SAS troop dead.
4 SAS injured.
Women and a 4 month old dead.
People demanding the explusion of US and British troops.
Yup. Welcome to Vietnam. Hey on the plus side they are aren’t using bio/chemical weapons to destory entire towns and cities…yet.
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I also demand the expulsion of US and Brithish troops. That will mean violence and massacres on a grand scale, but what other choice is there? Iraqis have had their shot at freedom and self governance and they have thrown it away. Give them what they want.
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A prerequisite to Freedom and Self-governance is for the foreign occupying troops to leave. Without its just a puppet government. Oh yeah you hear the latest that the US wants to set up a base in Iraq a la Germany and Japan?
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You mean Germany and Japan where there are STILL American forces after 50+ years? Germany and Japan, 2 of the most successful democracies and economies in the world?
When the US leaves (which I hope they do, trust me), there will be a vaccuum filled with blood and violence that makes today look like utopia. So we'll see about "freedom and self governance" when occupying troops leave. Violence today is more toward fellow Iraqis than US troops. Will that magically stop when US pulls out?
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You are seriously taking credit for the hard work the Germans and Japanese did and attributing it to US military bases in the country? Are you serious?
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Wrong Bhai Sahib…Depleted Uranium shells and bullets have been used all over Iraq…this material pulverizes when it explodes and mixes with the soil…stays radio active for thousands of years…
mostly affect babies and children…it is like an aftermath of Nuclear Holocast!..
And George was accusing Saddam, yet did it himself…
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You are seriously taking credit for the hard work the Germans and Japanese did and attributing it to US military bases in the country? Are you serious?
No, I was addressing your assertion that a "prerequisite to Freedom and Self-governance is for the foreign occupying troops to leave." And then you actually used the examples of Germany and Japan which totally negated that statement.
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Good freaking God. This is why I think you are a Seminole.
Read and then you can see the difference between post world war 2 germany and the Iraq. If you can’t figure it out yourself, I can write it in crayon.
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CM, I have no idea where your arrogance and self righteousness comes from on this forum. Your posts are usually simplistic, yet pretend to be something more. You are factually wrong a good bit of the time. Your posts are not that clever or witty, yet you make these condescending and insulting posts as if you are posting from some high mountain top downt to the ignorant masses. I suggst you get your ego in check (or your intenet ego or whoever posts this pompous crap), you aren't exactly the the sharpest tool in the shed.
You said "A prerequisite to Freedom and Self-governance is for the foreign occupying troops to leave", then used examples of Germany and Japan, where US has had bases and troops since they defeated them over 60 years ago, proving that assertion wrong. Period.
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How can you have self-governance if you have occupying troops in the country? If there are foriegn troops in the country working as the local police and functioning as the government how the hell is it self-governance?
You can insult me all you like. Just answer that simple question. I linked the history of Germany because Germany was run by 5 different countries with 5 different militaries. How the hell is that German Self Governance?
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It appears as if your lack of wit not only makes it impossible for you to realize (or admit) when you are wrong, but also who is the one actually hurling insults.
Now please go tell the Germans and Japanese that in spite of their elected governments, they are not self governed. Perhaps you can use one of the contacts you made at the UN while fetching doughnuts to relay the message.
Even Bermuda is a self governing British territory with the 3rd oldest continuous parliament in the world, yet some think they are a colony of the US. Go figure.
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I also demand the expulsion of US and Brithish troops. That will mean violence and massacres on a grand scale, but what other choice is there? Iraqis have had their shot at freedom and self governance and they have thrown it away. Give them what they want.
Actually, it forces all major players to negotiate with each other as none are backed by the US...right now the violence is being dragged on because of American insistence that the Iranis, or other regional players, have no influence in the region. Unlike the other regional players, who are willing to play ball with each other and reach a status quo, Americans think that is beneath them...and so doggedly persue failed policies...which of course means nothing more than an extension of violence.
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It appears as if your lack of wit not only makes it impossible for you to realize (or admit) when you are wrong, but also who is the one actually hurling insults.
Now please go tell the Germans and Japanese that in spite of their elected governments, they are not self governed. Perhaps you can use one of the contacts you made at the UN while fetching doughnuts to relay the message.
Even Bermuda is a self governing British territory with the 3rd oldest continuous parliament in the world, yet some think they are a colony of the US. Go figure.
Hey when a German delegate himself tells me he didn't consider Germany free until 1990, do I listen to him or some dumbass on the internet? Now you didn't answer the question.
I frankly am ready to admit when I am wrong. Go look up that thread on Buddhism, I have stated I was wrong about how Buddhism reached Indonesia. On the other hand, do you still defend your position of killing Muslim Children?
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Ahem: http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=181674&highlight=bermuda
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guys i dont want to sit and babysit you guys all day. play nice, you're old enough to know how to do that by now.
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Good to see that Seminole can't fight his own fights and you need to bail him out. Ravage I got 1 more day till my field mission, let me enjoy it while I can. :D