Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Allah has said in the Qur'an (52:22): "And we will aid them with fruit and meat, such as they desire." The Prophet (s.a.w.s.) reportedly said that one who does not eat meat for forty consecutive days will waste away, whereas to eat meat for forty consecutive days will harden the heart. In other words, one should moderate the intake of meat.
I've also read that the Prophet SAWS advised eating less meat, to not make your stomach a graveyard for animals. But I can only find these two references in a couple websites...not that many. If you read this, neither eating meat nor vegetarianism is being prohibited. It is advised to have a balanced diet....but advising is not the same as making something a rule/farz.
There's no sin in being a vegetarian, but you can't go around saying that meat is haram in Islam. Regardless of the diet that you follow, religion and research and common sense support eating healthy and in moderation. Alhumdolillah, Allah has created a variety of foods so that if one cannot afford a certain food....there are other options that provide them with the same or similar nutrients.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Nomica has a point here. If you stop eating something to watch your calorie intake then its fine. Becoming a vegeatrian out of fashion or because your are impressed by another religion/culture is, I think Haram. Becoming vegetarian because of animal cruelty is a bull (no pun).
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
*There's no sin in being a vegetarian, but you can't go around saying that meat is haram in Islam. * Regardless of the diet that you follow, religion and research and common sense support eating healthy and in moderation. Alhumdolillah, Allah has created a variety of foods so that if one cannot afford a certain food....there are other options that provide them with the same or similar nutrients.
i already explained my position regarding the 'type' of vegeterian being talked about...
what do u make of the verse i quoted?
P.S.....i only talked about vegetarians becoz thats the example that seemed to fit what the verse mentioned...''making things haram upon oneself"...
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
P.S.....i only talked about vegetarians becoz thats the example that seemed to fit what the verse mentioned...''making things haram upon oneself"...
No there can be other examples also. Like someone quitting his/her favorite thing in the name of self discipline or self punishment. Like "oh main murghi oos waqt tuk nahi kha'oon ga jab tuk exam main achchay number nahi aa jaatay"
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
I don’t understand what’s the big deal here? To each his own. If someone wants to abstain from consuming meat until some goal of theirs has been met…fine. So be it. As long as they’re not saying that such behavior is supported by Islam. If they want to become vegan because they think meat is gross/don’t like the taste of it, are against animal cruelty, for health reasons, or think it’s fashionable…so be it. As long as one is not going around making false claims that it’s haram to eat meat or haram to be a vegetarian. I’m not the one buying their sabzi or cooking it…so I don’t care. If it’s a close family member and that’s the choice they’ve made (without making false claims in connection to religion)…all that mattes to me is that they’re healthy and are finding some way to get their nutrients. That’s it.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Islamically it's fine, they've just opted out of doing something they're allowed to do - like being allowed to marry four (with conditions) but choosing to have just one :DIt's more about just personal preference than the rejection of religion.. If it was considered bad to be a vegetarian wouldn't it have been declared haram or even makruh??
When I was in my teens I did consider becoming vegetarian after seeing those cows getting slaughtered but I couldn't stick to it.. I also can't eat any animal that looks like a dead body when it's seeing on your plate eg a lot of fish.. It's just me :(
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
everything is to each their own…whats being discussed is whether the ‘each their own’ thing is islamically ok or not…given that verse that i referred to…
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
So...those muslims, who impose vegetarianism on themselves......and they have no health related issues...as in..doctor hasn't told them not to eat meat......
what they are doing...is it correct Islamically ??
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how many Muslim people you know who are vegetarian for such other reasons??
If they do not eat meat it is their choice.
If they start an activism against meat eaters or slaughtering of animals for human consumption then their activism will be considered a fisaad fill ard.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
and this is below is the verse of the Quran which prompted me to put forward this for discussion...
believers, do not forbid the good things that allah has made lawful to you. do not transgress; allah does not love the transgressors. **Almaida 5- Verse (87)**
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Bhai Ayat parhhlii tu us ki Shan-e-Nazzul bi par laYte ... By not eating meat doesn't mean you are making it haram on yourself ...
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
i said before too this is what i gather (could be wrong)
.........not eating meat for health/taste reason = no problem
not eating meat for animal cruelty/hindu-budhissm inspired etc = problem....
Or if in anger , you decide not to eat ' something ' for the rest of your life ... Then it is totally wrong .. That is what happened in case of the ayat you quoted .. Where Muhammad PBUH committed himself not to eat Honey for rest of his life due to wives feud ..
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Why is not eating meat to avoid animal cruelty haram??
Is practicing monogamy to avoid hurting wife 1 also haram?
Meat is an option. Let it be as such as long as the motivation does not stem from another belief system. Declaring the above haram is quite ironic considering the verses that have been posted in this thread.
The inspiration-from-hinduism argument holds weight from an Islamic pov.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Why does halal entail a limitation on your ethical reasoning? Why would the reasons you have for performing an action influence whether it is halal or haram? Lets say working in trading stocks is halal. I dont feel like doing it because I feel its unethical. Am I now compelled to do it because I think its unethical when its halal? Lets say I believe consumption of oil is bad because its harming the environment and I will only drive electric cars. Petrol based cars are halal [ofcourse! how can anyone in Iran or Saudia ban oil?]. Am I now forced to drive petrol based cars because I thought driving electric cars is better [but it was fine for me to drive electric cars if I hadnt thought that].
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
To each their own. Even if motivation to be vegetarian is from other religions, so be it. Pick and choose and learn from each other - this is the 21st century.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
health reasons ..like someone with triple vessel heart disease or someone who has hypertension as well as hyperlipidemias...or maybe someone who comes from a family with a very strong history of these diseases and although he himself is fine but he opts to be a vegetarian to reduce his chances of developing it..
These are not the medical reasons for which one has to become vegetarian.
In other words: Meat is not medically forbidden to people with these conditions.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Why is not eating meat to avoid animal cruelty haram??
Is practicing monogamy to avoid hurting wife 1 also haram?
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Those who would consider these haram may say that because these ideas really mean that someone thinks that someone is better person to judge what is cruelty than Allah, and Allah wanted wife 1 to be hurt.
Remember Ibrahim AS was given an order (All three Abrahamic relgions agree somewhat on it) and God/Allah changed Ismail to a Lamb?
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
Do you think God/Allah was cruel?
Do you think every act that God has made "halal" is by default pleasant and peaceful? (rhetorical question)
It's simple. Eating meat is allowed, not mandatory. As long as another religion is not bearing influence on a Muslim's decision to avoid meat, any justification is valid, including one of animal cruelty. We don't need round-about debates to reach every conclusion.
Re: vegetarianism by Muslims - No health related reasons??
*Do you think every act that God has made "halal" is by default pleasant and peaceful? (rhetorical question)
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It's simple. Eating meat is allowed, not mandatory. As long as another religion is not bearing influence on a Muslim's decision to avoid meat, any justification is valid, including one of animal cruelty. We don't need round-about debates to reach every conclusion.
Why did you ask a question, to a question asked?
Please answer what I asked. God/Allah ordered for slaughter of a son AS by his own father AS. Then changed it to an animal.
Is/was God/Allah cruel?
God/Allah did not place broccoli there instead did he? :)
P.S. I do like your question and can answer...a short version and a longer version.
