various 'schools' of thought in Islam

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Re: various ‘schools’ of thought in Islam

@vroom

shah ismail delvi [known as shaheed by deobandis and ahle hadis] held Kaffir beliefs, and was taken as such by some scholars. but He is imam of deobandi elders who do not recognize the kufr in his writings. like gf haddad does with deobandi elders, they do with shah ismail but the link between shah ismail and deoband is stronger.
Imam Ahmad Raza Khan recognized shah ismail’s kufr but did not pass the fatwa of kufr upon him because it was rumored [not confirmed but rumored] that shah ismail had made tauba at the time of death

shah ismails writing are to be taken as writings of kufr, talib ur rehman [ahle hadis] confirmed this and would not accept him as a ahle hadis imam (deobandis are built upon accepting him). He is actually an imam to both ahle hadis and deobandis

gf haddad defends both deobandi elders. This abdul deoband is also a liar and a confused liar from what i quoted from this in the other thread. I’ll repost his remark here:

*“..At the same time, unfortunately for the Umma in our day, certain grave errors have crept into Deobandi beliefs and practices themselves, such as the verbatim attribution to Allah Almighty of imkane-kadhib i.e. the “ability to lie” (may He be exalted beyond what they describe!) and similarly ugly, innovated expressions and concepts that are rightly deemed as tantamount to disparaging the Holy Prophet Muhammad, upon him blessings and peace – Allah is our refuge from perdition. Most if not all of these errors originate from the pen of Shah Ismail al-Dihlawi (1193-1246/1779-1830)…”

*I wish to point out ‘‘crept into’’ is not applicable, grave errors it is but lets see an honest application of it instead of lying to say ‘‘crept in’’. THEY DID NOT CREEP IN people are demanding they be ridden now after its introduction by early deobandis!!! So gf haddad is not honest, is more of a propaganda-nist who is trying to defend deobandis

The above attribute of lying of gf haddad is also applicable on the second part of his paragraph: *.“..and similarly ugly, innovated expressions and concepts that are rightly deemed as tantamount to disparaging the Holy Prophet Muhammad, upon him blessings and peace – Allah is our refuge from perdition. Most if not all of these errors originate from the pen of Shah Ismail al-Dihlawi (1193-1246/1779-1830)…”

*errors which originate from shah ismail but also exist in deobandi elders who are not known to have made tauba! So he haddad criticizes shah ismail but not deobandi elders. This is nifaaq upon nifaaq. and he confirms the deobandis have been ‘‘righly deemed’’ to have had ugly, innovated expressions. So ugly innovators and yet he fails to condemn them. This, gf haddad, my friends is a Munafiq

From memory i read from him once, he writes on lots of online portals, that he cannot make takfir of deobandi elders because his uloom goes through one of them. I say ok pal, Islam will wait with concern for your uloom

Elsewhere he writes:

*“..What I know about the scholars of India listed above and below is that they are pure Sunnis…”

*liar liar

Peace Sidi vroom

Please leave this bad mouthing of scholars …

Sh. GF Haddad is a well decorated scholar … He has over 150 ijazas … how many do you have? Or the people who you have been quoting?

Why is it that my Shaykh and my wife’s Shaykh (hareem01) who you say are both from Ahl-us-Sunnah yet you can say this about this individual? Both my wife’s Shaykh and my Shaykh are GF Haddad’s teachers …

Below I have pasted a piece about Shaykh GF Haddad from the site that you also quote from - SeekersGuidance and I also study from them too …

You claim to be respecting the and honouring the scholars but all I see is reduction and separation at every turn …

It was in this same year that he met his teacher Mawlana Shaykh Nazim al-Haqqani of Cyprus, from whom he took the Naqshbandi tariqah. Shortly thereafter, he met Shaykh Hisham Kabbani, who guided him to begin his path in seeking sacred knowledge.
He went on to studyfor about a decade in Damascus, under many esteemed scholars such as Shaykh Nur Al Din Itr, Shaykh Adib Kallas, Shaykh Muhammad Al-Yaqubi, Shaykh Abd Al-Hadi Kharsa, Dr Samer Al-Nass and Dr. Muhammad Muti Al-Hafiz.
He is now an accomplished scholar, religious leader, author and Arabic translator and was listed amongst the 500 Most Influential Muslims In The World. He holds ijazas from over 150 scholars across the Muslim world.

SeekersGuidance - Shaykh Dr. Gibril Fouad Haddad