Victory for Bush on his war against health & science

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While Iraq sours, Bush wins battles against health & science.
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Bush vetoes stem cell legislation

US President George Bush has struck down legislation that increases federal funding for embryonic stem cell research.

It’s the first time Mr Bush has used his veto power since taking office six-and-a-half years ago.

The President’s move flies in the face of overwhelming public support for expanded stem cell research and even puts him at odds with some senior members of his own Republican Party.

Washington Correspondent Michael Rowland reports.

MICHAEL ROWLAND: Since taking his seat in the Oval Office, President Bush has threatened to use his expansive veto powers nearly 150 times.

But he’s always backed away, preferring instead to work out his differences with the Republican-dominated Congress on issues ranging from campaign finance to the use of torture.

But for a man who wears his deeply held religious convictions on his sleeve, embryonic stem cell research is something that’s simply non-negotiable.

In vetoing the legislation Mr Bush is going against the wishes of more than two-thirds of Americans, who opinion polls show support expanded stem cell research

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2006/s1691773.htm

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Re: Victory for Bush on his war against health & science

I dont understand this veto.
actually, i dont understand veto at all..

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What's you misunderstanding?

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well, its less of i dont understand whata veto is, ut i dont understand te whole reason for this veto and the inability for it to be over ridden especially since majority of the people are in favour of it

what I cant cmprehend #1- with so much of the nation in favour for this research, why is the President, in pleasing a small subset of his supporters, stopping this from moving forward

wgat I cant comprehend #2- The criteria for overruling a veto. I am still confused ..if te majority of the nation is in support of it, and congress has been unable to counter the veto..who are they representing?

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are we talking about the president that was never elected by majority:D ?

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Great questions, I’d like to know why too.

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Re: Victory for Bush on his war against health & science

I want elected reps to represent their constituents, not special interest groups.

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A bill needs to pass with 2/3 majority to override a potential veto by the President. Yes you are right, Congress did pass the bill, but not with overwhelming support that would prevent it from being vetoed. It's not end of the road though. We need to educate the masses that this bill aims to provide the ability to use the embryos that

(a) were not created for purposes of research (many people are confused on this).

(b) will be destroyed anyway even if we don't use them for research.

If (a) and (b) were not true, many people, including myself would be against this bill. I wouldn't want to create-and-then-destroy seeds of life for purposes of research, but that's not how or why they have these lines available.

Bush might not be pandering to the ultra right wing, and might just have vetoed it based on personal convictions, but that doesn't make it right. He has the constitutional right to veto what he is against, but backers of this bill can bring it back next year again, after educating the public more about it and gaining the necessary votes in both houses to override the veto. Who knows, if Democrats do win a few more seats this November, this bill might just have the additional votes it needs without any public campaigns.

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A man of firm convictions!

Whether his convictions are well-placed or not is a side-issue. I think this is what American people like(d) about this guy in 2004. He is decisive. He will lead the nation into a pit, but all the way he will be firm in his belief that he is right and will not change course.

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a man who should be firmly convicted?

sorry, he is not in the office to spread his firm convictions, this is not a dictatorship, its a democracy and executive branch as well as legislative bhranch are there as elected reps of people and need to represent the interest of the people.

its just a matter of time, other countries are going to leapfrog us in this area of research and then we will approve it as well.

if he is so concerned about the frozen embryos, then he should not do a half ass job and just stop them from being used for research, he should then pass some executive order that all those embrys must be transfered into willing volunteers..heck why stop at volunteers why not draft women to be surrogates.

what a farce

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well he has to keep his evangelical christian conservative base happy, what with the upcoming midterm elections and all. the same base got him re-elected in 2004

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Funny thing is, Muslims scholars don't say much about these issues that surface from time to time because of new scientific advances. The most they care about is which way is Qibla when in space.

And I am not saying it's a bad thing. Keep the Mullahs and the priests away from the lab please.

"Drop your Bible/Quran and step away from the test tube please."

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