dead. What a douche man.

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^^ and every one else is 'farishta" and "mukhalis' and "zaheen" and know how keep their words/promises ( i wonder if they knew what does this mean).

Re: Vital changes likely within 48 hours - PML (N) Leader contacts MQM & PML (Q)

Qatil League & Kings Party is now ankhoon ka tara of NS and AZ

:rotfl:

Sorry ... posted in wrong thread.

Re: Vital changes likely within 48 hours - PML (N) Leader contacts MQM & PML (Q)

And what about 52 people and many thousands who were killed in Karachi. When MQM and PML-Q can be so nice and friendly to PPP and PML-N then why wasted so much money on police and agitations. I wish we should bill PPP and PML-N for the government and private money and valuable lives.

Re: Vital changes likely within 48 hours - PML (N) Leader contacts MQM & PML (Q)

toh ho gaye significant political changes in the next 24 ot 48 hours? ya desis are just being fashionable late?

Desi calculation

5 min = 60 min
1 min = 60/5 min
24 hours = 60/5 * 60 * 24 min
24 hours = 17280 min
24 hours = 17280/60 min
24 hours = 288 hours
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