Videocon Cup in Holland

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*Originally posted by elahi: *
^Agreed, Farhat is just ok, I think he's a bit overrated.
Also, I agree, I don't see Afridi batting middle order. He'd get cought out very quickly. His best shot at sticking around and scoring a bit is if can hit the ball with the restictions in place.
The 2 obvious guys to sit are Farhat and Yunis Khan. No way Yassir goes, he's too good a batsman.
In other news, if anybody knows about the weather, please post something. No way I want to nap on Friday night and get up at 3 AM for a rain cancelled game.........
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**Here is what I think the team will be.....
Shoaib Malik & A-Razzq are true allrounder, Afridi is in the team because he is a great fielder and handy bowler. I think Bob will use Afridi as bowler.

01 Yasir Hameed
02 Salman Butt
03 YoYo
04 Shoaib Malik
05 Inzi
06 Afridi
07 Moin Khan
08 Abdul Razzq
09 Mohd Sami
10 Shoaib Akhtar
11 Shabbir**

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I am not very confident about Yasir .. he doesnt play correctly to out swinging balls... hecan survive in sub-continent but not overseas..

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*Originally posted by Zoab_Khan: *
It wouldn't make much sense to have Afridi bat late in the order instead of early on. With the fielders set in the first 15overs is where Afridi can get a lot of runs.

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I would agree with that, but maybe the thinking is that he's more likely to be able to hit the old ball than the new one. Another tactic could be to send him in when the spinners or medium pacers come on to play an Andrew Symonds type of role. Whether he's up to it is another matter. Personally I'm looking to him mainly as a bowler, any runs will be a bonus.

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Afridi to be used strategically in Holland

KARACHI: Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer intends to use the flamboyant Shahid Afridi strategically in the matches against India and Australia in the cricket tri-series beginning in Amsterdam on Saturday (tomorrow).

“Afridi knows about his role and he, along with Salman Butt, have been told clearly what their roles are going to be,” said Woolmer as his team prepared to build its reputation afresh.

Afridi has a splendid record against India and is one of the most powerful hitters in world cricket - a fact that would come handy on a small VRA ground in coming days.

**Woolmer, a master tactician, sees an important role for Afridi, given the fact India has a pace bowling attack which pitches the ball up, an advantage otherwise but which could be a handicap on short boundaries of VRA ground.

Irfan Pathan, Laxmipathy Balaji and Ajit Agarkar —all like to pitch the ball up. It could make the ball disappear faster in the trees lining the straight boundaries of the ground.**

The coach also intends to send the 12th man with a walkie-talkie on the field from now on. “It is important there is a two-way communication between the coach and the players. I intend to use the walkie-talkie through the 12th man from this tournament,” he said.

“Holland and England (ICC Trophy) tournaments are testing grounds for us. I would know better once these events are over how to assess my team. Our two opponents (in Holland series) are good sides. The two competitions will tell me, as well as the players, about their ability and what is required,” said the Englishman.

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Straight boundaries in Amsteleev are less than 60 yards!

Even I hit straight sixes with ease on 70 yard boundaries. These guys are gonna have a run feast of sixes.

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For the people on East coast, what time does the match start? And is it today or tomorrow?

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^
Do you really read threads?

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*Originally posted by funguy: *
4:30 AM EST
NO
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East coast loonies, for the last time... it starts at 4:30 AM Military Hours on the morning of Saturday, August 21st, 2004 eisveeN and the 3rd of Rajab 1457 Hijri

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*Originally posted by Captain1: *
^
Do you really read threads?

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Isn't it like really obvious, NO.
duh!

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*Originally posted by a_bad_hair_cut: *
Isn't it like really obvious, NO.
duh!
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wasn't it obvious that the time was posted above, double duh!!

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What part of NO is hard to understand? You asked me if I read the posts, I said NO, so why are you tripping now?

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Just imagine…

Walkie-Talkie banned by ICC.
And the batsman got out, just because 12th man went to Peela School and conveyed wrong message to him. Woolie found ‘sar peeting’ in the dressing room. :rotfl:

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Dutch primed for tri-series](BBC SPORT | Cricket | Dutch primed for tri-series)

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As appetizers go, the triangular one-day series which starts in Amsterdam on Saturday is probably as mouth-watering as they come.

In India, Pakistan and world champions Australia, the Netherlands will play host to three of the best-supported teams in world cricket.

The trio will be looking to fine tune ahead of next month’s Champions Trophy in England.

And with all games played at Amstelveen - with straight boundaries of 57 metres - runs will be in plentiful supply.

The round-robin event, which runs until 28 August, opens with a sell-out match between the two Asian teams.

It was through the initiative of the Dutch cricket board (KNCB) that an outpost nation such as the Netherlands is hosting such a high-profile tournament.

“The KNCB president and James Sutherland [Cricket Australia chief executive] thought of it in a meeting a while back and it grew from there,” event organiser Betty Timmer told BBC Sport.

DUTCH TRI-SERIES FIXTURES
21 Aug India v Pakistan
23 Aug Australia v India
25 Aug Pakistan v Australia
28 Aug Final

"It’s good for Dutch cricket and a good way to promote the game here.

“We might only break even, but we want to put on a good show maybe host another one in a year or two.”

KNCB President Mr René van Ierschot said: “A cricket event of this size provides an excellent opportunity to support the ambitions of Dutch cricket for the coming years.”

New no-ball regulations will be tested at the event before being used at the Champions Trophy.

The television umpire will be on hand to assist on no-ball verdicts, linking up via a two-way radio with the on-field umpires.

Ganguly will hope India can rectify their poor record in one-day finals

The tournament also provides India with another chance to shake the unwanted ‘chokers’ tag they have attracted in recent times.

Under Sourav Ganguly’s leadership, India have lost 10 of the 13 major one-day finals they have played.

Last year’s World Cup and both the TVS Cup and VB Series finals were surrendered to Australia, while Sri Lanka accounted for them in the Asia Cup decider earlier this month.

But the Indians impressively brushed Pakistan aside in the Test and one-day series played this March and April.

Pakistan will look to settle a score with Australia, having lost to Ricky Ponting’s men in a 2003 World Cup group match the last time the two teams met.

“Australia is the team to beat at international level and after the Asia Cup I hope that the team keeps the right momentum,” Pakistan skipper Inzamam-ul-Haq said.

"Both the tri-series and ICC Champions Trophy are great challenge for the young team and we are ready to do our best.

“The aim is to win both the events and we are capable of it.”

Australia will be without the services of keeper-batsman Adam Gilchrist, who is remaining in Perth to be present at the birth of his second child. Brad Haddin will deputise.

For India, both Harbhajan Singh and Ashish Nehra have been laid low by a virus and could miss the opening match.

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:hehe: Haleeb, gaarha jo hai.

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Low-hanging fruit for the hungry Aussies](http://uk.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2004/AUG/027713_VIDEOCON2004_20AUG2004.html)

In 1964, after winning the Ashes in England, Australia went over to Holland for a friendly game against the Dutch, and were rather embarrassingly beaten by three wickets. Forty years on, they travel to Holland again, to take on India and Pakistan in a triangular tournament, and once again, they are the overwhelming favourites.

No disrespect is meant to India and Pakistan by this: both sides have won more than they have lost in the last two years, but Australia have been in a league of their own. They have won 44 of the 53 one-day internationals they have played since the start of 2003, a win percentage of 85. In the same period, India have won 27 out of 49, while Pakistan have won 28 out of 48. Ricky Ponting has won 56 of the 70 games in which he has captained, a win-loss ratio of 5.6. Ganguly’s is 1.22, while Inzamam’s is 2.11.

The figures lay out the story accurately enough: this Australian side is one of the greatest one-day teams ever, a one-day version of The Invincibles, under a captain who will certainly end as one of the most successful; India and Pakistan are both strong up-and-coming sides, but not quite in the same league as Ponting’s men.

Australia have never won the Champions Trophy, and that is their first big target this season. The Videocon Cup is just low-hanging fruit, a good tournament to get the players into match practice against decent opposition. Adam Gilchrist won’t be there in Holland, and the world is still getting used to an Australian one-day side without Michael Bevan, but Australia’s bench strength is still awesome.

India come into this tournament after a defeat in the Asia Cup final, and desperately need to get some kind of momentum going before the Champions Trophy. They have 15 men in their squad here, one more than they did at the Asia Cup, which means that they do have the batting back-up that they missed there when VVS Laxman was injured. Ironically, now some of their bowlers are falling ill, but they have enough back-up for that.

The Indian selectors, led by Syed Kirmani, probably India’s greatest wicketkeeper, have made a serious effort to find a keeper-batsman who can relieve Rahul Dravid of his burden behind the stumps. But Dinesh Karthik, the man they have picked, is unlikely to play in this competition, as Ganguly has made no secret of his preference for the seven-batsmen strategy. Karthik may get a game at the NatWest Challenge a few days from now, though.

Pakistan may feel they were unfairly done in by the bonus-point system in the Asia Cup. Well, they begin this competition by playing India, whom they had beaten then, so here’s an excellent chance to prove a point. Inzamam has done a difficult job with quiet dignity since taking over as captain, and has won 20 of his 29 matches in charge. Bob Woolmer’s appointment as coach could play a big role in harnessing Pakistan’s talent, and their progress will be interesting to watch over the next few months. There are bound to be patches of outstanding play, but can they perform consistently over an extended period of time?

It isn’t yet known how the pitch at Amstelveen will behave, but expect some high-scoring matches. The straight boundaries are less than 60 yards away, and there are plenty of big hitters on both sides who will relish the opportunity to hit some sixes. Shahid Afridi, Virender Sehwag and Matthew Hayden must all be licking their lips, and the spinners won’t fancy bowling to Ganguly and Inzamam either. The cricket will be entertaining and, fingers crossed, it will be hard-fought as well.

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Will someone be kind enough to open a thread for Pakistan India match?

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^^

i'll do it..

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Go ahead, open it now.

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The weather forecast for the entire week is very tricky, with rains and thunderstorms expected. Can anyone please verify if the rest days between matches can actually be used to continue/replay matches that may otherwise be affected by rain? For instance, if pak vs ind match is rained out on august 21, can it be played on august 22 which is the rest day?

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*Originally posted by a_bad_hair_cut: *
What part of NO is hard to understand? You asked me if I read the posts, I said NO, so why are you tripping now?
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second duh is for you asking a question while not reading the threads ha ha.